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"Who wants a stylus? You got to get them, and put them away, and you lose them ... Yuck!" ... SJ


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yet styluses are a big third party market for the iOS devices.

I agree w Steve from days back announcement. Nowadays we need both stylus AND finger response screens. If you have to choose like they had to do when SJ announced it THEN finger is always the way to go so as to not have the screen suffer. Remember those PCs that had a stylus and you could see squares on the screen?/resolutions/etc yuck!

I loved my HP iPAQ stylus in the early 2000s, but it was the only way to access the screen or using the physical buttons only.
 
I see a lot of people asking for OS X on the iPad instead of iOS. Is there a benefit of OS X that cannot be technically done by developers or Apple on iOS software wise?
 
This will be a nice product to penetrate the corporate world. Remember the partnership with IBM; they will develop some apps that will run on this thing.
Call it stylus, or any other magical apple name, this will be it if it really allows you to easily write like you will do with a regular pencil or pen. Take notes like you would with a piece of paper. Sketch things easily.
Now Apple or IBM to bring some killer Apps to catalyst 3D printing adoption, and there you have it. Anyone can run their professional business with one of this iPad Pro plus IBM corporate solutions and some nice 3D printers.
 
October 2015? Let's see. . . . If Apple released iPad Air 2 in around October 2014 and then most Authorized Apple Reseller in Indonesia started selling it in around March 2015, I must wait for about six months to get it (if I'm so patient that I'm not going to Singapore to buy yet another new iDevice). Probably many Indonesian people will enjoy iPad Pro in around March to June 2016. I think I will definitely buy it as long as it supports not only handwriting recognition for English, but also for Indonesian language, and native apple software to write text (instead of goodnotes, or any other writing softwares developed by non Apple for iDevices). Hopefully by releasing legitimate stylus, iPad Pro with the stylus will be much better than iPad Air 2 combined with Adonit Jot Script 2 and goodnotes functionally and economically.
 
I could see Apple doing away with the Macbook Air line of notebooks in favor of a hybrid device, much like the MS Surface Pro. Since the Macbook is now thinner, lighter and has the retina display, it sort of pushes the Macbook Air out of the lineup. So, instead, Apple could offer this 12.9" iPad looking device that runs both iOS and OS X with a touch layer. I believe Apple licensed the type-cover to MS, so that could be an option for a physical keyboard / trackpad.

Maybe it's just me wanting a Surface Pro 3 device, but don't want MS or Windows....
 
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I see a lot of people asking for OS X on the iPad instead of iOS. Is there a benefit of OS X that cannot be technically done by developers or Apple on iOS software wise?
Yes this is what I want to know. What do people need OS X on a tablet for? One the software is not optimized for touch and two we've seen no rumors or indications that this larger iPad will be running an Intel processor or that OS X was ported to ARM.
 
I could see Apple doing away with the Macbook Air line of notebooks in favor of a hybrid device, much like the MS Surface Pro. Since the Macbook is now thinner, lighter and has the retina display, it sort of pushes the Macbook Air out of the line. So, instead, Apple could offer this 12.9" iPad looking device that runs both iOS and OS X with a touch layer. I believe Apple licensed the type-cover to MS, so that could be an option for a physical keyboard / trackpad.

Maybe it's just me wanting a Surface Pro 3 device, but don't want MS or Windows....
If Apple was going to do that why wouldn't they have done it with the MacBook?
 
I'm not sure why so many are calling this a niche product.

The Surface Pro 3 alone has generated $1.1 Billion in sales for MS since it's release last year. The rumored Surface Pro 4 with Skylake might be announced in the next few weeks for an October launch so I'm not surprised in the least that we might see an iPad pro with stylus soon.

Btw, before the obligatory slamming of anything from Microsoft, the Surface Pro 3 is making real in-roads in post-secondary schools. I've seen it first hand. College and University profs are now teaching around the OneNote platform as it basically eliminates the need for students to buy and carry around textbooks. Students take notes on their Surface Pro, annotate textbooks and PDF's, record lectures, organize their notes, ask the prof questions within OneNote without having to schedule office appointments...etc.

Considering the value Apple places on the Education market, I'm looking forward to seeing their Surface Pro 4 killer.
 
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Yes this is what I want to know. What do people need OS X on a tablet for? One the software is not optimized for touch and two we've seen no rumors or indications that this larger iPad will be running an Intel processor or that OS X was ported to ARM.
To have a real portable device that can run any app from any OS.
 
If Apple was going to do that why wouldn't they have done it with the MacBook?

