Not just netbooks for a lot cheaper.... The Ipad is convenient and mobile, but not a budget computer.
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iPad Tech Specs: Cortex A8, 256MB Ram, PowerVR SGX 535
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Not just netbooks for a lot cheaper.... The Ipad is convenient and mobile, but not a budget computer.
So since benchmarks show it is at least 200% faster than 3GS what should we surmise?
So to sum up:
"Here's a gear looking car,fantastic interior,wonderful handling,super safe,everything you might want.Gets 300 MPG,0-60mph in 3 sec."
"What engine does it have?"
"A 1.5L 4 cylinder"
"No WAY!Call me when you put a REAL engine in there!!"
"Here's a gear looking car,fantastic interior,wonderful handling,super safe,everything you might want.Gets 300 MPG,0-60mph in 3 sec."
"What engine does it have?"
"A 1.5L 4 cylinder"
"No WAY!Call me when you put a REAL engine in there!!"
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lol thats funny. What we should all be doing is getting on our ipads and than bash each other with 256mb of ram..
im glad we are all done fighting and now we can enjoy this beautiful device.
Good then we're on the same page at last. And of course I'm going to get one too. I'm going to mainly use it as an ereader which should have no issues with RAM.
lol thats funny. What we should all be doing is getting on our ipads and than bash each other with 256mb of ram..
im glad we are all done fighting and now we can enjoy this beautiful device.
This sort of argument is foolish. Jobs himself compared the iPad to a netbook. The guy you quoted has just listed things that he can do on a netbook that can't be done on an iPad. The lower priced device can do more things and do them better. The iPad isn't even very good at one of the tasks it was designed to do i.e. web surfing. If I wanted a simple device for web surfing that cost me more than another comparable device, I might think it a reasonable expectation that it surfed the web as well if not better than the lower priced device.
What's the torque-graph look like? What tyres? What chassis? What sort of transmission?
My classic straight six SL Mercedes is not as snappy as my BMW straight six Touring was at the time, with less bhp. But there is so much that influences cars' power-drive relationship.
But 256MB? Forget the 150 bhp! That is actually enough to pull any family car comfortably. It's more like putting 60 bhp into a VW Golf (or Rabbit,as they might call it in North America). You can fiddle with all the settings, but you will never get too much out of it. But for getting from A to B? It is suitable for that. Just don't think that because it pulls reasonably well in first and second gear, it will be any good at overtaking other cars in fifth gear.
I like how half the people here are complaining about the iPad, (it can't do this, the RAM is only how much?, no multitasking or flash, it's expensive), Apple is selling millions of them.
So really you may be upset, well then just don't buy one. But please stop bringing up the same crap over and over. Let the people who bought one enjoy it.
And no. I didn't buy one because it didn't seem worth it to me.
But to other people it may, so let them buy it. It's really simple. If they wanted a netbook with 2Gb of RAM guess what, they would have bought a Netbook and not an iPad.
So really you may be upset, well then just don't buy one. But please stop bringing up the same crap over and over. Let the people who bought one enjoy it.
And no. I didn't buy one because it didn't seem worth it to me.
But to other people it may, so let them buy it. It's really simple. If they wanted a netbook with 2Gb of RAM guess what, they would have bought a Netbook and not an iPad.
No offense, but have you ever really driven a rabbit? I hit 120mph no problem in one.
So are netbooks. So....why exactly should I spend the extra $80 over a 2GB, 1.6 GHz, 250 GB HDD netbook to get the ipad?
You're paying for those parts, yes, but you're also paying the company to put them together for you. If you don't want to deal with the fact that a company charges overhead for a service to make a profit, then you can build your own PC. Also, 15 warranties for 15 components is not equal to an Apple warranty for the whole computer. One place to go to if something goes wrong. If you ran a computer business, would you just sell computers for the price of the parts you're selling them?
Also, cheap laptops have to be replaced more often. And cheap desktops. My Mac Pro is almost 4 years old now and is just as functional as day 1. I paid a lot for it, but it rock solid reliable, both hardware- and software-wise. There are lots of old Macs on the markets. How many cheap PCs are still out there, functioning perfectly? (I actually have a 5 year old homemade PC that still works, despite my having to replace a few parts; but in general, cheap doesn't last as long.)
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I own a rabbit as well but never hit that...to scared mines a 07 looking to go GTI soon...
I own a rabbit as well but never hit that...to scared
mines a 07 looking to go GTI soon...Not flawed,just different.Is a motorcycle "flawed"because it doesn't have a roof?
Yes, it doesn't help. Doing a fresh restore, and setting it up as a new iPhone helps, but only for a week. Thats for my iPhone 3GS. But even with nothing on it, my Original iPhone was a slug on 3.0, and 3.1.2. The Apple approved app took time to open. It was so slow. I went through 4 replacements after 3.x came out due to other issues (camera crapping out, bad speaker, etc), and even after setting it up as a new phone, the issue still remained the same. My friend hasn't done any of that with his touch 1st generation, but it runs like a slug. And the 1st gen iPhone, iPhone 3G, and 1st generation iPod touch all had their processors at 412MHz and 128MB Ram. The 2nd generation iPod touch, the one you have has the same CPU, but clocked at 533MHz, and 128MB Ram. Of course the new iPod touch 3rd generation, and the iPhone 3GS have a new processor, and its clocked at 600MHz, and 256MB Ram. So your 2nd gen touch is faster because it has a faster processor than the iPod touch 1st generation, iPhone first generation, and the iPhone 3G.
