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iPad OS 4.2 'Orientation Lock' to 'Mute Switch' Change Permanent
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The o switch brigade thinks you are a liar and don't have an iPad
I've had mine for some time now as well iPhone's and Mac's, love Apple products!
I'm pretty sure they are doing it to keep it in line with the iPhone. It makes more sense coming from an iphone to an ipad and the switch muting everything since that is what it does on the iphone. They just want to make it streamlined. Plus wasn't it originally supposed to be a mute switch in the first place?
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Apple is thinking ahead. I'll bet any amount that FaceTime is coming to the next iPad.
theRebel said:
Apple is thinking ahead. I'll bet any amount that FaceTime is coming to the next iPad.
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Do you not think that a FaceTime camera will be a major selling point of the next iPad?
Corndog5595 said:
Do you not think that a FaceTime camera will be a major selling point of the next iPad?
Before anything else, those of us who want to keep it as it is (the vast majority) could easily make do with an OPTION to set it the way WE like it.
Speed is necessary for something that keeps ringing* as in a phone, the ipad notifications will only beep once, and then you have as much time as you want to switch it off. The extra two secs won't be problem, you 've already cause a disruption.
(*Even then I find it quicker to just keep the volume down till it goes off on my iphone than the mute button, I honestly do, and I just realized this now...)
Yeah, you got it, we want to look at websites upside down, that's it, that's exactly it....
Pinky, if you are a godess you might want to try to send him a photo.
It's our last resort...
Speed is necessary for something that keeps ringing* as in a phone, the ipad notifications will only beep once, and then you have as much time as you want to switch it off. The extra two secs won't be problem, you 've already cause a disruption.
(*Even then I find it quicker to just keep the volume down till it goes off on my iphone than the mute button, I honestly do, and I just realized this now...)
Yeah, you got it, we want to look at websites upside down, that's it, that's exactly it....
Pinky, if you are a godess you might want to try to send him a photo.
It's our last resort...
You are right it doesn't (of course you conveniently missed all my other points...), well they should make the volume work from the lock screen too. Easy and end of story.
Btw if you go to a meeting turn the volume down before hand? What's the big deal?
What you describe is a falacy, the ipad is not going to ring and ring so you want as fast as possible to turn it off like a phone.
Here's your scenario, you get a notification in a meeting, ipad beeps once,
*beep*
your scenario:
oh I need a dedicated switch to stop that (no other beep sound come of course, it's not a phone to keep ringing), I can't use the volume button I have to unlock first, ok great (nothing is ringing as you think all that), apple has now a dedicated mute, I press it cool (nothing still keeps ringing)...a, ok.
my scenario (even without the volume working from the lock screen), *beep*, click, swipe to unlock, hold the volume, end of story.
Now let's see the lock button.
You pick up the ipad as a young professional for presentation, oh you 've forgot to lock it and it switches orientation when you tilt it one way to show a client sitting at an angle or when you hand it over to someone. Flick switch end of story.
your scenario, ok sorry for that, let me just double click here, swipe once, let me touch this button, click on the screen again, ah hear we are...after ten minutes...let me also show you a portrait drawing of this design, let me just double click, oh I am anxious about the presentation and I single clicked, let's go back, now I ll double click, swipe, unlock it, now let me turn it, oh let first touch it to go out of the screen, oh wait but I want to lock it too in that orientation let's double click bak swipe, lock it.......
I didn't address every point because I didn't want to nitpick at every single point. The majority of your points were addressed. If you wanted me to go more in depth, I'd begin with the difference between too and two and the spelling and definition of the word fallacy.
Yes, I try very hard to be prepared and turn it puff before a meeting. However, it's not the only situation where a mute switch would be useful. Furthermore, it is awfully convenient to be able to flick a switch before the meeting to mute it, which will be frequently used.
Finally. You simply will never need to use the o lock from sleep. Whereas there will be situations that you will need to mute it; or, at the very least , it would be more convenient
Correct, you know it's coming they just released it for our macs in beta and it works great! Next iPad will have FaceTime, maybe they'll release a add on camera for present iPads? But it's coming!
I do as well. But it's not to say I've never forgotten. It's a human mistake. It is rare to find someone who has never forgotten.
Beyond that, it's not the only situation applicable. It was a single example
I see both side to the argument. Sad that I am losing the orientation lock switch.
