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Funny — I particularly like this year’s colors.

The colors are all the same as last years except for the green.
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There are three things that makes the iPhone 11 Pro stand out from the iPhone 11:

  • 3 cameras on the back instead of 2
  • The OLED “Super Retina” display
  • Slightly faster LTE
The iPhone 11 will support Night Mode & the new Deep Fusion camera technology coming out later this Fall. That’s not much of a difference between the two models


That’s incorrect. There are many other differences. Look at a comparison sheet.
 
128GB should be standard on the Pro.

most people only need 64GB and don’t want to pay for your storage.
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I agree! Ever since the 5C their color options have been meh, with the exception of red. I think these bold colors would be extremely popular so I can’t see why they don’t offer them.

they don’t offer them because they are not, in fact, popular.
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Why bother looking at the tech specs? The iPhone 11 does 99.99% of the things the Pro does for nearly half of its RRP price less then the small 64GB Pro costs!

It’s a shame they have ditched 3D Touch as my XR doesn’t respond as well with the bodged implementation they’ve come up with.

Anyway all the 11 needs is a Qualcomm modem and an OLED screen, 1080P will do so long as it keeps that zoomed screen mode. It would be even more awesome if they made it a bit smaller and lighter!

70% is a long way from “nearly half”
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64 GB at this point is just offensive. How long are they going to milk this upselling strategy

you find it insane because you need more than 64GB. Those of us who don’t find it completely sane to pay for what we need and nothing more.
 
There are three things that makes the iPhone 11 Pro stand out from the iPhone 11:

  • 3 cameras on the back instead of 2
  • The OLED “Super Retina” display
  • Slightly faster LTE
The iPhone 11 will support Night Mode & the new Deep Fusion camera technology coming out later this Fall. That’s not much of a difference between the two models

Yeah the extra battery life is not a big deal o_O
 
Not sure how any such assessment can be made without more attention paid to size. I know this is a well beaten and super dead horse but for people with hands of XYZ size or smaller, they can’t reach the top of the screen of the 11 Pro with a thumb swipe. That’s a problem and I don’t care what sort of clever workaround Apple found to pull the screen down. It’s kludgy at best.

if only humans had two hands.
 
128GB should be standard on the Pro.

most people only need 64GB and don’t want to pay for your storage.
A “Pro” model is not intended for most people, but for “professionals”. As Apple fails to demonstrate why this is a pro device, they should have been so nice as to put 128GB in it for the same base price.

The iPhone 11 pro does not compare to the iPhone 11 as the iMac Pro does to the iMac, or the Mac Pro to the Mac mini.
 
So a lot of vitriol about screens and OMG what idiot would get an LED screen it’s OLED all the way.

So for all those with an iPad that you might be reading this on with an LED display and lower resolution than an iPhone 11 screen; are you going to put them in the bin because it’s just soooo bad and such rubbish technology?

No you aren’t as they look great as does the screen on the iPhone 11, people need to get a grip sometimes and a couple of doses of reality. :rolleyes:
 
A trick question indeed. Simple answer if you don’t own any iPhone and your budget can accommodate either then pick what you feel suits yours needs.

If one is an iPhone XR/XS/Max - 8 owner then there is very little appealing to upgrade. Even a 7-6S owner can wait for the much anticipated 2020 models.

Even if the “Pro” versions have 6GB of RAM I am quite content with my XS even though cost is not a factor. In all honesty Apple seems to be testing the water on base storage, with all cameras capable of 4K video, the 2020 models will have a base 128GB storage capacity and top off at 1TB. It’s strange that the rounded square did not offer 4 cameras as it is begging o be accommodated, I guess 2021/22 will offer this.

iPhone 11 with its rounded square camera housing seems out of place and goes against design aesthetics, does it really need that rounded square like the colours and the extra camera were not enough to differentiate it from X/XS and XR models. It’s a lame reason to sell protective cases. 64GB base storage on iPhone 11 seems acceptable for its target market.
 
No USB C? Still has the notch? Mmmm looks like I am keeping my iphone 6s for a little while longer.
6S you say? You've forgotten its best feature!
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Anyone else think this is really lame?
They improved the one thing that still matters, which is the camera, so I'm glad it's that and not some gimmick. And I'm also glad the naming isn't awful like last gen. I'm still not gonna buy one.
 
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Which one has a headphone jack? I'll consider that one.




Apple's latest iPhones, the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro, are nearing their release dates on September 20. Apple is separating the new smartphones into its usual low-cost versus high-cost categories, with big differences between the two models coming down to the camera, display, and battery life.