Actually, computers multitask. This is not a computer. It runs iPhone OS, it has the same amount of RAM as the late-2009 iPod Touch (which has to run less pixels) and it looks like the iPod Touch with a larger screen. I'm thinking about a conclusion here...
Why does everybody keep comparing it to a laptop? its not. Its just a more capable iphone OS device. 256 of ram? it seems to work for this device, just enjoy it for what it is
So again, what is it? It looks like (I don't want to say), it has the specs as a (I don't want to say) and it costs twice as much as a (I don't want to say).
But it is no computer, that's for sure.
They are talented, that's for sure! Calling 256MB 'magical' takes a lot of talent. In marketing.
it might work great and be the best thing since 9 months ago with the iphone 3gs but with only 256mb ram I will not even consider it. Its insulting that apple sells >$1000 computers with only 2GB ram, but at least that is upgradable, this is just plain dick. They know damn well this will not run iPhone os 5.0 very well and the consumer will have to buy a new one in 2 years. forget that, I have completely lost interest.
Yes, like I said, Parts, assembly, and warranty. I'm fine paying more money than the parts are worth for a pre-built so I don't have to assemble it myself and don't have to figure out exactly which part is broken that I need to send in (Although I am considering building my next computer myself, depending on how much exactly it will save me). But I'm not paying the company for " the investment they made in software and hardware engineering," Since they didn't make the hardware themselves and if it's not a mac they didn't make the software themselves either. I don't have a clue what you meant by "the industrial design ".
A $800 laptop is not a cheap laptop though. If that broke in 2 years you were either ripped off or someone screwed it up.
It won't byte Apple in the ass. People are to ignorant of things like amount of ram. It's all about media hype and how cool it looks. Apple makes a lot of money for every iPad sold, it's only going to make them stronger. The same with the mac, it's very outdated and they sell if for a premium. They sell it at a premium even when new. So Apple is in a great position.
the PS3 has 256MB RAM + 256MB VRAM (or was it 512 shared?) and 1+ 7 cores, If I remember well, and devs were longing for 1 GB RAM before launch.
Besides, it's essentially your app alone, no OS running in the background, nada.
Anyway I like the iPad and if it's that fast as reported, kudos to Apple!
Link please... Be sure and link the sub $500 netbook with a 10" multi-touch screen, less than 1/2" thick and less than 1.5lbs.
Here is my link:
apple.com/ipad
that definition will come as a surprise to anyone who owned an IBM PC, an Apple ][, a TRS-80, a TI-99/4A, a Vic 20, a Commondore 64, a Timex Sinclair 1000, an Osborne, a....
Yes but at some point things have to start angling for more efficiency. I understand Moore's Law and it is really mind-boggling that it has essentially stayed in effect for so long, but it won't last for ever, and in some instances I think you are seeing slow downs. I think this especially becomes prevalent when you are moving to the end of technology cycle and something new has to replace it.
I don't do any coding or programming and have not for a long time. I used to program in 6502 Machine Language on the Apple II. So I can certainly appreciate how various frameworks make things much easier for programmers, but I would suggest there is still room for greater efficiency in the programming world.
I won't pretend like I am a programming expert by any stretch. I just know I have not heard developers getting bent out of shape out of this. As soon as I hear a developer with a track record decry that they can't create product "X" because of this limitation, and other known developers support that conclusion, I will take a second look.
Right now we have people jumping over the cliff, because they don't understand that everything is relative.
I realize that from a programming productivity standpoint, people can't code in assembly, but if it was the reality, don't you think programs would be significantly smaller, in almost all cases. (Of course some programs would be impossible simply due to the amount of time it would take to make them.)
I am not informed enough to the iPhone Development process to know if this is a problem or not. From everything I have seen and heard and from what I know, it does not seem to be that big of an issue. I will certainly stand corrected if people more specifically involved in iPhone development and who are credible say different.
I think the biggest sticking point is people having gotten their hopes up for wide-open multi-tasking, which is something Apple themselves have never said anything about doing. This makes people scared and skeptical that the iPad will be able to multi-task at any reasonable level. I do think that is a concern, but I can't point that to a flaw in the design of the iPad because Apple never said they were going to give us Multi-Tasking on the iPad or anything else. The usefulness of real multi-tasking besides background apps is worth very little on anything smaller than a 24" screen in my opinion. So I never cared that much about it.
Back to your programming points, I think everyone wants things to be easier to use. It is an advantage of programming tools are easier to use (ie moving to cocoa etc). However there is a real cost to that. Personally I wouldn't mind a way to do things in a more direct way, but apple is never going to provide that access, and most people will never bother programming with it.
Being realistic most people who program today would not do so or be able to do so without the tools and frameworks now available. Or maybe they would be able to, but they certainly would not want to do it.
Plus another major concern for developers is obviously portability, so that can have a big impact, and often demand the utilization of more advanced tools and frameworks. My point though, is even within those constraints, I think programmers can be more efficient and more effective. It can be easy to just do something the easy way, or not go back and tighten something up when you know there is memory to spare.