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iPad Pro First Impressions: Surprisingly Light, But Screen Size May Be Unnecessary for Most

This doesn't make much sense to me unless you're an artist and really want an awesome drawing tablet. It costs the same as a MacBook and isn't an actual computer, so if you need a productivity machine and you don't need to draw it's a waste of money. If you just want a tablet, get the regular Air.
 
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Eweie said:
This is a wet dream for artist. I assume wacom is ******** bricks right now. now all we need is zbrush for iOS. will definitely get one when it comes out.
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Agreed, and adding VZW to Wacom dropping a dookie today. I am considering a 5k iMac to replace my late-2013 rMBP and taking one of these new iPads on the road.

I can see this iPad combined with AstroPad to go a long way to being a replacement Cintiq - if one thinks of this iPad replacing a heavy Cintiq - which costs $1k more for the non-touch version - and you'd need a grove of current bushes for the power brick(!) to power the Cintiq. Yep, that thud I heard in the Pearl District late this morning was Wacom's management hitting the floor (we're both in Portland).

As for VZW, I'm going for the cellular 128GB model, and I'm going to put one of my UL data SIMs in that bad boy. No need to tether to my rMBP any longer for a decent picture!!!
 
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I think it makes sense for this to run IOS. A full version of OSX would surely add thickness and weight due to larger battery and cooling requirements. IOS obviously has the ability to run full apps but they just need to be customised for non cursor interaction.

Actually, does the iPad Pro keyboard utilise the two finger gesture on the soft keyboard? If so, that could surely be tweaked for apps to cycle through options and commands. No mouse required.
 
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usarioclave said:
The use case for this is simple: put it in an articulating mount and use it instead of a windows PC for CSR stuff. The cost savings will be due to the lack of infrastructure needed to support these things.

IBM is going to sell millions of these things.
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Yup, and absolutely. I'll go in with Parallels will be selling PD 11 Pro subscriptions like hotcakes since it has Parallels Access for remote work included with that subscription.
 
sniffies said:
This thing is a flop.

RIP iPad Pro.
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I dunno. This is what a lot of people have been waiting for; like those that don't want all that comes with OS X on a laptop but where an iPad is just a bit too constrained. My father has been basically wanting exactly what they announced. He has an iPad but has stated he wished it could do more, like add a great stylus and offer multiple apps on screen at once. He has a new iMac but isn't really happy with either.
 
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Looks great, but too large for me.

I use my iPad at work about 70% of the time. Not always a laptop replacement, but getting there.

I like the advances in the iPad Pro, and hope they come to the Air in the next iteration—four speakers, new charging port, apple keyboard, apple pencil compatible.

What I hope we see in the Air 3 that is NOT in the Pro is 3D touch from the new iPhone. That will be killer in productivity apps.
 
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heeloliver said:
Only downside in my eyes is no file system. So I couldn't load files off a flash drive, edit them in illustrator, and save them again... :(
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Agreed. A simple and coherent file system is one of the last "fixes" iOS needs to make the iPad a laptop replacement. The over-sandboxing and kludgy and inconsistent interface to manage files is a huge hinderance—especially in an age when we use multiple cloud providers for our files.
 
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Simply no reason to have a large iPad with a crippled mobile OS designed primarily for consumption. The Surface Pro 3 has a full OS with excellent peripheral support. Windows 10 is excellent and in many ways superior than anything Apple can offer. When I sit in my recliner and catch up on the latest news and shoot off a couple of personal emails, then it is my iPad Air. The weight and design is excellent. When I want to do anything beyond consumption, it is my Surface Pro 3. When I want a full photo editing experience with Lightroom and Photoshop, it is my Surface. Run excel with pivot tables and data analysis, it is my surface. Preparing division wide communications and newsletters it is my surface. At the end of the day, the iPad is only excellent for being lightweight and the app ecosystem geared primarily for consumption. Even running office on my iPad is a vastly crippled experience. For a regular old home user, iPad wins. Doing anything substantial, surface pro 3 or a MacBook. This will have some success because it is Apple. But I don't see this having much impact in the Enterprise. Surface and Windows 10 is significantly better with a lower cost.
 
