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iPad3 No Retina - Ok, Sad, Angry, Disappointed, Suicidal?
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This issue has already come up before, but I will say it again. There will be no retina display for the iPad 3 because the price for it would be too great and there wouldn't be enough power to use the retina display correctly anyway. Not even if Apple came out with an A6 chip (or whatever they're on now). Either way you look at it, there will probably not be a retina display on the iPad 3.
This issue has already come up before, but I will say it again. There will be no retina display for the iPad 3 because the price for it would be too great and there wouldn't be enough power to use the retina display correctly anyway. Not even if Apple came out with an A6 chip (or whatever they're on now). Either way you look at it, there will probably not be a retina display on the iPad 3.
I agree the phrase "Retina Display" is a bit childish, as is the name "Genius" they give to their in-store technicians, but then that's the kind of language Apple strangely seems to like so it's why I was using that phrase as we all know what it means.
Yes, I mean a higher display resolution of double what the current one is, as that seems to be what we all assume is the only practical option as LCD's don't scale very well, and iPad apps, the whole iPad, is not resolution independent.
Video's would scale fine, and background wallpaper but that's about it.
Which is why doubling in either way from 1024x768 to 2048x1536 seems to be the obvious target they will work towards.
I'm quite surprised about the apparent sudden negativity in this thread so far in respect this becoming a reality for iPad3. As I'd said previously the general "feel" I'd got from hundereds of individual postings and articles gave me a very strong impression that, excuse the phrase, "Retina Display" was very strongly expected by the general Apple Interested Public for the next model, next spring.
I'm quite taken aback by postings in their thread so far, apparently now giving the impression that it's not going to happen for iPad3.
Yes, I mean a higher display resolution of double what the current one is, as that seems to be what we all assume is the only practical option as LCD's don't scale very well, and iPad apps, the whole iPad, is not resolution independent.
Video's would scale fine, and background wallpaper but that's about it.
Which is why doubling in either way from 1024x768 to 2048x1536 seems to be the obvious target they will work towards.
I'm quite surprised about the apparent sudden negativity in this thread so far in respect this becoming a reality for iPad3. As I'd said previously the general "feel" I'd got from hundereds of individual postings and articles gave me a very strong impression that, excuse the phrase, "Retina Display" was very strongly expected by the general Apple Interested Public for the next model, next spring.
I'm quite taken aback by postings in their thread so far, apparently now giving the impression that it's not going to happen for iPad3.
You've pretty much confused "wanted" for "expected."
Yeah, there were a lot of posts from people wanting it. The reaction you're getting in here is basically telling you that you shouldn't base your expectations on other people's desires.
Again, it's a matter of economy more than technological feasibility. I just don't believe that it's going to be possible to do it at Apple's current price points. And I don't believe Apple wants to raise those price points.
retina display wasn't going to happen with the ipad3 because it's more than just about price points - it's also about the hardware needed to control/manage the two-fold increase in resolution. there's more to it than just slapping in a higher-resolution screen.
at best, apple might increase the resolution to something like 1280x960 (assuming they stick with a 4:3 aspect ratio), but 2048x1536 was not going to happen in the next release. i think people have will to wait for the ipad4 for any large resolution jump.
imo, apple needs to improve/address other issues with the product nearly all of which revolve around the iOS and extending functionality or adding features. if they do that, the ipad will continue to be the dominant presence in the tablet market though i expect android-based tablets to improve their market share as the OS and software matures.
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I don't understand what's supposed to be wrong with the iPad display now? I read on it just fine.
What's wrong is that it's not "better." People always want "better," otherwise they're missing out on something.
I think many people get rather carried away with these things, but I understand your point - if it doesn't have a "retina" display, then what other big upgrade can it get to entice upgraders? I think you're suggesting that iPad 3 will be just another bump in speed, maybe a tiny bit smaller, a tiny bit longer battery life, etc.
