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MacRumors, please correct your lack of physics knowledge. All electromagnetic radiation travels at the same speed in any given medium. To say that mmWave is faster or slower is simply incorrect. Higher frequencies can hold more information, but they don't travel faster.
mmWave is a set of 5G frequencies that promise ultra-fast speeds at short distances, ideal for dense urban areas. By comparison, sub-6GHz 5G is generally slower than mmWave, but the signals travel further, better serving suburban and rural areas.
 
Glad they didn't go OLED - the way I use my iPad would have made for some crazy burn-in. My screen time each day is 8-9 hours since I use it as a secondary display for my Mac, and other times just leave email/slack open on it with the display set to auto-off after 10 minutes.

I really don't see why anyone would want OLED on a tablet or laptop, sure the colors are great and the black levels are perfect, but for anything other than movies/tv, why does that matter?
Photo & video editing are big standouts. OLED ProMotion should be amazing since OLED has a near instant response time. Currently the response time of LCD displays adds a blur even at 120hz. With OLED motion should look even smoother. That would improve web browsing and PDF viewing editing. OLED is also much thinner than LCDs or miniLED so Apple could increase the thickness of the coverglass and improve the structural integrity of the device.

I'm not sure Samsungs pentile AMOLED tech is really the best choice, not because of burn-in, but because with fewer sub pixels you need a higher technical resolution to achieve the same visual acuity. However there are OLED innovations on the horizon that I think could make it compelling against even microLED like using copper instead of iridium to increase longevity or quantum dots to improve brightness and color spectrum.
 
They can’t even launch MiniLED for the tiny Apple Watch yet somehow they are already gonna include it in the iPad and maybe the MacBook?

I am still doubting it. Just look how long it took Apple to release an OLED iPhone which did not even make it on its whole line up yet
The Apple Watch doesn't need a backlight. MiniLED is backlighting. Apple avoided most of the trial and error of OLED by waiting until Samsung had matured their tech enough to make it viable for iPhones. I have lived through the evolution of the Galaxy line and the improvements of OLED. What we have today ain't what we had back in the day.

I have said for years when Apple debuts MicroLED it will be in the Apple watch, just like they did with OLED before putting it in the iPhone.
 
god I hope mini-led spur them to get rid of the rounded screen corners. With mini-led they could render software-based rounded screen corners that are fully 100% black, and then individual apps could choose to display those round corners or not.
I think you have mini-LED confused with microLED. MicroLED is more like OLED where each pixel can be lit up/turned off and has 100% black. Mini-LED is not at the pixel level and does not have 100% black.
 
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MacRumors, please correct your lack of physics knowledge. All electromagnetic radiation travels at the same speed in any given medium. To say that mmWave is faster or slower is simply incorrect. Higher frequencies can hold more information, but they don't travel faster.
Yeah, you're right.

But I think that by "sub-6GHz 5G is generally slower than mmWave" he meant "sub-6GHz 5G has generally slower data bitrate transmission than mmWave", the idea is correct, only the words weren't very accurate.
 
This would be a great update—a day 1 purchase for me.

but what’s holding the iPad back is the software. Software is the Achilles heel of Apple.
 
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If this is true then they should never have launched this year’s model.It was such a tiny upgrade.
 
Still baffled why Apple picking miniLED, which is still old LCD with slightly better black levels, when all other makers abandoning LCD for OLED, it’s going to look bad when all laptops/tablets have OLED but Apple still with LCD



https://www.oled-info.com/dscc-oled-revenues-q1-2020-were-67-billion-will-reach-33-billion-2020

Apple knows something that we do not or they would not be sinking $330 MILLION dollars into micro-LED - https://www.macrumors.com/2020/06/01/apple-invests-330-million-taiwan-micro-led/ - with existing mini-LED tech serving as a bit of a stopgap for them until micro-LED becomes financially feasible.
 
Apple knows something that we do not or they would not be sinking $330 MILLION dollars into micro-LED - https://www.macrumors.com/2020/06/01/apple-invests-330-million-taiwan-micro-led/ - with existing mini-LED tech serving as a bit of a stopgap for them until micro-LED becomes financially feasible.
Apple knows the same thing all the other manufacturers know. MicroLED R&D is going full bore by pretty much all the major and minor players in display technology. I think the consensus in the industry is MicroLED is the future of display tech.

I also think MiniLED is a stopgap on the way to MicroLED. I think Apple is further enough along with their MicroLED R&D where they look at MiniLED as an acceptable placeholder allowing them to forego OLED in iPads and iMacs.
 
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This would be a big refresh. I'd probably jump in and retire my 5th gen iPad.

I'm really wondering what Apple will do when they manage to integrate the modem into their processors, will they dump the 2 versions (wifi vs. cellular) and make all iPads cellular enabled? Or will they have a software block to disable the modem on some models?
I think they’d still have two models. Unlikely that they put the 5G stuff on the same die as the rest, so it would be in the MCM. And those chips are large (and thus costly), so no reason to include them if the customer doesn’t want the functionality.
 
I think you have mini-LED confused with microLED. MicroLED is more like OLED where each pixel can be lit up/turned off and has 100% black. Mini-LED is not at the pixel level and does not have 100% black.

No, MiniLED has a ton of local dimming zones where very small areas of backlight can be turned off individually to create near perfect blacks the same as oled can. The zones aren't as small as in microLED, but they'd be plenty small enough for blacking out the corner of the screen.

 
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MacRumors, please correct your lack of physics knowledge. All electromagnetic radiation travels at the same speed in any given medium. To say that mmWave is faster or slower is simply incorrect. Higher frequencies can hold more information, but they don't travel faster.
They said the technology is faster, not that the radiation travels faster. It takes less time to transmit the same amount of information, hence faster.
 
Do you guys think the USB-C port on this upcoming iPad Pro is going to support USB4 at 40 Gbps? Intel's upcoming Tiger Lake CPUs - which are coming out in the second half of 2020 - will have native support for USB4.

Also, seeing how the LED displays of the current iPad Pro lineup support up to 600 nits of brightness, is it realistic to expect the upcoming Mini LED display to support DisplayHDR 1000 at 1,000 nits?
 
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No, MiniLED has a ton of local dimming zones where very small areas of backlight can be turned off individually to create perfect blacks the same as oled can. The zones aren't as small as in microLED, but they'd be plenty small enough for blacking out the corner of the screen.

Marketing tricked you man. MiniLEDs still suffer from nasty blooming. It’s basically a bandaid for the obsolete LCD tech, but hey Apple gets to reap them margins.
 
Marketing tricked you man. MiniLEDs still suffer from nasty blooming. It’s basically a bandaid for the obsolete LCD tech, but hey Apple gets to reap them margins.

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miniLEDs allow precise dimming without producing LED backlight issues such as “blooming” (aka “halo effect”).

 
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I would love to switch to an iPad Pro for good, but there's still these few apps (audio/photo) I need on macOS.

If Apple manages to make macOS apps run in iPadOS and/or give software editors a way to code once, deploy on all devices, then I'm sold.
I also need better external screen support (no vertical black bands and being an extension, not just mirroring the iPad screen)
 
MacRumors, please correct your lack of physics knowledge. All electromagnetic radiation travels at the same speed in any given medium. To say that mmWave is faster or slower is simply incorrect. Higher frequencies can hold more information, but they don't travel faster.
They were talking about data speeds, not photon speeds. Unless you are talking to someone on the moon or farther out, photon speeds are not an issue.
 
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