iPad Tech Specs: Cortex A8, 256MB Ram, PowerVR SGX 535

[NT1440]

He implied it without saying it and referenced a technology which makes use of it's limited resources and that's fine. But in this case actually bigger is better concerning memory.

You're taking what you want to see from that statement. When I first read it I thought it was more about people with no actual knowledge just spouting what others have said.

You still put words in his mouth, and still refuse to acknowledge he never actually made that statement. Is manning up and apologizing really that tough?

 

[sinsin07]

Most of those people believe it has magical properties and it's memory management can be attributed to fairy dust.

LMAO

I'd feel better about society if he was saving up for college instead of for expensive toys.

Maybe he does not have to save for college, maybe he has funding and part of the deal is extras like this he has to work for.

 

[tdream]

You're taking what you want to see from that statement. When I first read it I thought it was more about people with no actual knowledge just spouting what others have said.

You still put words in his mouth, and still refuse to acknowledge he never actually made that statement. Is manning up and apologizing really that tough?

I guess we're seeing it in different ways. I'm assuming we're going to have to agree to disagree.

 

[NT1440]

I guess we're seeing it in different ways. I'm assuming we're going to have to agree to disagree.

He never said 256 is better than 512. You can't agree on that?

 

[ouimetnick]

Uh-huh, and did the Dell run on batteries? were you able to carry it with you? Did it run a CPU optimized for low power consumption? Was the software and OS optimized for compact code?

I have an old Microsoft version of Word that fit completely on a single 800K floppy... even then bloatware was going strong. All the RAM and hardware specs we have come to define a bare minimum system do not apply or cross-compare with the iPad, so just get over it and grow a brain.

Did you find it necessary to attack that post? how about me saying that the laptop my brother bought in 2004 for school had 512Mb Ram and Windoze XP. Yes, it could be carried every where, and he got 2 hours of battery life. Remember thats 6 years ago. the point is if it costs Apple $5.00 to at 512MB ram, why are they that cheap? I know they want us to spend $500 next year for the next iPad, but come on.

 

[Eidorian]

I guarantee apple is not making a profit on the 499 units directly.

You must factor in all costs, not just the cost of the hardware components.

iSuppli is fun to show off but it's not the entire story. I know there are still certain hidden costs associated beyond the hardware price. Still, the entire ecosystem is setup to encourage you to pay a toll to do a lot of things with the iPad. I'd rather not participate in a lot of Apple's hardware and software activities. OR any other one for that matter.

Build a better life by frugal living. It's disturbing to see the worship of greed, profits, and possessions.

 

[kernkraft]

Steve Jobs says its better than a netbook. The dudes at the Apple Store say its a netbook killer.

Obviously, Mr. Jobs (is he the guy wearing white trainers and black turtlenecks all the time?) didn't mean specs. Or functions. Or the OS. Or the need for accessories. Or the price...

Surprise, surprise, the dudes were wrong. But wouldn't be great, if the dudes at the Apple Store said:

Oh yes, of course, it's not better than a netbook. That's why we have the MacBook Nano. Which colour do you want, sir? (I'd want the green one.)

Why do people always assume that if someone is not willing to pay a certain price for something that they can't afford it? I refuse to pay $10 for a mango, doesn't mean that I don't have $10 to spare.

Thanks a lot! So many people cannot understand that you might have no money issue and still some criticism about the iPad. Personally, I can provide proof of spending over $20.000 (£13.000) on Apple hardware in the last four years.

 

[Rocketman]

Forsaking Flash and 2+ background apps vastly reduces the memory requirement.

To 256mb.

Rocketman

"Build a better life by frugal living. It's disturbing to see the worship of greed, profits, and possessions." - Eidorian

 

[tdream]

He never said 256 is better than 512. You can't agree on that?

I already said he didn't say that. I said he implied it.

 

[ouimetnick]

Depends on your perspective. It is cheap to me.

To a 13 year old living with mom and dad and mowing yards it might as well be a Mercedes

Well $500 is expensive. Unless you are rich like Steve Jobs, and on't really understand that much about money. $500 is a lot for me, and my parents.

 

[NT1440]

I already said he didn't say that. I said he implied it.

Man, you REALLY hate being wrong don't you?

Do you really think anyone here is going to say that they'd rather have 256 mb over 512? What you call "fanboyism" is people seeing the device, noting how it runs very fast doing what it's supposed to do, and not thinking it's the end of the world that there is only 256.

 

[Lershac]

Corporations receive huge tax incentives for donating to charities/nonprofits and social causes. All which affect the bottom line in a positive way for their shareholders.

Those incentives never fully offset the donation. The donation always has a negative impact to he bottom line.

 

[AidenShaw]

*cough* Cocoa *cough*

The problem over the years has been coding bloat and total inefficiency in programming.

Do you not believe that moving to OO frameworks like Cocoa instead of Carbon (and .NET instead of Win32) are major contributors to increased memory footprints and CPU usage?

OO is a big advance, but even most of its proponents will admit that it causes problems in resource-constrained environments. (But, CPUs are faster now and memory is cheaper - so it's a good thing to let the silicon improve the programming environment.)

 

[miketheannoyed]

Depends on your perspective. It is cheap to me.

To a 13 year old living with mom and dad and mowing yards it might as well be a Mercedes

Compared to things like netbooks and laptops it is expensive. I can get a netbook with 2GB of Ram for less than $500

 

[jimmyjoemccrow]

Oh, alright, the specs is _everything_ ... the end user experience does not matter at all as long as the ipad got more than 256Mb ram...

WTF is wrong with people?

My nexus one has faaar better hardware than my iphone but the nexus one still feels more laggy overall, the browser is slower, the graphics is worse.

But this does not matter because my nexus got more ram than my iphone, a faster processor.