Probably because the Macbook has always been known as the low end of the laptop spectrum for Apple, and the Air was introduced as a "different kind" of laptop. Apple could view the Air as a new type of computing, allowing the Macbook to come back as the entry level laptop.
 
So you would like more App availability of software that are now only on OS X/Windows/Linux etc.?
I want it to be capable to run any software I have already from Mac OS 1 up to 9, DOS, Windows, Linux, OS X and iOS plus full internet navigation/gaming/form filling.
Currently with my Mac I can run everything except iOS apps.
 
Probably because the Macbook has always been known as the low end of the laptop spectrum for Apple, and the Air was introduced as a "different kind" of laptop. Apple could view the Air as a new type of computing, allowing the Macbook to come back as the entry level laptop.
So your high end and entry level are traditional laptops but the middle is a hybrid device? Makes no sense to me.
 
I want it to be capable to run any software I have already from Mac OS 1 up to 9, DOS, Windows, Linux, OS X and iOS plus full internet navigation/gaming/form filling.
Currently with my Mac I can run everything except iOS apps.
What iOS only app(s) would you want to run on your Mac?
 
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I personally think that the iPad Pro won't appeal the mass market: it's just too large to operate as a comfortable hand-held device. Therefore, this is mostly a niche item for professional use in mind. So, basically, it's the equivalent of the Mac Pro or Macbook Pro 17" to the tablet space.

I am surprised Apple (a mass-market company) is releasing such a niche item. At the end of the day, they discontinued the 17" MBP.

It is a very important product, it will eventually progress in more powerfull apps/software for ios, and in the long run allow apple to ditch intel/amd and use their own socs/cpu' s based on ARM in their macs.

Less dependance on intel, improve margins/revenues for Apple.
 
I love my iPad, use it heavily for work, but not exclusively.

The concept of the iPad pro intrigues me:

1. It couldn't be much larger or heavier than the air. Portability is critical. I understand it will be bigger to a certain extent, but I hope Apple uses a lot of the bezel.

2. A stylus could be interesting. Perhaps it has a storage hole that charges it instead of plugging it into the lightening connector. a stylus hanging out of the bottom of an iPad is not an elegant solution.

I hope Apple realizes that for the iPad family to truly live up to its promise and start growing again, the limiter is the software. Yes, part third party enterprise apps. But the OS is a gating hinderance to workflow—document management and iWork most notably—along with missing apps like a solid calculator. In general, Apple needs to look at all the built-in apps and explore how to make great native iPad experiences for these apps—not just bigger versions of their iPhone siblings.

And finally, good innovative developers with iPhone apps are rapidly changing their views of the App store from a business to a hobby or side project. This is doubly true for iPad apps where the market is smaller. Apple needs to find a way to make their closed ecosystem pay for great independent developers. They learned the hard way in the 90's and early 2000's that being reliant on MS, Adobe, Intuit, et al., is a dangerous position to be in.
 
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All of them.

That's too vague though and will not help developers on either platform understand the needs of the market. Please be specific as there are a lot of developers that read these threads to improve what they're doing and deliver what the market needs.

What is the convenience that you see on iOS that you like to see on OS X? and Vice versa?

What are the main strong points of Apps on iOS that you feel is missing on OS X?

Etc.
 
That's too vague though and will not help developers on either platform understand the needs of the market. Please be specific as there are a lot of developers that read these threads to improve what they're doing and deliver what the market needs.

What is the convenience that you see on iOS that you like to see on OS X? and Vice versa?

What are the main strong points of Apps on iOS that you feel is missing on OS X?

Etc.
The main driver is money, I already paid for an App or Game I don't want to paid for it again. I'm not being vague, I'm serious about wanting all that is available to be able to run it on a Mac. Porting and redeveloping may be your line of business but it's not necessarily what I want. I don't want to pay for the same software a second time.
Secondly some iOS Apps are easy to use: for example instead of navigating to a bank website, I have the iOS App that was approved by Apple and there is minimal potential for landing on the wrong site with the bowser, and reduce potential malware and hacking, same for other websites.
Some quick examples: WhatsApp messaging; Duolingo; plenty games like Star Wars Commander, Angry Birds, Pirates! Atari, etc
 
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I just sincerely hope that it isn't just an iPad Air 2 with Force Touch and a bigger display. We need something different and compelling, not only that, but it needs to run an iOS/OS X hybrid. An inflated iOS just won't cut it, even with the new multitasking and split screen features.

If you need every feature of OS X it sounds like you need a laptop.

'I want a bike. But it must have an engine. And a roof, because I don't want to get wet. And it must seat 5 with room for luggage so I can take my family on holiday. No,
I don't want a car I WANT A BIKE.'
 
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