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They really need to find a specific niche for the iPad. The Apple Watch is focused on health and safety. The iPad's focus should be learning, training, and education. Add to that art and design if they won't give us pro Mac-level apps.
I think you have basically defined it correctly.

For me, the iPad niche(s) are reading (books/PDFs), markups, and notes. I would also add drawing and sketching for the subset of users that do this type of thing...not me 😀. The MacBook is better for productivity apps (e.g. iWork/Office) and multi-tasking.
 
I agree, this is for grandma, the grandkids and people who are not interested in having an Excel spreadsheet, Facebook and Netflix on the screen at the same time. I believe the small group who want this on the iPad are quite small actually. I recently got PIP on my iPad 12.9 2017 and its about the most useful multi-tasking that I need. I can type this post and have PBS News Hour playing in a small window. But at the end of the day, my focus is still sequential. The Steve Urkles needing more need to be shutdown.
iPad sales price this point. The vast majority are the entry level iPad
 
They really need to find a specific niche for the iPad. The Apple Watch is focused on health and safety. The iPad's focus should be learning, training, and education. Add to that art and design if they won't give us pro Mac-level apps.
The iPad’s niche is “the computer for the rest of us”. Those those want more than a phone but not the power or complexity of a PC / Mac. This is where the iPad shines
 
I think the meaning of the iPad was a device that was good enough for what most people wanted a computer for, consumption. The Mac and Windows computer was just overkill for that. What made the iPad so fantastic was the fact that, this thing that you could watch videos on, listen music, browse the web could all be done while using the device in non traditional settings such as laying in the couch, in bed, at the park, on an airplane.

I remember waiting for a flight at JFK in January 2007 and saw this guy with a 17 inch PB G4 and looking back on it now, it seemed so ridiculous. The iPhone can do so the same things, but sometimes people just want a bigger screen. The iPad was simply enough computing for what most people needed.

I’ll admit, I have all of them and use them in different context but I think the iPad wins the most when I’m home.

It’s flexible, easy to move around the house with and I can do essential productivity on it if I need to like emails. When comes to updating my resume, I could get away with, but it just requires a little more finesse.

For that, I turn to the Mac. The last time I went on vacation though, my iPad is what I took with me as my big computer. A striking contrast from years ago where I needed to have a Mac and iPad with me.
Hit the nail on the head
 
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Looking forward to these major updates! And hopefully iPhoneOS and WatchOS gets another update! I'm looking forward to the other updated features for WatchOS:
- international roaming
- track running feature
 
I don’t think iPadOS 16.1 was delayed because of any feature not working out — they could easily just remove it from that version and release later. It seems more likely that macOS and iPadOS is being released to coincide with new hardware. I still think there could be an event.
If there is, it would have to be announced either Tuesday or Wednesday to give the usual two weeks notice for the event (press invites must be sent to organize travel, as Apple events now have an in-person component again).

Of course, it could be a November event after the upcoming earnings call or a rare Monday event on the last day of October, but Apple has maintained Tuesday/Wednesday events in mid-to-late October for a while now. If there’s an October event, we’ll know in the next 36 hours.
 
Stage Manager is an unbelievable mess that needs another year of work. It has too many usability issue when it isn’t crashing. They really ought to remove it from this release.
If they remove stage manager it’s basically a 0.0.x update so they can’t not release it.
 
I’m definitely not updating on release date!! Lesson learned from ios16 release. My phone temporarily brick from it
 
If there is, it would have to be announced either Tuesday or Wednesday to give the usual two weeks notice for the event (press invites must be sent to organize travel, as Apple events now have an in-person component again).

Of course, it could be a November event after the upcoming earnings call or a rare Monday event on the last day of October, but Apple has maintained Tuesday/Wednesday events in mid-to-late October for a while now. If there’s an October event, we’ll know in the next 36 hours.
It could be announced a week in advance, and the event wouldn’t need to have a live component. We’ll see…
 
This is probably the most controversial iPadOS release in history. I think they need to just do a PSA and tell people, stop expecting more from this device. "We have this ****ing product line called the Mac, if you want to multitask, go there. This is for YouTube and browsing Macrumors, stop!"
So why use m1 at all in iPad… you know the same m1 that is used in the mac that superbly runs the macOS window server and window manager? The problem is not a hardware problem.

The problem is iPadOS was not designed for windowing or proper full screen external monitor support.
 
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So I guess, macOS 13 won't be far behind iPadOS 16.1 but we'll see if both are released on 24 October.
 
Proudly in the minority here: I adore Stage Manager. It has taken a little extra brain power to understand how to make the best of it but I think it’s a very solid first step towards touch based multi window support.
 
I would say that means iPads may be released next week for pre order to coincide with iPad OS launch
 
yeaaah i ain't gonna be upgrading to 16.1. maybe wait for 16.2 or even 16.3! i'll sit on 15.7 a while longer.

16 overall has been a disaster. my iPad was always crashing and rebooting on 16.1. Maybe they've fixed the issue but I really can't be bothered upgrading and finding out I need to revert to 15 or even worse be forced to stay on 16. Apple likes to pull the rug out far too quickly. You should always be allowed to downgrade to the previous major release (16 to 15).

luckily iOS 16 on my iPhone is no issue but we are on 16.0.3 now after a month. what a mess this has been for Apple in terms of software quality.
 
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It's almost as if Apple should go back to the original vision of the iPad when it was introduced in 2010 => The "computer" for the rest of us.
Was that the original vision for the iPad? It seems like they've treated it as something that can do some "computer-like" things but as a completely different entity that works in a very distinct way from square one. Apple has never been content to put the iPad in the realm of being a "computer," even though they did market it as basically being a "computer" for certain people for a time.

Look at how long it has taken for them to actually offer "desktop-class" apps...
 
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