However, I am a huge fan of constancy.
However, I am a huge fan of constancy.
You are absolutely right. That's why they are doing it. Consistency. They chose a poor way to implement something on one device to make it consistent with the other.
What they don't understand, thus far (because as soon as they get the feedback they are going to switch it back...) is that one device is different than the other and in many cases they are already by design NOT consistent:
a. one is a phone the other is a tablet computer
b. one's horizontal home screen doesn't switch to vertical, and most screens don't turn either so in your iphone you are not constantly thinking oh I hope it doesn't turn around just cause I tilted it a bit because in most screens it doesn't, but the ipad does.
c. one has a large screen that is more of nuisance the accidental turn, the other doesn't.
They are similar looking devices but because of different size and functionality it's stupid to keep consistency in the lock switch. By the same token why don't they have the home screen of the iphone switch to the horizontal when you turn it? The ipad does, why not the iphone? Because it wouldn't be useful in a small screen to do so, and the dock wouldn't be able to expand or contract as much based on size and aspect ratio. A, huh!! So different devices mean different implementations of similar functions, a turn to the horizontal of the home screen.... a mute switch on one device and an orientation one on another....bingo!!!
Sorry, but you still have it wrong.
The "young workforce" that you describe is not even close to being the best market for potential growth. You have not been paying attention to the demographics of the people buying iPads.
Also many members of the "young workforce" who have adopted electronic devices like the iPad are not tech savvy enough to know how to use more than 5% of their functionality. I am constantly amazed by the number of iPhone owners who do not even know how to record a movie with it. You can totally forget about them knowing how to bring up multitasking.
Because its SOO hard to use the volume buttons to turn the device volume down.
I hate apple more and more each year.
I hate apple more and more each year.
More or less these are the people that purchase products as a social statement, not for actually using the device.
Bingo. Whoever decided to change this obviously does not use an iPad on even a semi-regular basis. This change is asinine!!
Before you make claims about the vast majority and what they like, at least start something with the scientific veracity of a macrumors poll
Facetime alerts on the iPhone keep ringing. It's likely they will on the iPad. Beyond that, it's simply easier to conceal flipping a switch rather than waking a device. Or, if you're the prepared type, it's simply quicker and more convenient.
As for your parenthetical statement, your grammar makes it nearly incomprehensible. I apologize for not addressing your point; I couldn't be certain of what you were trying to say.
But yes. An option would be nice from a user standpoint
Because its SOO hard to use the volume buttons to turn the device volume down.
I hate apple more and more each year.
Nope. Merely impossible to do from a sleeping state
That's why there's Cydia, although it's irritating that they are going to force us to resort to hacking our devices to get them to work as advertised
Meh, not a huge deal. This restores standard iOS functionality to the iPad. Currently, there's no way for users to set the mute-alert state of an iPad. Apps (should) check that state to decide how and when to play sounds. The iOS operating system differentiates alert sounds that occur without user interaction, from those that do. (Playing Music, for example.)
Just holding the volume button isn't the same.
I will miss the orientation switch, but I see why they did this.
(Yeah, I have an iPad, and yeah, I use the orientation switch at least a couple times a day.)
Just holding the volume button isn't the same.
I will miss the orientation switch, but I see why they did this.
(Yeah, I have an iPad, and yeah, I use the orientation switch at least a couple times a day.)
I simply do not think it's wrong. Quite simply, the young workforce I describe will provide more long term sales compared to the "old people" in question. I apologize for my bluntness, but they will die while the previous group is still buying products. There's no growth to be had in the tech industry by targeting older demographics. Simple business
So based on that hypothetical, you think it is reasonable to take away functionality for current iPad owners? A switch that most current iPad users utilize every day suddenly becomes a switch to turn off alerts that they do not receive. I guarantee that iPad users are going to flood support lines asking why their iPad's orientation switch broke after the 4.2 update.
BTW, although I personally would like to have an iPad with a camera and FaceTime, I sincerely hope that Apple is not so stupid as to ever stop making iPads without cameras.
That's not possible for most around here ...............
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cheers
JohnG
I wouldn't say idiotic, but other than that you hit the nail on the head. It will be an inconvenient change borne by the early adopters
And, lest anyone pounce on that, the iPad had early adopters beware all over it when it didn't come with a camera