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jase1125 said:
Simply no reason to have a large iPad with a crippled mobile OS designed primarily for consumption. The Surface Pro 3 has a full OS with excellent peripheral support. Windows 10 is excellent and in many ways superior than anything Apple can offer. When I sit in my recliner and catch up on the latest news and shoot off a couple of personal emails, then it is my iPad Air. The weight and design is excellent. When I want to do anything beyond consumption, it is my Surface Pro 3. When I want a full photo editing experience with Lightroom and Photoshop, it is my Surface. Run excel with pivot tables and data analysis, it is my surface. Preparing division wide communications and newsletters it is my surface. At the end of the day, the iPad is only excellent for being lightweight and the app ecosystem geared primarily for consumption. Even running office on my iPad is a vastly crippled experience. For a regular old home user, iPad wins. Doing anything substantial, surface pro 3 or a MacBook. This will have some success because it is Apple. But I don't see this having much impact in the Enterprise. Surface and Windows 10 is significantly better with a lower cost.
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But what you have then is a redundant tablet function of your surface. This iPad Pro does some things better than a surface. For artistic creativity, this is better than the iPad Air and the Surface. It has the combination of lightness and aspect ratio that make it a different use case to the Surface which is undoubtedly a good laptop but a rubbish tablet.
 
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Sinjun said:
This doesn't make much sense to me unless you're an artist and really want an awesome drawing tablet. It costs the same as a MacBook and isn't an actual computer, so if you need a productivity machine and you don't need to draw it's a waste of money. If you just want a tablet, get the regular Air.
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What the hell does productivity machine even mean? Some people are claiming Google's cloud apps as productivity apps and that can be done by cheap tablets. Windows advantage for "productivity" is pretty slight and getting slighter by the minute (and I'm using Windows 10 right now so I should know).

Some people are calling the new MacBook air also a waste of money (and obsessing over the one port...), seems nobody's ever happy except those that actually need and want those products. For them, it's just perfect.
 
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Hardly. The surface pro 3 is an excellent tablet. I use it often for Photoshop and Lightroom in tablet form. I use clipboard on it often. The only limiting issue with the surface pro 3 is really weight (reading a book for example is a better experience). The screen design and dimensions are excellent. Ultimately if I could only have one, it would be the Surface Pro 3. Both the iPad and the surface have compromises, but the surface enables me to do more with fewer compromises. Take the phone for example, I cannot see anything that Microsoft could do that would get me to leave my iPhone. As a consumption device with its ecosystem it is superior.
 
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jase1125 said:
Simply no reason to have a large iPad with a crippled mobile OS designed primarily for consumption. The Surface Pro 3 has a full OS with excellent peripheral support. Windows 10 is excellent and in many ways superior than anything Apple can offer. When I sit in my recliner and catch up on the latest news and shoot off a couple of personal emails, then it is my iPad Air. The weight and design is excellent. When I want to do anything beyond consumption, it is my Surface Pro 3. When I want a full photo editing experience with Lightroom and Photoshop, it is my Surface. Run excel with pivot tables and data analysis, it is my surface. Preparing division wide communications and newsletters it is my surface. At the end of the day, the iPad is only excellent for being lightweight and the app ecosystem geared primarily for consumption. Even running office on my iPad is a vastly crippled experience. For a regular old home user, iPad wins. Doing anything substantial, surface pro 3 or a MacBook. This will have some success because it is Apple. But I don't see this having much impact in the Enterprise. Surface and Windows 10 is significantly better with a lower cost.
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You do know IBM and Cisco are all in with Apple... I think they know a bit more about the enterprise than you do. Apple tablets are already all over the enterprise and this is not changing. In fact, it's the consumer side of tablet sales that'S weakening, not the enterprise side. This explains the Ipad Pro tablet the most.
 
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Keirasplace said:
What the hell does productivity machine even mean? Some people are claiming Google's cloud apps as productivity apps and that can be done by cheap tablets. Windows advantage for "productivity" is pretty slight and getting slighter by the minute (and I'm using Windows 10 right now so I should know).

Some people are calling the new MacBook air also a waste of money (and obsessing over the one port...), seems nobody's ever happy except those that actually need and want those products. For them, it's just perfect.
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Very true. A machine that runs business applications such as MS Office are considered productivity devices and yet Chrome books are replacing these in many work places. A Chrome book is more dumb than a cheap Android phone. It certainly can't run Adobe Photoshop.
 
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AleXXXa said:
LOL. It's called Pro but it still runs iOS. It doesn't even have a file system. Nothing pro about that.
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Your thinking is stuck in the early 2000s. 40% of PCs are basically dumb client/server terminals - except they're less secure than actual dumb terminals, because they run Windows.

The iPad Pro removes security as an issue when it comes to managing dumb infrastructure. That's a huge win, especially given the shifting winds of liability.
 
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