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iPad Pro Tidbits: A9X Outperforms MacBook, Apple Pencil is Weighted, T-Mobile Financing and More

Apple has officially given up. They don't innovate. They don't even make real computers anymore. I started using macs in the 90's with a powermac 7600. I would rather go back to that than use any of the paperweights they spit out now.
We haven't had a real computer from them since 2012 with the Mac Pro, and that wasn't even a cutting edge machine! Where are the innovations? Where are the computing powerhouses that we should be churning away work in our offices and homes?
Apple gave up. All they have now are underpowered laptops, iMac jokes and iToys for spoiled mallrats to text about their latest lunch at the foodcourt. Breaks my heart.
 
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Am I the only one who thinks Apple purposedly released half-baked product so that they have room for new features for the future?

I hate these types of marketing. Im pretty sure Apple will release this with OSX may be in a year or two.

Wont be buying until then
 
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I'm still rocking the Ipad Air 1, this just has me craving the inevitable Ipad Air 3 that has this processor it it, still won't have the 4gb of memory or the speakers thou
 
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Greymacuser said:
Apple has officially given up. They don't innovate. They don't even make real computers anymore. I started using macs in the 90's with a powermac 7600. I would rather go back to that than use any of the paperweights they spit out now.
We haven't had a real computer from them since 2012 with the Mac Pro, and that wasn't even a cutting edge machine! Where are the innovations? Where are the computing powerhouses that we should be churning away work in our offices and homes?
Apple gave up. All they have now are underpowered laptops, iMac jokes and iToys for spoiled mallrats to text about their latest lunch at the foodcourt. Breaks my heart.
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There's the door. Don't let it hit you on the way out.
 
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avanpelt said:
Surface Book is deluded? Tim, you'd sell a lot more of these iPad Pros if users were able to run OS X on it and pair a mouse with it. Better yet, let the iPad Pro run OS X and also run iOS apps. Best of both worlds, but then Apple would probably charge $1,299 minimum for it.
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Timmy is the only one deluded and delusional. Surface Pro 4 / Surface Book is by far the best hybrids on the market. It excels at being a regular full featured PC and tablet. Why carry multiple devices when one is not only sufficient, but excellent. My iPad Air stays at home by my recliner (consumption) when I travel. I only bring my Surface Pro 3 as it meets all my requirements personal and professional when on the road. If really like my air for reading and surfacing the web and doing minor emails, etc. However, if I was limited to a single device, the Surface Pro would win out by far.
 
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dysamoria said:
Sounds like you want a laptop, not a tablet.
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Yes, a laptop with a large touchscreen, a low-stack active digitizer & passive pressure sensitive stylus, and no mechanical keyboard permanently installed.

So, a tablet, running professional applications, and an operating system capable of running those applications (OS X), for working directly on-screen.

...perhaps even with a removable keyboard accessory that has an extra battery bank for more charge & weight when you need to do some traditional typing.
 
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Just saw the iPad Pro at the Apple Store. It's pretty damn big, but it looks good. They didn't have any display models to play with, but they did have some in stock for purchase. Saw a few people purchasing them. Friday is apparently when they go on display.
 
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The macbook is an overpriced netbook. It's 2015, the FaceTime camera on it is only 480p. I was surprised that's even available from cmos manufacturers.

I would much rather see an iPad Pro running iOS and allowing users access to the file system. Yes, I understand, lots of people are confused by file systems, but millions of power users are not. Let the grown adults use a iOS without having to jailbreak for these features.
 
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StudyFlo said:
Why would you need MacBook class CPU and MacBook Pro class GPU performance?
Maybe there's an Apple TV Pro someday - for only $999.
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Gaming.

And it would have been easy to have it even more powerful on the apple tv, since there are much less constraints (easier to dissipate heat and no battery to be worried about -> higher clock speed); there's no reason why an Apple tv with A9X (or a faster processor) should cost 999$ (or even more than it costs the one that is sold now), since the CPU plays a very small role no the total cost of the product. It's very likely that the cost of this CPU is lower rh
 
Hanterdro said:
Unbelievable that the ATV4 didn't got the A9X
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It doesn't need it currently and it would have increased the expense. There's no need for the power right now. It can easily play all the games currently available without issue. Why do you believe it NEEDS the A9X?
 
avanpelt said:
Surface Book is deluded? Tim, you'd sell a lot more of these iPad Pros if users were able to run OS X on it and pair a mouse with it. Better yet, let the iPad Pro run OS X and also run iOS apps. Best of both worlds, but then Apple would probably charge $1,299 minimum for it.
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I agree. Completely.
 
v0lume4 said:
Wow. I've seen the iPad Pro labelled by Apple as "desktop class," and described by Tim as, "the only computer some people will ever need."

