It doesn't need to be like the Mac because it's Apple's IP. Microsoft didn't make the Xbox like Windows PCs.It’s people like John Gruber trying to argue a difference as justification for why iOS/iPadOS don’t need to be like the Mac.
It doesn't need to be like the Mac because it's Apple's IP. Microsoft didn't make the Xbox like Windows PCs.It’s people like John Gruber trying to argue a difference as justification for why iOS/iPadOS don’t need to be like the Mac.
Obviously firms like Apple and Meta and Google have far too much invested in Europe to pull out, as some have suggested. But one can imagine that a future Apple or Google might wonder whether it's worthwhile to do business in the EU, if this is the price of success..."Today, we have brought Apple's iPadOS within the scope of the DMA obligations. Our market investigation showed that despite not meeting the thresholds, iPadOS constitutes an important gateway on which many companies rely to reach their customers."
This is Vestager/EU admitting that they're not following their own rules. "Gatekeeper" was supposed to be defined by the thresholds. Now they're saying that they can just deem anything a "gatekeeper" regardless of whether the thresholds are met or not.
It's Apple's IP. That's how IP works: you get to do what you want with it. Why are certain video games only released on consoles and not on iPad/iPhone? It's the game developers IP and they get to choose what platform they support.I bought it because it's more practical for a different purpose. But it's quite idiotic that i have two device with the very same processor for two different kind of needs just because Tim Apple would like to get more dollars. Why I can't actually do development on my iPad???
It's like when you purchase a motorcycle but your vendor strictly prohibit to use it on a highway, so you're purchase a car too.
macOS for the iPad will happen eventually, it's just the matter of time, not the matter of your liking.
I wonder if this will allow more complex Apps that Apple wouldn't allow. For example proper code compilation and software development should be possible in the EU now given that the developers of those Apps won't have to go through App Review anymore.This is great news for EU iPad users. Can’t wait until the rest of the world catches up. And anyone who wants to only run Apple App Store apps and etc can keep doing it! But the rest of the world should be able to do what they want with devices they paid dearly for - we pay just as much if not more than for a MacBook that will run circles around the iPad due to iPadOS being run by an anticompetitive business model limiting software. And for those who want you can still use your finger for all your input! I will use MacOS or Windows if Apple doesn’t make MacOS available! And run any app I want.
And what will their next reason be for fining apple? WatchOS?The EU has already explained the logic used for designating iPadOS as a gatekeepr. I believe Apple has 45 days to appeal the decision.
Our market investigation showed that despite not meeting the thresholds, iPadOS constitutes an important gateway on which many companies rely to reach their customers.
Yep...if it's just a general durable/entrenched position in the market that determines gatekeeper status and not specific numerical thresholds then why isn't Spotify being designated a gatekeeper by the EU?And what will their next reason be for fining apple? WatchOS?
So use it for the purpose which you bought it for. The processor is irrelevant.I bought it because it's more practical for a different purpose. But it's quite idiotic that i have two device with the very same processor for two different kind of needs just because Tim Apple would like to get more dollars. Why I can't actually do development on my iPad???
I would not buy a non-highway motorcycle if I want to use it on the highway. I would buy a highway-capable motorcycle.It's like when you purchase a motorcycle but your vendor strictly prohibit to use it on a highway, so you're purchase a car too.
Nice assumption on what I like. I personally would like Mac OS on the iPad, but since Apple never promised it on the iPad when I bought it Im not complaining that it doesn't run it.macOS for the iPad will happen eventually, it's just the matter of time, not the matter of your liking.
Thus, increasing Apple’s marketshare in the region. I guess their plan to increase competition is to increase Apple’s marketshare?Apple has crippled iPadOS and consumers need the EU to force Apple to make moves that actually benefits the consumer.
This line at the beginning of the article is very important in my opinion:
and as such I cannot understand peoples anger/disgust with the EU over it's handling of Apple and others. For decades people have enjoyed the fruits of fair competition and expansion of options for consumers. No longer are people restricted on where they purchase their cars, spare parts or getting a service. People have a good selection of utility providers to chose from, cable companies to chose from, mobile phone network providers to chose from, food, clothing, tools, electrical goods, electronic goods, insurance, banking and the list goes on. All things that have changed over the decades due to the EU stepping in to prevent companies and manufacturers from dominating in the market thereby being able to set what ever price they wanted. Now that the EU is focusing on the digital world, app stores, app store apps and more suddenly people are annoyed and disgusted that certain companies are being targeted. Maybe these people will be happy to go back to how things were, only 2-3 utility companies to chose from, having to get your car repaired at the car manufacturers dealership, having to purchase car spares from the car manufacturer, having limited choice on food, clothing, electrical goods and so on all the while being restricted to the high prices they set because there is no competition to drive down prices.
You cannot complain about the one and be happy with the other, it does not work like that. Everyone has to abide from fair competition or no one does.
Well for starters what would Spotify be gatekeeping exactly? They don't operate a platform.Yep...if it's just a general durable/entrenched position in the market that determines gatekeeper status and not specific numerical thresholds then why isn't Spotify being designated a gatekeeper by the EU?
There was a town in Tennessee that had a rule against store signs representing food. The EU could copy that model… any company with food as a logo that does not actually deal in food?And what will their next reason be for fining apple? WatchOS?
People keep on saying this here but they’re not going to pull out of their 2nd most important (and very stable) market.That will never happen thou
Wait. You are joking with me. So they are complaining that Apple has too much power over their own products?They have all the power on the 33%. In fact, they have more power on the 33% than the other OS has on their 67%. I think that has sealed the deal for the EU.
Their app is a platform for musicians and podcasters.Well for starters what would Spotify be gatekeeping exactly? They don't operate a platform.
Actually this is long time problem for Apple that they can't attract AAA teams to port their games, despite all the effort like the Game Porting Toolkit, maybe there is a problem with their app store model? Who knows, right?It's Apple's IP. That's how IP works: you get to do what you want with it. Why are certain video games only released on consoles and not on iPad/iPhone? It's the game developers IP and they get to choose what platform they support.
Nice, so I want a 11" MacBook without a keyboard and with a touchscreen, running the full macOS. Give it to me Tim Apple, my body is ready.So use it for the purpose which you bought it for. The processor is irrelevant.
I would not buy a non-highway motorcycle if I want to use it on the highway. I would buy a highway-capable motorcycle.
Nice assumption on what I like. I personally would like Mac OS on the iPad, but since Apple never promised it on the iPad when I bought it Im not complaining that it doesn't run it.
Game consoles have 30% commissions. Steam on Windows has 30% commissions. It's not the business terms. The reality for AAA games is that they require HIGH PRICES in order to get the return on investment that they're looking for. Mobile gaming generally has LOW PRICES.Actually this is long time problem for Apple that they can't attract AAA teams to port their games, despite all the effort like the Game Porting Toolkit, maybe there is a problem with their app store model? Who knows, right?![]()
That's a different kind of platform entirely. Even so, let's go with your line of thinking, are they using their platform to abuse competitors or the market in some way? You might actually be able to get me to agree with you here that Spotify needs regulation if so, though it would likely fall under something outside of the DMA.Their app is a platform for musicians and podcasters.
This is already being proven false, seeing how the first alt store has exclusive apps....
...which you can still have. You aren't forced to use other stores. And that "inferior" situation is one entirely of Apples own making. There is nothing in the laws that prevent them from letting other app stores work just as their own.