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I know this might never happen but I would love the see the iPad Pro works like the Wacom Cintiq. Open Photoshop on the iPad do work using the Apple Pencil and then send it back to the Mac to finish the job. If Adobe and Apple could combine these two technologies it would be just fantastic for graphic designers.
Try Astropad
 
that's a huge difference in both lag and curve quality. i'm impressed as long as it's not a software effect.
 
I wish Apple would adopt this naming strategy with the iPhone... iPhone Pro sounds so much cooler than iPhone Plus
 
Dang I didn't realize how big the Pro is until I saw this video. Seems ridiculously large...like carrying around a flat screen TV. Sheesh, I want to see a pic side by side with the Touch 6.

I can't wait for the drop tests...

You see a new car. And your only wish is to see an accident? Poor boy! Destructive Zeitgeist!
 
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lol @ "more apps will be built to use this", you mean like all the apps that were built to use the iPad Air 2, which has a lower cost of entry?

If you're not a developer, please don't comment on what developers will do. Aside from high end suites that will absolutely net a ROI, most developers will carry on building 75% of their apps for iPhones and the rest on whatever they deem fit.

For most, that means one build for iPad which just adds a menu view and rebuilds constraints for better resolution of objects and one main build for iPhone, where more than 75% of your users will be.

I wanted to build an Apple TV version of a video streaming application. A video... streaming application with thousands of users. It was denied because of ROI. Bottom line, not enough users will have an Apple TV. It's hard enough to get the hours approved just to push an iPad build. An iPad Pro (which should've been called a Plus) would require a specialized build of a specialized build. All for what, users with an average purchase price per app of around 90 cents? Please.
 
As a digital artist, I really want the iPad pro, but the Apple Pencil needs to be charged. Why doesn't it electromagnetically pull power from the tablet like other styluses? My Wacom pens never need to be charged, and neither do my s-pens.

Huh? I've never heard of styluses that charge wirelessly. I think you're talking about a passive digitizer, but then you're confused about how it works. It doesn't pull power. Active pens all require charging.

It's pretty safe to assume that Apple investigated all the different possible technologies to use for their Pencil. As there usually are, there was probably a tradeoff. I would venture to guess that a digitizer has disadvantages with regard to lag. If MS could have gotten less lag from their passive stylus, they would have.
 
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The iPad does do way better. If you look at the lines drawn you will see that the surface is sampling less points as it goes so that it renders straight lines when there should be a curve.

My coworker is currently using the Surface Book. This is DEFINITELY a software issue. Do this same test using Autodesk Sketchbook (which is a serious sketching program-not ONENOTE) and you will see no jagged lines.
 
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Guess which is OneNote and which is Sketchbook
 
You saw different apps and brushes being used. Load Photoshop on the Surface Pro and will have access to every brush imaginable and can draw any curves you need all day.
Isn't OneNote a Microsoft app? Microsoft can't make smooth curves with their own software and hardware?
 
Apple needs to focus on two things as the iPad Pro matures into next year and beyond:

• Connectivity ( to external drives, back-up, cameras, etc. etc. etc)
• Software jumping over to iPad (theirs and others)

If they do that, they will have a "laptop killer" within a couple more years.
Almost agree.

Connectivity -- already there with dropbox, icloud drive.
Software -- this is where we totally agree. They need a Office Suite compatible and fully featured. iworks is good for home (what I use) but not for work, need TOC, Pivot Tables, etc. MS is there if you want to subscribe to 365. But where is Visio or MS project? Outlook? What about erWin? Okay what if you work in the arts, especially photography? Where are those killer apps. Aperture? nope that's dead. Adobe is expensive, buggy, and not intuitive. Pixelmator is the closest I have come to finding a reasonably priced tool, but missing a few pro level capabilities. I am not a graphic designer so not sure those tools but need those. Basically I am agreeing that we need the killer apps to leverage the iPad pro. We also need iOS to improve to allow more than two windows. I think Safari is viable now as a browser that can connect to the corporate software (havent tried it with sharepoint, but everything else seems to work fine).

Only other thing we need is a dock so that it will auto connect to multi screens and the network when I arrive at the office in the morning.
 
This makes me want to own one. Damn, the drawing, sketching and shading action is so smooth! I would probably own it just to draw on it. An expensive sketchbook for sure, but wow. I may have to start saving my extra cash. Also, as an aside: I would think reading comic books will be perfect on this size device. No more panning and zooming.
I have to admit to how impressive the pencil is on the iPad Pro. I had my misgivings, given how good is the one Microsoft includes with the Surface Pro, but Apple seems to have surpassed it. A shame it is tied only to the iPad Pro, which is much too large and expensive to interest me. If Apple had released an iPad Air 3 with the same technology, I might seriously consider getting one. It's almost certain to be in the next iPad Air, but we'll probably be waiting until next fall for that.
 
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Er given the Processor speed benchmarks it's pretty damn powerful - Just need some poe apps to appear on it.



It's way better. Look at the curves - the surface is jaggy as hell. The pencil is smooth. The Surface pressure and tilt are shocking / non existent too.

You do know they put iPad Air 3's processor in there, right?
Oh wait, that model doesn't exist, I wonder why. :cool:

As for the drawing performance, I agree, it's better by magnitudes going by the video.

Glassed Silver:mac
 
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Is the surface still as smooth when the anti virus decides to kick in the background , and windows updates starts faffing around and all you want to do is draw but Windows won't stop nagging you ? Or is it as nice to use when you spend an evening a month removing malware from Windows ? And it just starts to get Windows rot ?

I'm not synical after using Windows most my life at all... Really I'm not o_O
 
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Jonathan Morrison NAILED IT!!! This review answers ALL OF MY QUESTIONS!! It's just a bigger iPad. EXACTLY!!!
I could go on... but his short video review pretty much says it all!! And I didn't even have to buy one to agree with everything he talked about in the video.

If Apple ACTUALLY was smarter than they currently are... they would listen to me and make a device that, when the iPad Pro is docked, it becomes a screen that uses OSX and functions with a keyboard and mouse for a powerful desktop device... but when removed from the dock, switches to iOS mode and become a mobile device.
Why can't Apple do this? Quit wasting resources making pretty watches and make something revolutionary again!!!!
 
This makes me want to own one. Damn, the drawing, sketching and shading action is so smooth! I would probably own it just to draw on it. An expensive sketchbook for sure, but wow. I may have to start saving my extra cash. Also, as an aside: I would think reading comic books will be perfect on this size device. No more panning and zooming.
Thanks - that's fantastic!

 
After playing with one earlier, I honestly can't imagine going back to a "regular" size tablet.
The Pro is a awesome size. It will be a huge success.
 
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Apologies if I've missed it, but are there videos and/or reviews of people actually writing with the pencil - as in, actually attempting to write as they do normally? Is that possible? Is there an app for simply taking handwritten notes?
 
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