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iPad Pro Videos: 4K Video Exporting, Cases and Apple Pencil Tracking

I know this might never happen but I would love the see the iPad Pro works like the Wacom Cintiq. Open Photoshop on the iPad do work using the Apple Pencil and then send it back to the Mac to finish the job. If Adobe and Apple could combine these two technologies it would be just fantastic for graphic designers.
 
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Lesser Evets said:
Apple needs to focus on two things as the iPad Pro matures into next year and beyond:

• Connectivity ( to external drives, back-up, cameras, etc. etc. etc)
• Software jumping over to iPad (theirs and others)

If they do that, they will have a "laptop killer" within a couple more years.
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Why do we need to kill the laptop? Why not own both? A laptop will always do some things better than a tablet, and vice versa.
 
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Dang I didn't realize how big the Pro is until I saw this video. Seems ridiculously large...like carrying around a flat screen TV. Sheesh, I want to see a pic side by side with the Touch 6.

I can't wait for the drop tests...
 
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I got to try it in store today. It's an awesome device. Amazing screen but it feels surprisingly light for its size. The Pencil is incredible - easily the best stylus I've used since my Cintiq, and probably bests it. The video barely conveys how much better it is than Surface Pro, bu that fact was immediately apparent to me. The Pro stylus isn't even close as far as responsiveness and accuracy. No wavy lines either. It doesn't even feel like a stylus, honestly. The performance was so good and so consistent it just felt like a regular pencil. The pressure response curve was flawless, unlike the Surface which registers all kinds of different line weights. Hard to describe in writing or if you don't have a lot of experience with various styluses, but the feel is just perfect. Latency seemed app dependent. It was imperceptible in the Notes app, but in Paper 53 it was definitely noticeable, but still not bad. I can't wait to get one of my own.

I'm sure this thread will get the usual dismissive comments from the peanut gallery, but it's a very impressive device. So much so I kind of wonder where the Air even fits in anymore, as if you want the larger format iPad the Pro is definitely the way to go. Just excellent stuff all around.
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They have the Pencil available to try out in store?
 
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As a digital artist, I really want the iPad pro, but the Apple Pencil needs to be charged. Why doesn't it electromagnetically pull power from the tablet like other styluses? My Wacom pens never need to be charged, and neither do my s-pens. Stopping to charge it would break my workflow regardless of how many hours the charge holds out. That's something I needn't worry about with similar devices. It seems overpriced for a device that needs to be charged, while styluses/pens are included with similar tools. I get that not everyone wants a stylus, but if it's going to cost $100, why should it ever need to be charged in such a primitive way? Apple is a given for artists and designers. I still use my eight year-old MacBook Pro and it runs wonderfully. I appreciate how Apple develops the newest OS with older systems in mind. Macs are built to last, but it seems something is off these days with the hardware designers... well, for the Apple Pencil at least. I don't get it...
 
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The Pro does look smoother and more responsive than the SP4, but it's hard to compare sampling points because it could be the software rather than the hardware that's making for those jaggy edges.

The best thing to do would be to test the pen out in multiple applications. Like Procreate for the iPad, and PS/Illustrator for the SP.
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You're still comparing apples to apples (No pun intended). The Surface is using One Note, a native Microsoft application. And the iPad is using Notes, a native Apple application. If MS can't get the pen and One Note to work together as flawlessly as the Pencil and Notes, with a 3 year head start what difference does it make whether it's "software" or "hardware" that's causing the issue?
 
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We need to see more pro apps for photographers and videographers. As a photographer I'd love to see full RAW editing come to the iPad. That might peak my interest.

Love the chip under the hood.
 
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happydude said:
given how much they were promoting the pencil, thought it would do much better vs. surface than it seems to do.
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Because a pencil with non-rechargeable batteries (a coin cell, and an AAAA you can't find anywhere), is the way to go!

AlexH said:
We need to see more pro apps for photographers and videographers. As a photographer I'd love to see full RAW editing come to the iPad. That might peak my interest.

Love the chip under the hood.
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This! Unfortunately, camera manufacturers aren't the most forward-thinking companies out there...
 
