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no multitask?

I like to listen to my radio station that is streaming from the other side of the Atlantic when I surf the web or take care of my emails. My Android phone can do this. Why not the new iPad?

Steffen
 
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As for the hardware, 'crippled' is a word that springs to mind. No digital out, let alone HDMI, means that it's not really worth hooking up to bigger monitors. Why VGA in 2010??

from the apple specs: "Support for 1024 x 768 with Dock Connector to VGA adapter; 576p and 480p with Apple Component A/V Cable, 576i and 480i with Apple Composite Cable"

am i misunderstanding something?
 
Just watching the keynote podcast, wasn't Jobs demonstrating that iPad without any sort of cable connection?

When the iPhone came out they had to have a cable and special board in the thing to achieve display on the projection screens.

Does this mean that wireless external screen support is hiding somewhere inside this machine?

EDIT - Nope, I was wrong. Saw the cable when he turned it sideways.
 
Maybe I'm just able to understand the product but I LOVE the iPad so far. I'm confused how people were "let down" today. :confused: It's a tablet. There isn't much I could think of we'd want it to be. Don't get me wrong, it's not perfect but it's good enough that I have already decided that I'm ditching my iPhone for one.

If you had your hopes up for a full OS X to be on here then you just set the bar and your ideas too high. Honestly, we watch/listen to our media on the go. Check email. Browse the web. Look at photos. We do that now from our phones but Apple took it a step further. Is it a big iPhone? It's a tablet, it was gonna look like an iPhone and yeah, the fact it runs a modified iPhone OS on it makes people see it as an iPhone. But the iPhone OS has the games on it while we all know that OS X doesn't have those games. So you'd just have people upset that their apps won't port over.

It's fast and larger than my iPhone. Nearly all the apps I have will run on it. It will get a huge following in my field (medicine) since the iPhone apps are already so dang prominent. Hugely portable and fits my lifestyle pretty well, otherwise I'd have looked at the MB Air. I can connect my media card to it and import photos from my DSLR... Should have just put a USB on it, even a mini, so we could connect cameras and printers to it but...

I'd like to see a hack that lets me use it as an additional screen while docked to the computer. :cool:
 
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CONS:

-No camera on front or back (how could they leave this out when iPhones & Macbooks both have cameras? biggest disappointment.
couldn't agree more

...(as far as we know, we can't use iPad as a phone yet. why not? it's fully capable.
do we know that's true? is the mere presence of a MicroSim all that's required for that statement to be true?

...-No wireless syncing with iTunes
so what syncs and what doesn't? mail? photos? bookmarks? contacts? calendars? I'm not sure what you're pointing out here. I thought they'd all sync (using MobileMe) just as my MBP syncs. No?
 
People here don't have a realistic grasp of what this device is actually about.

It's not another macbook. It's a full screen reader for all the commonly used applications that most people would want, on the go.

You can read your email, read the news on the web, read a book, check your calendar appointments, play cool games.

If you wanted multi tasking, get a macbook. I know I have held my MBA at the park by the screen reading emails and looking at photos wishing it didnt have a keyboard in the way. The iPad would've been perfect for that. I'm not going to use it to go through my Numbers or Pages. I would then wish I had a keyboard for that to multi task and use shortcuts.

The technological recipe for this was perfect for the application. It doesn't need a superfast CPU. It doesn't need to multitask. It will be great to be able to do all the things I need to do whilst riding on public transport to work. The improvements from here will be improving the interface. I'd like to see tactile feedback on the screen inputs, more gesture recognition etc.

I guess iFailPad isn't for you iDorks. Get back in yer box! :p
 
Who would enjoy the iPad? There is no reason to own one. It appeals to nobody.

You don't speak for everybody. You can speak for yourself, so don't make comments like that.


I will get this instead of Kindle DX. I have no problem reading ebooks on LCD all day long, and this will provide me with more functions than a single function Kindle DX will. Having all my technical resources (especially with Safari Books Online), PDFs, whitepapers, emails and so on will make this product a much better than carrying my MBP around. I don't need a keyboard, i just want something to read and something that can do more than just read books. I want to be able to copy and paste from my resources into an email or note for my work and so on.
 
Damn, I have never seen nerds being that pissed since the introduction of the iPhone. And the iPod.

Tell me about it... It was as if the TempleOfMac had crashed on their heads. The Zealots are crying blasphemy. Or mayeb they really need to get a new iTampon as most sound like they're on a heavy day!
 
You don't speak for everybody. You can speak for yourself, so don't make comments like that.