To mirror Tim's same diction, "The iPad Pro is trying to be a laptop and really doesn't succeed at it. It comes short."

Now, I don't think the iPad Pro is bad. And congratulations to all of you that get it, truly. It simply angers me to see someone be so arrogant as to call the Surface Book "deluded" after seeing the way the iPad Pro is described by the executives at Apple.
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I don't think the two are equivalent. The surface is trying to do everything that a laptop can do but in tablet form. Tim says the iPad Pro will replace laptops for many people. Meaning that it can't necessarily do everything that a laptop can, just the things that most people use a laptop for.

While I do agree that the Surface is deluded in what it is trying to be, I do not agree that Tim should be speaking out against it. It sends the message that Tim is actually intimidated by it and therefor has to bad mouth it. Instead of acting as though it is of so little concern to him to even be worth commenting on.
 
WalterTizzano said:
Gaming.

And it would have been easy to have it even more powerful on the apple tv, since there are much less constraints (easier to dissipate heat and no battery to be worried about -> higher clock speed); there's no reason why an Apple tv with A9X (or a faster processor) should cost 999$ (or even more than it costs the one that is sold now), since the CPU plays a very small role no the total cost of the product. It's very likely that the cost of this CPU is lower rh
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Gaming isn't the focus of the Apple TV. There's a reason Apple hasn't put much focus on the gaming aspect of the product.

If you want to play games, there are XBOXs, Playstations and other FAR better options out there that put an actual focus on gaming.
 
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Are you sure he didn't say "diluted" instead of "deluded"? That makes more sense and is more diplomatic. Maybe it got mixed up in his slight southern accent.
 
avanpelt said:
Check the Apple site and see if it shows in stock today at your local store. Every Apple Store within a 150 mile radius of me (Atlanta, GA) has the 32 GB iPad Pro available for pickup today. The 128 GB Wi-Fi and Wi-Fi + Cellular models are both only available to ship to the store.
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They have all the models, any size at all my local stores today.
 
avanpelt said:
Surface Book is deluded? Tim, you'd sell a lot more of these iPad Pros if users were able to run OS X on it and pair a mouse with it. Better yet, let the iPad Pro run OS X and also run iOS apps. Best of both worlds, but then Apple would probably charge $1,299 minimum for it.
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The A9X wouldn't run OS X well and you'd see a HUGE dive in battery life also. It's not apples to apples to simply run OS X on it.
 
Im a bit surprised that the A9X wasn't at least a tri-core processor like the A8X in the iPad air 2. But i guess that could be in the next version.
 
jase1125 said:
Timmy is the only one deluded and delusional. Surface Pro 4 / Surface Book is by far the best hybrids on the market. It excels at being a regular full featured PC and tablet. Why carry multiple devices when one is not only sufficient, but excellent. My iPad Air stays at home by my recliner (consumption) when I travel. I only bring my Surface Pro 3 as it meets all my requirements personal and professional when on the road. If really like my air for reading and surfacing the web and doing minor emails, etc. However, if I was limited to a single device, the Surface Pro would win out by far.
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Neither the Surface Pro or Book "excel" at being a tablet, they lack the touch apps, and the Book isn't a great tablet- heavy, poor battery life... It's a better than nothing tablet that you can detach if the keyboard is somehow in the way.
 
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Benjamin Frost said:
I couldn't agree more with Tim Cook about the Surface.

What's the point in a tablet with 3 hours battery life? And it's much too heavy and poorly shaped, not to mention having no tablet-optimised apps.

Microsoft just don't get tablets.
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If you need a tablet then the Surface Pro 4 can give you 8 hrs of battery life and still give you the desktop OS experience with full productivity apps. Not kind of a little productive iOS apps
 
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Flow39 said:
Agreed, that's not something I'd expect a company like Apple to come out and say. That's a low blow.
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Huh? they have done that for years and years. It would be a surprise if they didn't criticize other products (windows, android, Surface) like they have repeatedly done in the past.
 
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