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As a digital artist, I really want the iPad pro, but the Apple Pencil needs to be charged. Why doesn't it electromagnetically pull power from the tablet like other styluses? My Wacom pens never need to be charged, and neither do my s-pens. Stopping to charge it would break my workflow regardless of how many hours the charge holds out. That's something I needn't worry about with similar devices. It seems overpriced for a device that needs to be charged, while styluses/pens are included with similar tools. I get that not everyone wants a stylus, but if it's going to cost $100, why should it ever need to be charged in such a primitive way? Apple is a given for artists and designers. I still use my eight year-old MacBook Pro and it runs wonderfully. I appreciate how Apple develops the newest OS with older systems in mind. Macs are built to last, but it seems something is off these days with the hardware designers... well, for the Apple Pencil at least. I don't get it...
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I would guess they want/expect you to buy a 2nd pencil to have charged and ready to go so that you don't break that creative workflow. When you're spending at the very least, $900 for an iPad pro and a pencil, what's another $100 for another pencil?

I'm not saying you're wrong -- you're absolutely right... just giving what I would see as their perspective on how you *should* do things based on their incorporation of this into your work flow.
 
That video review is really what I was thinking - it's great potential, but Apple being Apple, they refuse to do things that would make use of that potential. He mentions that it would be cool to use the iPad as an HDMI screen, which would be amazing but when will Apple ever support something as retro and uncool as a cable? They'd rather you just play Candy Crush XXL and never do anything useful than to give you such an ugly, horrible option.

And if it can export 4K video that quickly, why the hell can't it edit RAW images, like, at all? This would have been a crazy request 2 years ago, but now they've added the "Pro" suffix to it and it has a big screen and a stylus. In fact, a stylus is no use for video editing, but it's great for photo retouching. To me this screams "The iPad Pro is the ideal tool for photographers or people who work with images!". Use the iPad as an auxiliary display for your SLR in live view! Use it as a 2nd monitor for your Mac! Use it to do basic edits on your RAW images while on the go! Do some quick retouching, cloning, healing, with the pencil! I mean just what Lightroom can do. Not asking for full-blown Photoshop.

And yet no, not only are there no useful photo editing apps for the iPad, (Adobe basically released some crap light version of the light version of Lightroom which itself is a light version of Photoshop that edits the contrast of JPEGs), but even if there was a decent photo editing app, what the hell would you do with those files? Where would you even store a 2 TB library of images? It can't even connect to a USB hard drive! Because that would require cables, huh. Oh, wait, iCloud! Sure! Try downloading and uploading gigabytes a day! Just to save yourself from the horror of having to use a cable!

This is great hardware that is ahead of its software. By the time software catches up, the hardware will be obsolete. For now, it's just a big ass iPad with a stylus you can use to draw stuff.

Edit: Oh and wow, imagine using this as a Wacom Cintiq. A Retina display thin as an iPad without having to connect 2 cables to it like the Cintiq (one for power, one for display). The Cintiq is clunky, huge, and has a crap display with crap parallax. It has a plastic screen. The iPad would just be better in every way. But hey that won't ever happen I bet.
 
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rrm74001 said:
Wow, you are right. The first time I watched it I was like "Wow, basically no difference". But looking closer, it looks like the Surface can't do curves. Interesting.
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You saw different apps and brushes being used. Load Photoshop on the Surface Pro and will have access to every brush imaginable and can draw any curves you need all day.
 
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AlexH said:
We need to see more pro apps for photographers and videographers. As a photographer I'd love to see full RAW editing come to the iPad. That might peak my interest.