I will get this instead of Kindle DX. I have no problem reading ebooks on LCD all day long, and this will provide me with more functions than a single function Kindle DX will. Having all my technical resources (especially with Safari Books Online), PDFs, whitepapers, emails and so on will make this product a much better than carrying my MBP around. I don't need a keyboard, i just want something to read and something that can do more than just read books. I want to be able to copy and paste from my resources into an email or note for my work and so on.

+1. The Kindle DX is in big trouble.
 
I'm personally disappointed at the ipad announcement.

But it doesn't mean it's not a bad product at all. I'm personally disappointed as I was hoping it would be something I would buy.

The ipad seems like it fills the market between the ipod touch and iphone. As a owner of a iphone 3GS; even with the ipad superior processing power, larger/better screen, and iBook store I found little incentive to upgrade to the ipad. It feels like a incremental upgrade in functionality from what I already have.

Sure, someone who doesn't already own an iPhone or iPod Touch would find this product perfect...

I was hoping for a more capable system in more open network (Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile?), atleast 1 USB port? Built in memory cards reader? Multitasking?

Speaking about multitasking what annoys me about the iphone/touch now is that when you're in safari and loading a page; then switch to another app, the download pauses! Would be great if the page finishes loading in the background so when I come back it's done!

A4 chip? Looks like the next candidate for the next iphone! Why not? The Nexus 1 from Google is using a 1ghz snapdragon... A4 @ 1ghz should more than a worthy answer to the nexus.

I like to de-duplicate my gadgets and start consolidating; ipad doesnt help me with that goal. I still have to lug around a laptop when i travel. =/

pad ipad, you had so much potential. maybe iphone os 4.0 will make it more competent.

Perhaps there is still another thing in the horizon... islate??? A more competent mac tablet?
 
I see iPad as the type of device that will gradually infiltrate the world and eventually become a serious viable computing option for many people.

I'll skip all the "pro" parts. It's obviously a fun device, fairly portable, intuitive, and can appeal to a sizable "niche" market where people only need the basic tasks with their computer.

But it's not very immediately useful or essential for many of us who already own laptops (or even netbooks if you will). It doesn't quite cut it as a reading device as it's still LED (but the latest technology still doesn't offer anything good in that department, anyway). Unless you like watching movies in the bathroom, I don't see it as a great movie theater either. And most importantly, it doesn't run OS X, let alone Windows, which WAS expected, but is still a major obstacle. Not performance-wise (iPad OS seems really fast), but resource-wise, investment-wise, especially if you don't own an iPhone (even if you do, actually). You need a big motivation to start a whole new game from scratch, and I don't know if this device as it is really offers it. More "blurring" of the lines may be necessary on the OS side for iPad to be a (or THE) major player. OS X and iPhone/iPad OS are still a little too far apart.

Having said that, I do see a place for iPad in the future, a BIG place. This is just the beginning of a beginning, so to speak.
 
ok i think i may wait until a 2nd gen comes out with lesser bezel because that is rediculous.

Is there some scientific basis for it being ridiculous or it just offends you sensibilities somehow?


1. Folks need to securely grip the device. There needs to be a place for the thumb to grip that will not interfere with or cause spurious input to the touch sensors.

2. The glass over the display is much heavier than the glass over an 4" screen. Likewise with a case that thin it will be subject to torque forces that are also larger than a 4" device. How much of that bezel is due to physical and/or structural constraints is open to question.

3. As the Apple video points out there is no "up" / "down" or correct orientation of the device. (actually there is to some extent because the home button and dock connector are on one side, but when being handled free in space and just interacting with screen... ) So each side could be primary grip point. (which gets you a uniformly thick bezel around all of the sides. )



It is a device meant to be held. Not gaped at from afar. When you get your hands on one, pick it up with one hand and then note where all your fingers are. If pick it up from a corner see what its response to the torque is.
 
I like to listen to my radio station that is streaming from the other side of the Atlantic when I surf the web or take care of my emails. My Android phone can do this. Why not the new iPad?

You get 10 hours of doing that out of you Andriod phone?

Additionally, Apple just recently bought a music streaming company. Apple applications aren't as blocked from the no multitasking restrictions as 3rd party apps are... That wasn't the finished version of the system that was on display.
 
I was hoping for a more capable system in more open network (Verizon, Sprint, T-Mobile?)
Honestly, I doubt Apple would of had the clout to get the data plan price lowered if they weren't exclusive. This is like making a deal with the devil you know.

atleast 1 USB port?
What do you think the dock connection is? They have adapters.

Built in memory cards reader?
An adapter for this too if you don't mind carrying one.

Multitasking?
I seriously doubt we'll see multitasking in Mobile OS X for a while. It took them two years to get copy and paste right. Multitasking is a far more serious issue that will take longer to adapt to such a device.

