This could very well be the last jerk of death from the iPad. Alot of ppl having waited for this is left out (read forseen this to eventually appear on ipad) will probably gop back to computers. We as company with 35000 employees counted on this happening but with evidence in hand we most probably moving to surface instead of upgrading iPads.
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iPadOS 16 Includes Internal Mode for Testing Stage Manager on Older iPads
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Steve would have listened to his engineering team and only his engineering team, then answered the question the same as Federighi. The only difference is that when Steve said it, everyone would have paid tribute to his perfectionism and commitment to user experience.
More correctly put, we all think we know why. We all also think it’s for different reasons. So some of us are wrong. And we all think we know who’s wrong. So some of you are wrong about that.
Your company counted on a feature the iPads didn’t have when they bought the iPads?
I see layoffs in the future.
Up until the next one comes along in a week or two.
friendly reminder: 90s laptops/desktops can do multi window support and the Mac mini dev kit used on an A12 processor running MacOS.
" It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
" It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."
There never was one. It's an oligarchy. It's the illusion of choice.
For those who don’t care or don’t want the feature, SKIP THE DAMN ARTICLE.
I don’t go around posting on articles that don’t pertain to me, denigrating people along the way.
I don’t go around posting on articles that don’t pertain to me, denigrating people along the way.
Yes I think stage manager only shines when you are using an external monitor and doing work flow like that but just using iPad the slide over and split screen is good enough.
The 3GB of RAM and 4 GB of RAM iPad reload a lot so that may be reason.
The OS is probably using 2GB of RAM. And browser probably any where from 1GB of RAM to 4GB of RAM if you have lot of tabs open. Apple maps or Google maps probably 1GB there well a note taking app probably 500MB.
If Apple had some thing like windows task manger we could see how the iPad is holding up than guessing base on Windows, Android and Linux.
But even Windows and Linux is getting more bloated today than 5 years ago.
I haven't used Stage Manager, so I don't know what it is like on a smaller iPad, but I suspect you are right and it is kind of cramped. The big advantage will be when using it with an external monitor, or at least, that's when it will seem most useful.
That said, it is unfortunate that less expensive iPads aren't getting Stage Manager. Imagine buying a base iPad for $329 and then adding a Monitor, keyboard and mouse for maybe $200. While mobile, you would just use your iPad like a regular tablet and occasionally access split screen and slide-over. But at home, with Stage Manger, you might have a decent desktop experience. Anyway, for the casual consumer or the person looking for a simple home computer solution, this could have been a nice option.
Because like I said in other thread Apple philosophy is ease of use and keep it simple than full of features and control. Unlike Windows, Linux and Android that just give you features but the hardware is not powerful enough for the OS or you can sorta of get it working if you always running task manger looking at the CPU and RAM tab and closing apps when it gets to high.
Apple is not going to make iPadOS pro OS for 5% of people that really know how to operate a computer with load progress bars, beach balls, task manager, swap files on 16GB SSD or 32GB SSD when you probably only have 4GB free SSD left. And destroy the SSD because of little space left and so much write delete and write to SSD. It just other OS makers don’t care.
It is a shame Apple could not get it to work on iPad pros with 6GB of RAM.
For non pros user most people only run one or two apps at the most. The only time I run two apps if I have to copy some thing like the Apple note app up and the browser is open and reading and making notes or copying. Where I need to look at two information and compare.
But more than three things running on the screen not in background is overkill.
I think that’s coming eventually. The M1 Pro and Air users are the guinea pigs. After everything comes together, most bugs and teething issues are ironed out, and older gen M-series chipset + 8GB RAM get inexpensive enough, that’s when the tech will trickle down to the regular iPad.
N conspiracy neede. iMessage dont exist on android for purely economic reason. Same with this, it’s just a want feature to entice a purchase of a new device. this happens every year. The latest iPhone/iPads gets a uneque selling feature the last generation won’t get.
I blame Apple management secrecy culture, hampering their ability to do proper communication without massive censorship and distorted reality. Had they handle communication more normally, things would be much more different.
They are. They always are.
That’s the dilemma: being honest means tons of stuff they framed themselves are wrong. Being dishonest opens themselves with legal troubles. Choosing not to speak is also not an option as people will pester them for those questions.
I think the only really technical bugaboo I discovered wading into this hornet’s best that leads me to question Apple’s choice is the fact that I would surmise that the A12Z in the Mac mini DTK had to support virtual memory, that others are saying it didn’t, which makes no sense to me. If the DTK supported VM under macOS, wouldn’t it be an expectation that the A12X/Z do support it, if Apple has just built that into iPadOS 16 to give the M1 iPP Stage Manager?
I have a 2017 12.9” iPP and I have zero illusions that Stage Manager would work on my device.
I also acknowledge that apple has the right to make a hard cutoff to provide the experience that they want users to have, no matter what older iPP owners are willing to give up to have Stage Manager, which is really nice looking, but I wonder how productivity enhancing it ends up being. Just my 2¢.
Apple absolutely does not want anyone to see how the sausage is made, EVER. I think I’m still bound by certain NDAs to keep my mouth shut, not that what my previous employer did was ground breaking. This is their culture and it has been backfiring on them as of late. Where oh where is Katie Cotton when you need her?!?!
I’m not convinced that this new SW feature has any practical utility. I‘d sure like to see if I’m wrong though before dropping $2,200 on a new cellular iPad.
As long as they keep this part of their culture intact, Stage Manager controversy will come back soon, only with something else under the spotlight. To me, this controversy is not big enough to actually hurt them, so it only causes some reactions in the tech world. I can't wait to see their legacy bite them hard again.
Agreed, and agreed. I am lucky enough to have upgraded to an M1 iPad earlier this year, but Stage Manager is definitely not as great as some people are making it out to be. The killer feature for me is having 1 TB of storage, as I work on a ship that frequently goes out to sea.
What we really need is for Apple to release a version of macOS for iPad (both 11 and 12.9 for crying out loud...it would be the ultimate portable).