Love the chip under the hood.
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yeah I am waiting for a full functional indesign, illustrator, photoshop and dreamweaver...THEN its got my interest
 
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As a digital artist, I really want the iPad pro, but the Apple Pencil needs to be charged. Why doesn't it electromagnetically pull power from the tablet like other styluses? My Wacom pens never need to be charged, and neither do my s-pens. Stopping to charge it would break my workflow regardless of how many hours the charge holds out. That's something I needn't worry about with similar devices. It seems overpriced for a device that needs to be charged, while styluses/pens are included with similar tools. I get that not everyone wants a stylus, but if it's going to cost $100, why should it ever need to be charged in such a primitive way? Apple is a given for artists and designers. I still use my eight year-old MacBook Pro and it runs wonderfully. I appreciate how Apple develops the newest OS with older systems in mind. Macs are built to last, but it seems something is off these days with the hardware designers... well, for the Apple Pencil at least. I don't get it...
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You honestly can't find time to charge it at all in the 12 hours of use it gets on a single charge? I know hundreds of digital artists. Every single one of them would have no problems charging the Pencil once in a 12 hour period. No one sits down and draws for 12 hours straight with no breaks.

Plus 15 seconds of charging gives you 30 minutes of usage. 15 seconds won't screw up you workflow.
 
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Had a little play with one today. Strangely i didn't think it seemed that big at all. I think the iPhone 6s + looks ridiculous when you look at that, but for some reason the iPad Pro seemed a normal size...I guess I just looked at it like it was a small laptop screen. It's not the great to hold.

Few thoughts though. I find people yearning for OS X on it bizarre. For a start of it would require a full re-write of OS X as its for Intel not Arm at the minute and thats no simple tasks (neither was going from PPC), secondly there is not a single element suitable for touch.

iOS does now need to step its game up from a purely mobile operating system though people saying "I want to be able to do proper work on it" I wonder what "proper work" is to them. Doing a spreedsheet and emailing? Video editing?

I think people are stuck in conventional thoughts with this though - that it has to be a tablet or a computer and it has to work the way they've always work. For me the greatest use of the iPad Pro is not as a laptop replacement, nor as a tablet but as the world best touch input device, which can be used as a large remote control for Logic Pro or media editing programs. For some records producers being able to touch 10 track volume levels at once on the iPad Pro is revolutionary for the price, previous choices were just the Slate touch screen which is many thousands more and only does one single job, the iPad is multi talented.

But I think thats where you've got the clash of the average user that expects a single device to do everything they can think of and be everything they've ever experienced in a laptop and tablet and something they can't even think of and a professional who pays twice as much as an iPad Pro for an item which does ONE specalised job only. The iPad Pro is capable of replacing some of these (Wacam Cintiq for instance in terms of illustration, graphic designers don't buy that then complain they can't video edit and multi task their e-mail and spreedsheets at the same time on it)
 
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The top video is spot on. At this point the wow factor is that it's a big iPad .

The bottom video, like many of us, we will have to wait for our pencils to ship to test.

As for the comparisons to the surface pro, I don't see the point, people in the market for a surface pro will not buy a iPad pro. I returned my surface pro 3, though one was a true PC replacement and the other is a large iPad for now, that will evolve based on the software, but will still be limited by iOS.

Really happy with mine, though as stated , I knew I was getting a device that runs iOS. So far loving it .
 
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Apple Pencil in action, see the video
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This makes me want to own one. Damn, the drawing, sketching and shading action is so smooth! I would probably own it just to draw on it. An expensive sketchbook for sure, but wow. I may have to start saving my extra cash. Also, as an aside: I would think reading comic books will be perfect on this size device. No more panning and zooming.
 
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magnimus said:
As a digital artist, I really want the iPad pro, but the Apple Pencil needs to be charged. Why doesn't it electromagnetically pull power from the tablet like other styluses? My Wacom pens never need to be charged, and neither do my s-pens. Stopping to charge it would break my workflow regardless of how many hours the charge holds out. That's something I needn't worry about with similar devices. It seems overpriced for a device that needs to be charged, while styluses/pens are included with similar tools. I get that not everyone wants a stylus, but if it's going to cost $100, why should it ever need to be charged in such a primitive way? Apple is a given for artists and designers. I still use my eight year-old MacBook Pro and it runs wonderfully. I appreciate how Apple develops the newest OS with older systems in mind. Macs are built to last, but it seems something is off these days with the hardware designers... well, for the Apple Pencil at least. I don't get it...
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Apparently, if the pencil runs out of power, plugging the pencil into the lightning port on the Pro for just 15 seconds gives you a 30 minutes worth of power.

http://www.apple.com/uk/apple-pencil/
 
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