A4 chip? Looks like the next candidate for the next iphone! Why not? The Nexus 1 from Google is using a 1ghz snapdragon... A4 @ 1ghz should more than a worthy answer to the nexus.
Why not? Potentially power consumption problems. We'll have to see. I wouldn't be surprised if Apple's PA Semi acquisition starts to pay off though.

Perhaps there is still another thing in the horizon... islate??? A more competent mac tablet?
If you want Mac OS X in tablet form just buy a modified macbook. Apple will never release such a device because they have completely failed in the market (just look at Windows tablets over the last decade).

Pretty much the only thing that left me disappointed was no printing (as far as I could see) and no camera. I can live without the camera but the whole no printing thing leaves me scratching my head. Whats the point of iWork with no print support?
 
For about 70% of my relatives, the iPad is the only computer they will ever need.

Except that they'll need a "real" computer to sync it to, and install updates, print anything, etc.
I had really hoped that it would be little more like a proper computer, not full-blown OS-X, but something I'd sync my iPhone TO rather than another thing to sync to my Mac.
I could see a tablet like this as my main computer used in conjunction with Apple's Time Capsule for Wifi, storage, backup, and printing.
 
No Multitasking. Only one application runs at a time according to official documentation.

Somebody should tell the folks at Apple that this is the year 2010 not 1985!

Since the tablet cannot multitask, I can't listen to music while I am typing up a note.
 
Somebody should tell the folks at Apple that this is the year 2010 not 1985!

Since the tablet cannot multitask, I can't listen to music while I am typing up a note.

Well you can listen to the iPod app (that'll run in the background), but won't be able to listen to the Pandora app.

Still its pathetic that they didnt include multitasking. Hell they didnt change anything...its just iPhone 3.2 with re-written core apps!
 
If this is "best the thing that " SJ has done then I'm feeling very sorry for him.

A giant Touch isn't ground breaking.. the future applications and content will make or break this device.

OSX future - dashboard: I can imagine the ability to run mobile OSX apps inside OSX. Run the same apps as you do on your Apple mobile device.

Web browsing: No SJ, this is not the best browsing experience ever if I can't experience the entire web content - namely Flash. Flash is here, and here to stay. HTML 5 will provide functionality of Flash, but Flash is not static, Flash will expand on existing functionality, and keep ahead of HTML 5. Flash is a de-facto web standard. Like it or not.

I'm sure this device will sell well. However, at the moment, without iPad specific applications, I do not see the market place. The existing iPhone / Touch applications do not ( of course ) serve the full potential of the iPad.

The price is good.

Please Apple, improve on the home screen!

iChat - who really uses iChat / AOL messenging. Apple would far better off in partnering up with Skype to provide a full featured iPad client. I would imagine more people use Skype for web conferencing than iChat / AOL.

I'm very sure the iPad will make a great gaming platform from day 1.

This is definitely not the end of the PC. PCs (laptops / existing tablets ) can do so much more than the iPad.

For me - I have a Touch and a Laptop - why do I need this? But then, that is just me... every one has their needs and requirements.

No multi-tasking... well, almost everyone has commented this as a negative ( apart from weak excuses - i.e., doctors )
 
...Or mayeb they really need to get a new iTampon as most sound like they're on a heavy day!

I've ignored the previous ten posts with variations on Tampon jokes, figuring if you don't give middle schoolers attention, sometimes they shut up. But geez, you DO realize this joke was first made months ago, so a) it's not original, and b) it's not funny? I have daughters. I've had a wife. "Pad" and "Tampon" have no magic hold on me, and don't on almost any adult. Are you going to make a toilet paper "joke" every time it's mentioned newspapers are looking for ways to exploit Apple's new product?

end of rant

now for something a little different (Monty Python, "nudge, nudge" sketch):

Man: Oh. (leeringly) Still, mooooooh, ay? Mwoohohohohoo, ay? Hohohohohoho, ay? (insert tampon joke here!)

Squire: Look... are you insinuating something?

Man: Oh, no, no, no...yes.

Squire: Well?

Man: Well, you're a man of the world, squire.

Squire: Yes...

Man: I mean, you've been around a bit, you know, like, you've, uh.... You've "done it"....

Squire: What do you mean?

Man: Well, I mean like,....you've SLEPT, with a lady....

Squire: Yes....

Man: What's it like?
 
I still question the practicality of this.... And it looks horrendously ugly, I mean seriously, look at that gigantic bezel... And no multitasking? I'dn't be surprised if this took off though. Somehow 'twill be revolutionary...
 
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