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iPad Pro First Impressions: Surprisingly Light, But Screen Size May Be Unnecessary for Most
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Your imagination is limited. This will be wonderful for taking notes in class with the Apple Pencil. Productivity is easily achieved on a tablet with this screen size using a pencil or keyboard.
Meh. Not my cup of tea. I really need to use it without touch screen if I am using a keyboard... Which means a mouse. I find it awkward to be typing, the have to reach up to the screen to do the "mouse stuff"
I visit lots of companies and I have never seen a chromebook. Education, yes but not enterprises.
But that's probably because you have no use case for this other type of device, the iPad Pro. It's obviously not designed to be simply a Surface competitor, which is more of a MacBook/Pro competitor. That battle is more about preference of OS.
The aspect ratio thing I don't get. The difference between the 3:2 of the SP3 and the 4:3 of the iPP are pretty slight.
I agree, completely ridiculous. It's obvious Apple has absolutely no idea why the tablet market keeps shrinking.
What Apple actually should have done is get people to work on iOS for the iPad and create a new, heavily adapted version of iOS that works the the iPad Pro.
Instead, we get the same ridiculous number of icons per screen, with useless, wasted empty space between them. It will be a riot to see folders with only 3x3 icons in a 12,9 inches screen.
It's only missing a decent iOS or the ability to have even half decent productivity apps. That kind of breaks it as a productivity tool.
I think this is actually an iPad Noob. No file management system, ridiculously using the same iOS as the iPhone but with four times as much empty space, the same limitations that make the current iPad incredibly underwhelming as a productivity tool...
Feels like the husband who catches his wife cheating him on the sofa, and "solves" the issue the next day by selling the sofa. The iPad is a very mediocre work tool, but the solution was not to just increase screen size.
Only downside in my eyes is no file system. So I couldn't load files off a flash drive, edit them in illustrator, and save them again...
Dropbox.
When did I say they don't exist? I never said anything like that so stop with the Snide remarks. I simply stated I haven't seen them which is accurate. I have seen them in schools. I'm sure there are some companies that use them - likely SMBs.
4:3 is better for reading, photo editing and, as will be a huge use case for the iPad Pro, drawing. It's more to do with what's easier on the eye for these uses. The Surface Pro is better for movies as there is less letter boxing.
iPad outsells Mac 2/1. Apple should close up shop and give up tomorrow. $150B in the bank. Arrange a meeting with Tim to offer him your expert help on running a business.
There's quite literally barely any difference, and what difference is there won't effect functionality or use at all.
It is exactly a competitor to the Surface Pro 3. Tablet sales are decreasing. The only increases are in hybrids like the Surface Pro 3. Honestly, the IPad Pro does it bring anything to the table that hasn't already been accomplished by the Surface Pro 3. It comes down to platform preference. If someone was heavily invested in apps and only needed a light office / productivity device then this will do well for them. Time will tell, but I think has about as much success as the Apple Watch initially and then levels out. There are those out there that won't even consider anything MSFT no matter how good it is. I do like how Apple and Microsoft are partnering more now. Good for consumers.
Many many many companies are going cloud and Google are signing up loads of them. Chrome books are cheap and very easy to support (swap one out when it doesn't work) and so companies are going that way. Google is one option but my point was on productivity apps that are really not very cpu intensive. If you need a surface to do your job, it most likely doesn't need to be very beefed up. If you are a video editor, you probably won't opt for a surface or an iPad Pro. You'll go with a desktop, maybe a Mac Pro.
MS Office applications seem to hinge people to their windows PC's and yet the world is now opening its eyes to alternatives that can be compatible with each other. Soon enough these productivity apps won't be different in different OS's, they will have a common language just like html. So, the Surface Pro adds weight to a device that runs office applications very well. It's not what I would choose for any creativity uses.
I'm just disappointed they didn't update the iPad Air. I have a two-year-old model and was ready to upgrade, but I'm not going to upgrade to last year's model, nor am I going to upgrade to something that much bigger.
It bugs me that you can't put the stylus into the device. Maybe that's just not possible from a technical perspective, but it makes it way easier to forget it or lose it.
One thing that could help is if the iPad detects proximity from the stylus and alerts you if they get separated (as an option, at least).
One thing that could help is if the iPad detects proximity from the stylus and alerts you if they get separated (as an option, at least).
The weight between an iPad Pro and a Surface Pro 3 is minimal = .2 lbs.
Office 365 and Azure services are being signed up by customers like crazy. Cloud is the future for sure and Microsoft is in a superior position with office, PowerBI, etc. just in my experience (I know I'm not everyone) Microsoft owns the enterprise and will continue to do so. I don't see this device making much of a dent.
Add to it we haven't seen a surface pro 4 which is due soon which may even be more compelling. TBD.
The days of being able to put a full sized stylus in the machine are long since gone. Unless Apple made the stylus so skinny, it'd be too uncomfortable to use, there's no way they'd be able to fit it into the body of the iPad.
Though I guess they could put a slot off to the side of the screen, but that'd clash with Apple's unadorned, minimalist style.
I don't agree. The surface is a poor implementation of a hybrid because it can't be a tablet. It's more a laptop with touchscreen that doesn't come bundled with a keyboard. The iPad Pro is a far better tablet and is better for creativity. The only thing it misses right now is the development of pro versions of Adobe Photoshop etc which is not the fault of Apple. I'm sure they will come.
You lose credibility when you talk about Windows security. You are stuck in the early 2000's if you don't realize Apples response to vulnerabilities is lacking significantly compare to other companies including MS.
Looking at the tech specs of the iPad Pro and Surface Pro 3, the size is similar, and so is the weight. With the 13.3 MBA coming in at 2.96 lbs vs. the Surface Pro 3 at 1.76 without keyboard cover, and the iPad Pro at 1.57 without keyboard cover, I would imagine both of those approach or exceed 2 lbs with the cover weight added. The MBA drawback is that is isn't a nice little tablet and doesn't have a touchscreen and for real power you have to go to the Retina 13.3 MacBook which brings it up to 3.48 lbs. But the overall sizes and screen real estate are all similar. I guess at the end of the day I still want a full blown OS, trackpad and keyboard. For me the Air wins.
Currently I have a 27" iMac, a 2012 13.3" Air, an iPad Mini 2 (Retina) and iPhone 6 Plus. The Mini 2 is redundant with the arrival of the 6 Plus as the screen real estate on that means I don't really use the tablet much and I would prefer the Air over the Mini in most portable cases to have an actual computer and not a tablet. And I always default to the iMac over the Air because screen real estate wins out.
I just don't see that iPads have a big place for me anymore. Other than for the kids to use.
How can it not be a tablet????? Millions use it as a tablet today. I use my iPad Air primarily at home because I am locked in the ecosystem of apps. I use my surface at work constantly as a tablet.
I guess it you have never used a surface pro 3 you could make that assumption. However, if you used one then I think you would have a different conclusion if you went in with an unbiased view. Nice chatting with you. If you end up getting an iPad Pro then I hope it meets all of your needs. Surely quite a few will be happy with it.
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