OK
I'll buy one when:
1. It comes with a physical keyboard.
2. It's as light as my MB 12"
3. It runs OSX.
4. It has a SSD with at least 500g
5. It will run xCode.
6. It has the full OSX file system.
Until then it's a big iPad, which has a place but falls short of an OSX based system.
Notice Microsoft has distance itself from the ARM processors and put its focus into the Intel, full featured side of the fence. Apple can mock all they want, but Windows hardware is gaining ground. Now if they can just run OSX on the latest Intel Surface and Book they might really have something.
I would love to use the "Pencil" on a touchscreen OSX MB 12" or some version as light!
Apple released the iPad Pro on the Apple Online Store and at select Apple Retail Stores and resellers earlier today, and we have rounded up some interesting facts and news announcements surrounding the 12.9-inch tablet.
iPad Pro Delivers Notebook-Level Performance
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Geekbench results show that the iPad Pro's A9X processor is a dual-core chip running at about 2.25 GHz, as reported by Ars Technica.
The A9X chip had a 3,233 single-core score and 5,498 multi-score score in browser-based CPU tests, outperforming the iPad Air 2 and other recent iPhones and iPads by a significant margin.
iPad Pro also outperformed the 12-inch Retina MacBook, equipped with an Intel Core M dual-core processor clocked at 1.1 to 1.2 GHz, but the A9X chip's CPU performance falls short of devices like the 2015 MacBook Air and Surface Pro 4 with Intel's latest Broadwell or Skylake U-series processors.
The iPad Pro's GPU performance is much more impressive, with GFXBench OpenGL test results showing the A9X chip outperformed the 2015 15" Retina MacBook Pro with Intel Iris 5200 integrated graphics, in addition to the 12-inch MacBook, 2015 MacBook Air, 2015 13" Retina MacBook Pro, Surface Pro 4 and all recent iPads.Apple Pencil is Weighted
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Lauren Goode of The Verge shared an interesting anecdote about the Apple Pencil in her iPad Pro review:Read our iPad Pro review roundup.
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T-Mobile has announced the iPad Pro will be available November 18. Eligible customers can finance their iPad Pro purchase through the carrier's JUMP! On Demand program, starting at $199.99 upfront with $34/month payments.
T-Mobile has a sign-up page to receive an email alert when orders can be placed. Apple Pencil and Smart Keyboard will also be available on T-Mobile for $99 and $169 respectively starting November 18.
Apple Store Availability
iPad Pro launched today with limited in-store stock at select Apple Retail Stores in the United States, Canada, United Kingdom and some other countries. Personal Pickup is available in U.S. stores.
Most Apple Stores have not received stock of the Apple Pencil and Smart Keyboard, while online shipping estimates currently range between 3-4 weeks in the U.S. and many other countries for the accessories.
Tim Cook Calls Microsoft's Surface Book "Deluded"
The Irish Independent has published an interview with Apple CEO Tim Cook about the company's plans to expand in Ireland, iPad Pro and more, with his comment about Microsoft's new Surface Book drawing some attention:Follow our iPad Pro timeline for the latest news about the 12.9-inch tablet.![]()
Article Link: iPad Pro Tidbits: A9X Outperforms MacBook, Apple Pencil is Weighted, T-Mobile Financing and More
I'll probably get some hate for saying this, but the Apple store employee isn't what they used to be. Many years ago, you work there, you know the product and you love the product. These days, you just get folks who has gone through some official training (probably works there because it sounds better than working somewhere else). I bet that many people on Macrumors will outperform many of the people currently working in the Apple store.
I have no problems using it in my recliner or as a tablet. No surface required on my part.I have the surface pro 1 and 3. one thing i always find is that the surface requires a surface (no pun intended) to work effectively.
Surface Book is deluded? Tim, you'd sell a lot more of these iPad Pros if users were able to run OS X on it and pair a mouse with it. Better yet, let the iPad Pro run OS X and also run iOS apps. Best of both worlds, but then Apple would probably charge $1,299 minimum for it.
I have no problems using it in my recliner or as a tablet. No surface required on my part.
To all of you who keep throwing out OS X as a good thing for a tablet. It's not. The OS is not made for touch. The apps do not have UI that would be good for touch. OS X isn't exactly swimming in applications as a desktop OS, and would be basically starting fresh with an OS not designed or optimized for touch/ARM and no applications.
At that point, might as well get a Surface.
banking on this
Please, please, please never design products. You can't come up with these things in a vacuum. You are describing a backward reality than never pushes things forward. In actual fact you just want a laptop. You say you want both but you Sir are very much a truck driver. Drive a truck, keep driving a truck and the iPad will evolve underneath and around you to become something you can't imagine in a 30-second MacRumors post.
Deluded or diluted? Or both?
Anyway, shots fired.
Considering that the Surface doesn't sell that well despite the constant chatter on tech sites, and the tablet portions sucks and the laptop portion isn't that great. Yes, I've used it. Not sure what the hell you're talking about.
Actually it's really impressive because the Air 2 has a triple core while the iPad Pro is only a dual core.
Try this, list your daily activity on a non-gaming lap-top. Do you need a full windows or Mac OS to do these? Tired of people saying iPad Pro doesn't run full OS.....
It made me fairly irritated when I heard this earlier. I stopped and thought to myself, "Apple, why are you making arrogant comments? The SB is a really cool product and has far more potential to replace a computer than the iPad Pro."
Apple better cut the arrogant comments, because it will only hurt their public image after a short time.
The way that Apple Pencil stops rolling on "Pencil" really shows Apple's attention to detail
Seems you want an the Macbook Air of the future.OK
I'll buy one when:
1. It comes with a physical keyboard.
2. It's as light as my MB 12"
3. It runs OSX.
4. It has a SSD with at least 500g
5. It will run xCode.
6. It has the full OSX file system.
Unbelievable that the ATV4 didn't got the A9X
That's app store apps only.Not so. As of a year or two ago, when developers submit to the iOS and OS X app stores via Xcode, they don't actually submit a fully compiled project to Apple. Instead it uploads a platform independent file to Apple's servers, then Apple handles actually generating the executable that the customers download.
The idea is to make it so that when new versions of ARM or x86 comes out, developers don't need to recompile and resubmit to take advantage of new stuff. Apple handles the final compilation from the platform independent file to the actual executable binary.
So any app that has been updated within the past 2 years is ready for the change in architecture when OS X moves from Intel to ARM (or to any other architecture, for that matter.)
We've been hearing Apple defend iOS this way from the start, we don't really need to hear the same nonsense repeated by fans. As has been explained in every thread it's come up in, to run a touch OS on a small display, you need an optimized OS and applications. Together, they make an unbeatable mobile device. A full-sized tablet, with 13 or 15 inch display and full featured OS and application suite, is not first & foremost a mobile device. It is a big work surface for doing real on-screen professional work. It works fantastically, and we don't even have to argue hypotheticals, we can simply point to our large touchscreen Wacom cintiq's plugged into our Macs, as evidence that it's the finest Mac experience there is. Unfortunately, it's also about a $6500 package and is in no way even really practically moveable from one desk to another, much less a lap, at all.
Apple is simply milking sales off the status quo product line for as long as they can by prolonging the inevitable. Ten years from now, when Apple is finally on board with everyone else, the excuses explaining the delay will flow like wine.
Where's that "I for one welcome our..." or "try not to choke on that" emoji when you need them?There's no doubt this is the most impressive tablet anyone has ever built. Performance is staggering and all the reviews I've read are hugely positive.
If you want the best possible tablet experience, there is no doubt iPad Pro is the device you quite simply must own.