OR.... what really matter is how fast it is in your hands.

Here is the reason specs matter. This guy is claiming that the browser is slower on the Nexus One. All the benchmarks I have seen put the Nexus One ahead. Benchmarks. Where people take the time to make the conditions as close as possible so they can eliminate variables and be sure that some other factor isn't influencing the results. People like Bosep here will grab whatever facts they can to support whatever theory they want to be true and will ignore facts that don't support that theory. If his iPhone had been browsing on wireless and his Nexus One on 3G he would give the Nexus One as the cause instead of the crappy 3G.

The 256MB of RAM is disappointing because thats the same amount an iPhone has. Better games and applications can't depend on the CPU and GPU alone. The device is meant to be a netbook killer but it's specs are those of a smartphone. The iPad apps are meant to offer more functionality than the iPhone ones and with only 256MB of RAM they are limited in the amount of extra functions they can offer. A faster CPU and GPU can only run existing functions at a faster rate. They can make some functions possible that wouldn't be available on an iPhone but still the RAM limitation will place a restriction on how big apps can be and waste the potential that the faster CPU and GPU offer.

 

[wizard]

How foolish we are.

here we are again, watching people just looking at the specs of something instead of actually using it.

Most of the people complaining are users.

Have heard people putting it down for reading books with "well, it has an LCD, that's just not as good as E-ink for reading" instead of using it. Now we have "oh, it only has 256megs of RAM, that's not enough" "oh, it's only using one core...that's not enough".

Wishing it was enough isn't the answer either. After all you do sound like the geeks that ran around saying 640K was enough.

If you look at the specs all day instead of actually trying it out, of course it's going to fall short.

It falls short during use what more do you want?

Also, the opposite phenom happens when you get something with stellar specs on paper, but then it just of doesn't live up to those specs at all.

Just use it. Stop being geeks for 5 minutes.

Err I would but I just changed tabs. Waiting for reload. Waiti……………

It isn't about being a geek rather it is the frustration of having to deal with a problem solved a long time ago. Like it or not things that are acceptable on the iPhone are not acceptable on iPad. Different use cases imply different expectations.


Dave

 

[millertime021]

Can I have a browser with 40 tabs open, be composing email, doing a background compile, and playing video in another window?

You would never need to do that on an iPhone, or more than likely an iPad.

So there really isn't a reason for them to be able to do that. And if you are butt hurt about the iPad not being able to do that, then just don't buy one.

 

[littlegreymen12]

Yup

You're taking what you want to see from that statement. When I first read it I thought it was more about people with no actual knowledge just spouting what others have said.

You still put words in his mouth, and still refuse to acknowledge he never actually made that statement. Is manning up and apologizing really that tough?

Yeah were on the same page...Ive been wrong before its ok. Just say that you misunderstood me and no hard feelings its cool....really getting tired of the back and forth

I didnt know the Ipad browser had some issue..but again, Ive never been on a single device that has a browser that works flawless..

 

[kernkraft]

this thread absolutely makes me cringe...

the iPad was an amazing device 4 hours ago...mindblowing in fact.

4 hours on its lame, slow, outdated by other devices, not enough ram, even though 4 hours ago it wasnt an issue...at all! and now its not even future-proof...

pathetic...

The phenomenon is called 'hype'. But you are wrong to assume that everybody liked this thing then. For Apple, it's still "magical and revolutionary", so they must be right.

So the iPad has less ram than many of the middle-end android phones coming out today. Don't get your hopes up for user-selectable multitasking down the line people.

I just didn't want to paraphrase this or get the message lost.

 

[littlegreymen12]

agreed again

Man, you REALLY hate being wrong don't you?

Do you really think anyone here is going to say that they'd rather have 256 mb over 512? What you call "fanboyism" is people seeing the device, noting how it runs very fast doing what it's supposed to do, and not thinking it's the end of the world that there is only 256.

Agreed again....lol

I would love for it to have more RAM hell yeah!!! but it works just fine as is...Why I bought it

 

[tdream]

Man, you REALLY hate being wrong don't you?

Do you really think anyone here is going to say that they'd rather have 256 mb over 512? What you call "fanboyism" is people seeing the device, noting how it runs very fast doing what it's supposed to do, and not thinking it's the end of the world that there is only 256.

But I'm not wrong

I don't get people saying Apple choose 256MB because of all the R&D, because it doesn't need anymore, because they know what they are doing (they most certainly do). What I am trying to say which is really quite simple 512MB>256MB. Yet the protestation in this thread would have people believe otherwise.

 

[bbydon]

If it works well, then what does it matter. It works great! Its smooth and scales perfectly. The apps work, 3d games render....

 

[NT1440]

But I'm not wrong

I don't get people saying Apple choose 256MB because of all the R&D, because it doesn't need anymore, because they know what they are doing (they most certainly do). What I am trying to say which is really quite simple 512MB>256MB. Yet the protestation in this thread would have people believe otherwise.

The protests are from people like me who acknowledge that while it's a bit of a disappointment, the iPad still functions beautifully and fast.

 

[tdream]

Agreed again....lol

I would love for it to have more RAM hell yeah!!! but it works just fine as is...Why I bought it

Good then we're on the same page at last. And of course I'm going to get one too. I'm going to mainly use it as an ereader which should have no issues with RAM.

 

[ouimetnick]

Agreed again....lol

I would love for it to have more RAM hell yeah!!! but it works just fine as is...Why I bought it

Thats why I want one. They are amazing cool gadgets. But will you be slightly disappointed even if its 12 months from now, if an update brings multitalking, and your iPad is noticeably slower?And that it could have been prevented if apple allowed themselves to make $5.00 less on every iPad sold. In short adding 512MB Ram?