And I agree - it might very well be. And that's probably not a problem - the tablet market is still growing, if they can just keep bumping it along, while the software (via iOS5) improves then there's still plenty of incentive for people to keep buying it. I honestly can't think of what extra features i'd want in my iPad, other than the "little bit faster, little bit thinner, little bit lighter, ..." things.
All that said, Apple are well known for surprises, and there may be things that they introduce in iPad 3 that we haven't even thought of.
David
And I agree - it might very well be. And that's probably not a problem - the tablet market is still growing, if they can just keep bumping it along, while the software (via iOS5) improves then there's still plenty of incentive for people to keep buying it. I honestly can't think of what extra features i'd want in my iPad, other than the "little bit faster, little bit thinner, little bit lighter, ..." things.
All that said, Apple are well known for surprises, and there may be things that they introduce in iPad 3 that we haven't even thought of.
David
As this thread seems to be, so far giving the impression that we won't be getting a better display for iPad3.
Despite all the past talk in various threads about people saying they are looking forward to a higher screen resolution for the next model.
I've put up a simple poll.
Not for what you WANT, as of course, we all want the very best, but what you think actually will happen in reality for iPad3
It will be interesting to see how many people think we are actually going to get the better screen, and those who think, actually it's not going to happen on the next model and we're still going to be on the same screen res going into 2013.
Despite all the past talk in various threads about people saying they are looking forward to a higher screen resolution for the next model.
I've put up a simple poll.
Not for what you WANT, as of course, we all want the very best, but what you think actually will happen in reality for iPad3
It will be interesting to see how many people think we are actually going to get the better screen, and those who think, actually it's not going to happen on the next model and we're still going to be on the same screen res going into 2013.
a higher res display is pretty low on my list of things that i'd like to see in the ipad3.
among a list of things, i'd rather see them make enhancements to the connection port to make it easier to connect other devices such as USB thumbdrives to make data transfer easier. just supporting SD cards is woefully inadequate.
the current display is more than adequate for my needs.
among a list of things, i'd rather see them make enhancements to the connection port to make it easier to connect other devices such as USB thumbdrives to make data transfer easier. just supporting SD cards is woefully inadequate.
the current display is more than adequate for my needs.
Oh yes, there's a massive list of things I'd like to see changed/improved on the iPad, but that's another issue or issues
I'm just trying to find out what Mac Forums members think will happen to the screen res for the next iPad3 model which will have to take us all the way into spring 2013.
Why? Its a commonly accepted term and much easier to type than "over 300dpi multitouch lcd display".
You mean this:
http://www.complex.com/tech/2011/05...-lcd-tablet-display-with-2560x1600-resolution
2560 x 1600 of 16:10 visual gorgeousness
That's double, in both directions the screen resolution of the current crop of high end Android/Honeycomb tablets from Motorola, Asus, Acer, Samsung etc.
I can't imagine it being any problem to lower this resolution down a little bit for the 4:3 format iPad3 with 2048x1536 pixels.
The question, as in my poll is. Do YOU think this will be ready for mass production and at an appropriate price point to be actually fitted into the iPad3 in just under a years time?
40% less than what? A similarly high-res standard LCD display of the same size? Displays currently in use? Does that consider the processing power necessary to run it or just the power to illuminate the thing?
It's Samsung showing off a technology that no-one has yet been able to evaluate in a real application, has yet to be demonstrated as viable in high-volume production and --- no mention of cost.
I recall seeing the "breakthrough technology that will reduce Plasma TV prices by 75%" headlines back when they were running $4,000 each. It happened, but in nowhere near the timeframe that the headlines suggested (they said "next year" and it was really about 3 years).
It doesn't say, but I'm assuming they are referring to their current tablet displays.
Assume away, but I wouldn't be so quick to jump to conclusions from a "look at me" press release.
I KNOW I'm sounding like a broken record, but "retina display" is only one piece of the equation. Processor/battery are equally important. And let's not forget COST. You need to stuff all that into a package the same size or lighter than what you see today to make it a strong selling point.
I know I'm speculating also, but I can't see all that happening in 8-9 months.