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iPad Pro Hands-on Makes the Case for Productivity Uses, Apple Pencil Is Excellent
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Right... Because its the same old soup, but warmed-over... Is sooo good. Yum! I love it (sic)
Why on earth do you really need a file system.
All I want if I'm running anything is accessing exactly data needed for the task
- wherever I am I, that's all I really care about.
It could be on the device, another device, the cloud, the moon, a social network, inside a third party source, I don't care and I don't want to manage it.
- Spending the hell of a time to organize files hundreds of thousand files accross dozens of devices machines is not my idea of fun
That's coming from someone who has 20T of storage and countless Unix servicers on her own network and a hell of a home "network". I've dealt with file systems since the 1970s and the shine is off....
The file system paradigm is really close to being kicked to the curb; only inertia and ingrained old habits sustain it.
Considering the huge quantity of tablets in the enterprise, real work is already being done on them and it's just starting.
Tablets are still quite new. Talk to me in 5 years.
It's not less than a computer if a computer is nOT WHAT YOU NEED.
Then, it's the computer that's the on the "less" side of the equation.
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That and a terminal. Heh, imagine a stock terminal app in iOS, like the one on Cydia
I don't know why people try to use a tablet for real work anyway. For that, the rMBP is always king.
This made me chuckle: @fraserspeirs: The Pencil was extremely impressive. Certainly the best iPad stylus I have used by a country mile. Palm rejection near-perfect. He then goes on to respond to all the questions about how it compares to Wacom as "I’m not familiar with drawing tablets so I couldn’t really say more."
So...... it's the best iPad stylus yet, which isn't really saying a whole lot.
It will be interesting to see how they really compare to a Wacom once the unit get out into the wild. I think it is good to challenge Wacom and get some more choices for artists. MS is aiming that way with their Surface line, but not quite there yet. We will see how Apple does.
So...... it's the best iPad stylus yet, which isn't really saying a whole lot.
It will be interesting to see how they really compare to a Wacom once the unit get out into the wild. I think it is good to challenge Wacom and get some more choices for artists. MS is aiming that way with their Surface line, but not quite there yet. We will see how Apple does.
Because version control is impossible otherwise. Even something simple like "save as" is missing.
There's also the issue of sending files over email, uploading them to websites, etc. You might be able to pull it off if you're very careful, but why be careful when you don't need to be? Just get a Mac
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Obviously someone didn't watch the keynote. 2 apps that didn't make it keynote is Concepts and a little app which wasn't previewed but shown in a photo, UMake. It's getting there and Apple is doing their best to get it right, MS did the easy way out with Surface but how the apps touch experience will be in the next 5 years? I doubt we'll see much focus from developers there unless the new MS CEO really knows how to get developers to focus on it
No, you can't. The iPad Pro display was uniquely designed to work with the apple pencil.
Some of these are bad criticisms because iPad connects with a bluetooth mouse if you need one at all.
For most people an iPad is all they need/want. Maybe for you the iPad isnt enough. However For many others its more than enough. We are in an era where computers are more power than most people need or want. File systems are overrated for those people who dont care or need direct access to it....which is most people. You dont need a macbook to watch videos surf the net or play on fb and instagram. You need a full on computer to do development work or intensive photo/video processing work.
The iPad can be used as a drawing surface that a macbook cant without significant retooling.
The right tool for the right job. Not everyone has the same needs as you.
I was looking at the mini 4 hard the other day. Its easier to cary around but I do like my big iPad Air. I know I want the iPad Pro with the pen and cover.
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Wrong. Surface Pro 4 includes the pen and the Core i5 SP4 (1.099,00 €) would be a better comparison. Total cost would be 1,248€.
128GB iPad Pro with Pencil and keyboard is 1,104.57€.
I'll take a full OS over a first gen Apple product any day for just 100 more. Apple is fleecing people.
iOS is a full operating system. SP4 is two diferent OS' on the same device.
Windows 10 is............................still Windows.
I'll take iOS all day long, thank you.
I'll take iOS all day long, thank you.
Well if developers build one and it's a yes, autocad already has a iOS app for it, it's call autocad360, interface looks impressive and will work even better on the pro, go watch apples keynote presentation to see an example of its power.
Adobe also demoed a few apps that targets photoshop and illustrator demographics
It's up to developers now to build touch optimized applications and the sales number of iPads does motivate them to an extent.
I know Fusion 360 is probably working on an iOS version internally and there's already OnShape. The productivity tools are there just most people are not aware of it, and it takes time cause developers will have to rethink their interface to make it work with touch interface. So it might not be there yet, but if Apple took MS approach, it'll probably never reach there at all.
Why is file system necessary?
