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Yeah. They're starting to equal the price of desktop computers with some of these. And Samsung increased the price on their new phone.
You pay based on the value that it brings you. For many, if not most, users their smartphone is their only and / or most used "computer".
 
You pay based on the value that it brings you. For many, if not most, users their smartphone is their only and / or most used "computer".

Struggling to see how the iPhone XS is 30% more valuable than the iPhone 7 was when it launched honestly but whatever stories people want to tell themselves is good with me..
 
Struggling to see how the iPhone XS is 30% more valuable than the iPhone 7 was when it launched honestly but whatever stories people want to tell themselves is good with me..
Glad you allow customers to spend their money as they see fit.:rolleyes: But one could make up any narrative on anything.
 
Where are you getting $60+ a month from? There’s no way I lose anywhere near $720 a year when I resell a device.

I paid £1249 for the 256GB XS Max but I would not get anywhere near that price when selling it on.

Quick check I’d get £571-£700 tops. So I’d be losing around £600 ($723 at current exchange rates) on the device after less than 12 months of use and battery health percentage at 99%. You would also have to sell the device before the launch of the new iPhone to get those prices too. Selling it after the announcement will see the price drop even further.

Back when iPhones were reasonably priced then yes the sell on value would be good compared to what you paid for it. However since Apple jacked up the prices the sell on values compared to what you paid is nowhere near as good. It’s nearly an immediate 50% depreciation because nobody in the Second hand market would paid £1000+ on a phone.
 
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Unfortunately it’s a little too close for there to be secretive big changes like usb-c. However if they call it a pro it Damn well better have usb-c. Let the R keep lightning and then I can use one single cable for everything.
 
I paid £1249 for the 256GB XS Max but I would not get anywhere near that price when selling it on.

Quick check I’d get £571-£700 tops. So I’d be losing around £600 ($723 at current exchange rates) on the device after less than 12 months of use and battery health percentage at 99%. You would also have to sell the device before the launch of the new iPhone to get those prices too. Selling it after the announcement will see the price drop even further.

Back when iPhones were reasonably priced then yes the sell on value would be good compared to what you paid for it. However since Apple jacked up the prices the sell on values compared to what you paid is nowhere near as good. It’s nearly an immediate 50% depreciation because nobody in the Second hand market would paid £1000+ on a phone.
Quick check on swappa shows $927 as average selling price on 256 gb max.
 
Quick check on swappa shows $927 as average selling price on 256 gb max.

Is that in the US or UK? Either way it would still be around £500 depreciation on a device less than 12 months old.

With the new stainless steel band you can’t even sell it as mint condition because it incurs micro scratches just from rubbing your finger on it.
 
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I paid £1249 for the 256GB XS Max but I would not get anywhere near that price when selling it on.

Quick check I’d get £571-£700 tops. So I’d be losing around £600 ($723 at current exchange rates) on the device after less than 12 months of use and battery health percentage at 99%. You would also have to sell the device before the launch of the new iPhone to get those prices too. Selling it after the announcement will see the price drop even further.

Back when iPhones were reasonably priced then yes the sell on value would be good compared to what you paid for it. However since Apple jacked up the prices the sell on values compared to what you paid is nowhere near as good. It’s nearly an immediate 50% depreciation because nobody in the Second hand market would paid £1000+ on a phone.

Not where I live. I’d lose about 30%. Perhaps there’s a different mentality in the UK? I went to Craigslist for London and it’s a wasteland for used iPhones. Here in Vancouver (a city a fraction of the population of London) and there are hundreds of iPhones for sale. Or maybe nobody in London uses Craigslist and there’s another preferred method for buying/selling used?
 
Is that in the US or UK? Either way it would still be around £500 depreciation on a device less than 12 months old.

With the new stainless steel band you can’t even sell it as mint condition because it incurs micro scratches just from rubbing your finger on it.
$927 is US. According to swappa lost 25% in depreciation.
 
According to this, it's going to be:

XR -> iPhone 11
XS -> iPhone 11 Pro
Max -> iPhone 11 Pro Max

Which is a bit of a hideous naming scheme lol :p
 
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Not where I live. I’d lose about 30%. Perhaps there’s a different mentality in the UK? I went to Craigslist for London and it’s a wasteland for used iPhones. Here in Vancouver (a city a fraction of the population of London) and there are hundreds of iPhones for sale. Or maybe nobody in London uses Craigslist and there’s another preferred method for buying/selling used?
Not where I live. I’d lose about 30%. Perhaps there’s a different mentality in the UK? I went to Craigslist for London and it’s a wasteland for used iPhones. Here in Vancouver (a city a fraction of the population of London) and there are hundreds of iPhones for sale. Or maybe nobody in London uses Craigslist and there’s another preferred method for buying/selling used?

I personally don’t know many people who use Craigslist for buying used phones. In the UK we have a few popular stores which buy used phones. These are the places which would give the lower end of my estimate. The higher price would be obtained by a private sale, which is usually eBay for me.

Not sure about Canada but in the UK people like to have a warranty period even for used phones. A lot of stores here selling second hand phones give 12-24 month warranties.
 
Apple marketing at its finest. Slap on Pro, raise price.
The only Pro thing my MBP did good at was logic board failing :rolleyes:

People raised a huge stink over the notch as well. This could well be another one of those things which seems more problematic in theory, but few actually have any issues with it in real life.
The notch is one of those things that's right on the threshold, like a pebble in your shoe. Annoying but not enough to be a dealbreaker.

I would much rather have bezels with no notch, no curved edge, and USB-C like the iPad Pro.
 
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They should just name them:

iPhone $
iPhone $$
iPhone $$$

Easy.

So tired of the crazy expensive phones. I have an iPhone 8 and it’s the perfect size and weight. I don’t want anything heavier or larger. Guess I’ll be using it for a while.

 
They should just name them:

iPhone $
iPhone $$
iPhone $$$

Easy.

So tired of the crazy expensive phones. I have an iPhone 8 and it’s the perfect size and weight. I don’t want anything heavier or larger. Guess I’ll be using it for a while.
"I have an iPhone 8 and it’s the perfect size and weight. I don’t want anything heavier or larger." => Agreed.
 
Apple marketing at its finest. Slap on Pro, raise price.
The only Pro thing my MBP did good at was logic board failing :rolleyes:


The notch is one of those things that's right on the threshold, like a pebble in your shoe. Annoying but not enough to be a dealbreaker.

I would much rather have bezels with no notch, no curved edge, and USB-C like the iPad Pro.
They won’t raise the price...
 
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