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Bay the any for those who want to improve their screen quality to at least gain some benefit in gamut and readability on the air 2, set night shift to manual mode and just shift the slider a bit less than a quarter in. While it's not as nice as true ton it's certainly an improvement over the food blue typical screen color.

I'm someone who calibrates his tv so the blue of the Apple screen has always driven me nuts. As soon as night shift was announced I was thrilled just to be able to get some of the blue out.

One final thought. The pro is a fair bit faster at web surfing - so if you are someone on your device all day it may have an impact on productivity. Even compared to my air 2 the pro screams on web pages.

I'm leaning towards a return. And exchange for the 12.9". I think for my needs I may find greater benefit in that device. However owning a surface pro 3 and iPad Air 2 it's debatable.

Let's also not forget there are a couple VERY good active stylii for under $100. A lot cheaper than upgrading for the pencil.
 
One final thought. The pro is a fair bit faster at web surfing - so if you are someone on your device all day it may have an impact on productivity. Even compared to my air 2 the pro screams on web pages.
That's actually not so good to hear. :( I was planning on getting a refurb 64GB or 128GB Air 2 LTE as backup iPad instead of getting another Pro 9.7.
 
That's actually not so good to hear. :( I was planning on getting a refurb 64GB or 128GB Air 2 LTE as backup iPad instead of getting another Pro 9.7.
I can post a quick side by side if you can't find one. I'm sure YouTube shows it. To me the air feels significantly faster than every other iPad. And the pro feels that much faster than the air. Probably the same jump from air to air 2 minimum. Maybe I'm overly sensitive.

The air 2 is not slow by any stretch.
 
I can post a quick side by side if you can't find one. I'm sure YouTube shows it. To me the air feels significantly faster than every other iPad. And the pro feels that much faster than the air. Probably the same jump from air to air 2 minimum. Maybe I'm overly sensitive.

The air 2 is not slow by any stretch.
Unfortunately, I didn't see any YouTube videos actually comparing web browsing on the Air 2 and Pro 9.7. There's plenty showing GeekBench and graphics benchmarks but not real-world performance.

Hmm, can you try the following:
http://theflashgifs.tumblr.com/

Those are the types of pages that my iPad Air is kinda struggling with (but the Pro 9.7 handles beautifully). Thanks!
 
sure, if you give me until later tonight or tomorrow i will load that page and video it for you

if you want to post a couple more i'll make a samples bookmark folder
 
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Just FYI...I ordered the Smart Keyboard on Saturday from AT&T and it shipped yesterday...scheduled to get it tomorrow! Same thing with the Pencil except I'll get it Thursday. They actually have the Keyboard in stock and its shipping fast! If you're in the market, great way to get it quick and at a 20% discount.

Yeah, I ordered it already along with the USB3 camera connector + USB3-C cable. It's usually extremely difficult to get a discount on Apple accessories, and 20% is quite substantial for the Pencil + Smart Keyboard.
 
I went from iPad 4 it iPP 12.9, no remorse at all. It's a pretty good upgrade. iPad 4 was my first iPad, and it still works fine and I am keeping it, but the bigger screen and speed of the new one is much better. For me, there is no point in upgrading more often than every 2-3 years, as I just use it for Internet, email, occasional videos, occasional games, and general time wasting. I don't use it for work or anything remotely productive :)
 
If you have an Air 2, I think the 9.7 pro is not worth it. However, the 12.9 pro worth every penny. The real reason to upgrade an ipad if you have an air 2 is for a bigger screan and 4GB of ram.
 
That's actually not so good to hear. :( I was planning on getting a refurb 64GB or 128GB Air 2 LTE as backup iPad instead of getting another Pro 9.7.

The Pro uses a high speed dual core procesor instead of the slower 3-core processor in the Air 2. It is faster in every task, but it is especially faster in single-threaded tasks, like web page rendering.
 
The Pro uses a high speed dual core procesor instead of the slower 3-core processor in the Air 2. It is faster in every task, but it is especially faster in single-threaded tasks, like web page rendering.
Yes, I know for tasks that aren't/can't be optimized for multi-core, the Pro 9.7 is on average twice as fast. My concern is mostly how noticeable is the difference and whether the Air 2 is fast enough for my usage. My previous iPad was the first gen Air and aside from crashing on particularly animated gif-heavy pages, rendering can be quite slow (like 2-3 seconds per frame). Normally, I would've just used my current Air as my backup iPad but aside from having too little storage (only 16GB), it's also gotten really annoying when browsing tumblr.
 
Yes, I know for tasks that aren't/can't be optimized for multi-core, the Pro 9.7 is on average twice as fast. My concern is mostly how noticeable is the difference and whether the Air 2 is fast enough for my usage. My previous iPad was the first gen Air and aside from crashing on particularly animated gif-heavy pages, rendering can be quite slow (like 2-3 seconds per frame). Normally, I would've just used my current Air as my backup iPad but aside from having too little storage (only 16GB), it's also gotten really annoying when browsing tumblr.

The Air 2 is fast enough for any current task. The Pro will last longer, but it also costs a whopping 50% more.

In other words, by getting the Air 2 and saving the extra $200 you would have spent on the Pro, you're already half way towards financing another $400 tablet purchase in 3 years.
 
The Air 2 is fast enough for any current task. The Pro will last longer, but it also costs a whopping 50% more.

In other words, by getting the Air 2 and saving the extra $200 you would have spent on the Pro, you're already half way towards financing another $400 tablet purchase in 3 years.
Sure the Air 2 is fast enough to run any iOS app. General web browsing with badly coded JavaScript or tons of animated GIFs? Maybe, maybe not. I think I'd rather get confirmation from h00ligan's video before I buy. I'm looking at the 64GB/128GB LTE model so it's more like $880 for Pro 9.7 and $570-660 for Air 2 so not really 50%. I can decide for myself whether the Pro is worth the extra $220-310 to me.
 