Holy smokes. Are you even pretending to be serious right now?
Consider, for a second, what the file system of an architecture firm looks like. Or a machining company. Or a car company. Or a bicycle company. Or a drug company. Millions and millions of interconnected files of all types coming together all organized in specific ways with huge hierarchies of strict naming conventions ensuring functional access and control from countless software applications current and legacy in various locations on multiple networks and a mess of permissions and delta versioning and QC and approval processes and corruptions and recoveries and on and on.
And all that is going to what, magically sort itself out and work smoothly without anyone ever seeing what they're doing? A room full of monkeys would actually have a better chance of typing hamlet.
And then, we're supposed to keep entire extra sets of exported ipad-friendly filetypes of all this data, for access by a "professional" tablet running an operating system borrowed from a phone? This is not realistic.
The only way anyone is successfully separating the human from the file system is by putting a very reliable AI in charge of keeping it running instead, and even still you're going to need at least periodic oversight.
As much as I love Apple, and I do, they are making it really hard right now by stubbornly treating tablets as mobile devices, presumably to avoid encroaching on those golden MBP sales.
Holy smokes. Are you even pretending to be serious right now?
Consider, for a second, what the file system of an architecture firm looks like. Or a machining company. Or a car company. Or a bicycle company. Or a drug company. Millions and millions of interconnected files of all types coming together all organized in specific ways with huge hierarchies of strict naming conventions ensuring functional access and control from countless software applications current and legacy in various locations on multiple networks and a mess of permissions and delta versioning and QC and approval processes and corruptions and recoveries and on and on.
And all that is going to what, magically sort itself out and work smoothly without anyone ever seeing what they're doing? A room full of monkeys would actually have a better chance of typing hamlet.
And then, we're supposed to keep entire extra sets of exported ipad-friendly filetypes of all this data, for access by a "professional" tablet running an operating system borrowed from a phone? This is not realistic.
The only way anyone is successfully separating the human from the file system is by putting a very reliable AI in charge of keeping it running instead, and even still you're going to need at least periodic oversight.
As much as I love Apple, and I do, they are making it really hard right now by stubbornly treating tablets as mobile devices, presumably to avoid encroaching on those golden MBP sales.
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Uh, no. iOS can't do anything that OS X can do. Let's be honest.
SP4 comes with Windows 10. Full OS. No jokes. SP4 can do exactly what my Windows desktop can.
Thats really the crux of the issue... App devs will re-build apps to take advantage of the additional real estate. There is little incentive for them to rework their previos msft apps.
The only thing it cant do is access terminal without downloading 3rd party apps. It is in the same boat as surface out of the box on that point. Other than that SP4 gives people file system access that most people dont need or care about. Most people need to be able to create office documents, email, video, music and use the internet with a few other apps. Thats it. 95% or more of the use cases are covered by iOS. For the others you simply by a more powerful machine ie...a full computer.
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Eventually Adobe will make a version of Photoshop for iPad pro because if they don't fill that gap, someone else will.
Maybe Apple wants to have room for improvement. The next model will have 30% perfectier palm rejection.
Wrong. Mac OS and iOS have gotten features from each other. But Mac OS is not becoming iOS so stop talking rubbish troll
And in the intervening YEARS while we wait for this to happen, I will run Photoshop on my Surface Book now while I wait. Maybe I will buy the iPad Pro 6 or something. Or maybe by then it will be the "new" iPad Pro or some other confusing naming scheme.
Do you really think it will take years for Adobe to bring Photoshop to the iPad pro? Let's be realistic here. There are already other photo editing apps for the iPad which will be upgraded to be used on the iPad pro. Adobe already have other iOS apps available. Adobe will have a fully functioning version of Photoshop for the iPad pro sometime next year by the launch of iPad pro 2 the latest. The iPad pro sales will exceed expectations and Adobe is in the business of making money. Don't be naive about this.
Windows on a tablet is just like putting truck transmission into a sports car. It will move, but will be slow, buggy, prone to defects, unnecessary clumsy, hard to work with and plain ugly.
I agree we shouldn't be naive about this.
iOS users don't pay full Adobe prices.
Right now the mobile apps are included as part of your CC subscription. Which also gives you all the full desktop apps. What motivation is there for Adobe to spend all the $$ to port their full apps to iOS?
I suppose they could create a mobile app only subscription for $10/month like they did for us cheap-ass photographers, but getting CC down that cheap took an uprising in the photography community and I don't see the iPad Pro driving that kind of grass roots protest for a while yet.
Adobe does subscriptions now. I dont know anyone who pays full photoshop prices. There is incentive if the Apple Pen is as amazing as everyone including msft says it is.