Well I've owned a 9.7" Ipad 2 since day one and alsoa Ipad mini2. After an accident with the Ipad 2 which left it with a completely spider webbed screen I went to the Apple store and bought a Gold Ipad Pro 9.7" and couldn't be happier. Graphics and speed are top notch and while I only use a tablet for browsing the web and media consumption there are certain situations where I'll find the upgraded camera handy and at some point I'll buy the Apple Pencil. My thought with buying the Pro over the Air 2 came down to the faster CPU which I believe will mean it should handle future IOS upgrades and newer apps for a longer time which should justify the difference in price. No Regrets at all, I'd buy it again in a second. Apple without a doubt builds the best tablets, period.
 

Just tried loading some of these pages on my Air2 and Pro 12.9 side by side. Sorry I don't have the means to make a video. But the difference in loading time is about a few seconds. Or in other words, if I had to read those pages on the Air2, I don't think I'll find the wait annoying. It's what I expect when loading graphics heavy pages.
 
While I have no regrets, I am surprised at how incremental the upgrade feels in comparison to the 2yr old Air2.


I am finding that the changes in the general user experience from the Air2 to Pro9.7 to be minimal.

It's a good upgrade but it does feel like this is the "S" model and next gen will be the Big update that will make the iPad impressive again.
 
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It's a good upgrade but it does feel like this is the "S" model

If you don't use the Pencil, then yes, it is an incremental update. But the Air2 was an "S" type update to the Air1, so.... The "tick tock" update model doesn't exactly hold up with the iPads. I think it's going to be that each gen is an incremental update over the previous one, and there won't be any one big update ever.
 
The iPad Pro is the best thing technologically to happen to me for some time. The fact I can read notes and documents at work in full screen with out printing out for meetings is one thing, but the fact I can carry all the 5 folders from my evening class notes is quite another. Not even mentioning the pen where I can write comments and highlight using PDF expert and scan single documents into pdf with the camera. The screen is terrific, it's better then the laptop, at last a new paradigm ..
 
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Short of getting rid of bezels, what design change would you suggest? The iPad is already minimalist as it is. I think changes to the iPad would be more software related than hardware at this point.

iPhone 6 rounded edges. Those chamfered edges are still ding/dent-magnets. I returned a pro recently due to a dent in the chamfered edge out of the box.
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The iPad Pro is the best thing technologically to happen to me for some time. The fact I can read notes and documents at work in full screen with out printing out for meetings is one thing, but the fact I can carry all the 5 folders from my evening class notes is quite another. Not even mentioning the pen where I can write comments and highlight using PDF expert and scan single documents into pdf with the camera. The screen is terrific, it's better then the laptop, at last a new paradigm ..

9" or 12" ?
 
Just tried loading some of these pages on my Air2 and Pro 12.9 side by side. Sorry I don't have the means to make a video. But the difference in loading time is about a few seconds. Or in other words, if I had to read those pages on the Air2, I don't think I'll find the wait annoying. It's what I expect when loading graphics heavy pages.
Question, once the gifs were loaded, were they playing normally/smoothly? Because one big annoyance I have with the Air 1 is when there are a *lot* of animated gifs on one page, it becomes like a slideshow. The iPad 4 is even worse and with the iPad 3, I pretty much just get stills. Thanks!
 
I upgraded from an Air 2 to the iPad Pro 9.4" as well, and yeah - I had a tough time pulling the trigger on this one because I just wasn't sure it was worth all the money. (I'm someone who has owned pretty much every version of the iPad as it was released, and was always able to sell the previous model for enough money to make the upgrade relatively inexpensive and easy to justify.)

This time around, I'm finding it's a bigger economic hit to move up though, because Apple dropped the price of the Air 2 by $100 *and* made the iPad Pro significantly more expensive to buy and equip with the desired accessories. EG. I knew I wanted Apple's smart keyboard cover for it, as I bought a Belkin and a Logitech keyboard case in the past for previous iPads I've owned. But not only are you out the $149 for it (which seems fair), but Apple hits you up for $69 more for that silicone back cover that, IMO, should be included with the keyboard cover as the "bottom half of it".

Ultimately? I'm sticking with the iPad Pro upgrade. I spent the extra $'s to get the 256GB version, and that alone helps justify the cost of upgrading for me. (I can't get an Air 2 configured with 256GB of storage.) The 256GB is great for me because I have a big music collection that just about fills all the space in a 128GB device. Now I can finally just sync the whole thing to my iPad and not care, because I've still got 128GB more for everything else I ever want to do on it!

So no "buyer's remorse" here, as much as it being a "grit my teeth and pay up, to move up" decision this time around.


I upgraded from an Air 2, and I think it was worth it.

The speakers on the iPad Pro are much nicer. And markedly less vibration from the Air 2, as well.

Much as I've despised people in the past using their iPad as a camera, I've actually wound up using it as one over the weekend, and can see why people do it. Though I think my iPhone is still gonna be my primary camera. :)

Then there's Band 12 LTE support, important for me because I'm on T-Mobile.

That's even before the pencil and keyboard support, both of which I'm really liking.
 
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Question, once the gifs were loaded, were they playing normally/smoothly? Because one big annoyance I have with the Air 1 is when there are a *lot* of animated gifs on one page, it becomes like a slideshow. The iPad 4 is even worse and with the iPad 3, I pretty much just get stills. Thanks!

Watching all those gifs made me dizzy! Does that mean they were playing at normal speed? ;)

Or to put it another way, I didn't notice any difference between my iPad Pro and Air2 in how the gifs played.
 
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