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Just the Tech Specs

Below you'll find tech specs for iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro, with each difference bolded.

iPhone 11
6.1-inch LCD display
Battery lasts up to 1 hour longer than iPhone XR
1792×828 resolution and 326 PPI
True Tone display
Dual 12-megapixel rear cameras (wide and ultra-wide lenses)
Single 12-megapixel front camera
Portrait Mode with Depth Control: humans, pets, and objects
Six Portrait Lighting effects
Next-gen Smart HDR
A13 Bionic chip with third-gen Neural Engine
Face ID
Haptic Touch
Lightning connector
Fast charging capable: up to 50% charge in 30 minutes
Qi-based wireless charging
IP68-rated water resistance to a depth of 2 meters for up to 30 minutes
64/128/256GB
Dual SIM (Nano-SIM and eSIM)
Gigabit-class LTE
VoLTE
802.11ax Wi-Fi 6 with MIMO
Bluetooth 5.0
Night Mode photos
Front-facing slo-mo video recording at 120 FPS
QuickTake video recording shortcut
Dolby Atmos sound
U1 chip for spatial awareness

iPhone 11 Pro
5.8-inch OLED display
Battery lasts up to 4 hours longer than iPhone XS
2436x1125 resolution and 458 PPI
True Tone display
Triple 12-megapixel rear cameras (wide, ultra-wide, and telephoto)
Single 12-megapixel front camera
Portrait Mode with Depth Control: humans, pets, and objects
Six Portrait Lighting effects
Next-gen Smart HDR
A13 Bionic chip with third-gen Neural Engine
Face ID
Haptic Touch
Lightning connector
Fast charging capable: up to 50% charge in 30 minutes
Qi-based wireless charging
IP68-rated water resistance to a depth of 4 meters for up to 30 minutes
64/256/512GB
Dual SIM (Nano-SIM and eSIM)
Gigabit-class LTE
VoLTE
802.11ax Wi-Fi 6 with MIMO
Bluetooth 5.0
Night Mode photos
Front-facing slo-mo video recording at 120 FPS
QuickTake video recording shortcut
Dolby Atmos sound
U1 chip for spatial awareness iPhone 11 Pro Max specs identical to 11 Pro, except...
6.5-inch OLED display
Battery lasts up to 5 hours longer than iPhone XS Max (longest battery in an iPhone)
2688x1242 resolution and 458 PPIDesign

Although they look very similar, the iPhone 11 is made with an aluminum frame and both the front and back are made of glass. The iPhone 11 Pro has the same glass build as the iPhone 11, but with a premium matte finish on the back of the device. Instead of an aluminum frame, its frame is made of stainless steel.

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For all three 2019 iPhones, Apple claims that its glass is the "toughest glass found in a smartphone," and promises durability if you happen to drop or otherwise accidentally harm your iPhone. For both smartphones, the square camera bump has a polished glass finish.

The iPhone 11 is 5.94 inches tall, 2.98 inches wide, and 0.33 inches thick, with a weight of 6.84 ounces. The iPhone 11 Pro is ever slightly smaller at 5.67 inches tall, 2.81 inches wide, and 0.32 inches thick, with a weight of 6.63 ounces. Of course, the iPhone 11 Pro Max is the biggest of the bunch at 6.22 inches tall, 3.06 inches wide, and 0.32 inches deep, at a total weight of 7.97 ounces.

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The iPhone 11 comes in Purple, Yellow, Green, Black, White, and Product Red. The iPhone 11 Pro comes in Midnight Green, Silver, Space Grey, and Gold. All models have the same front-face notch, bezels, antenna bands, volume and side buttons, mute switch, speaker grills, microphones, and Lightning port.

Display

The iPhone 11 sports a 6.1-inch "Liquid Retina HD" LCD display, while the iPhone 11 Pro family has a sharper "Super Retina XDR" OLED display. While the LCD on the iPhone 11 provides true-to-life colors, the OLED on the iPhone 11 Pro is brighter in sunlight, can display true blacks and more detail in bright areas, and is able to support HDR movies on iTunes.

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Specifically, the iPhone 11 reaches 625 nits max brightness while the iPhone 11 Pro reaches 800 nits max brightness. Both models support True Tone and Haptic Touch, but neither has support for 3D Touch, which Apple has abandoned this generation. 3D Touch provided pressure-sensitive feedback for shortcuts throughout iOS, and Haptic Touch is the somewhat similar replacement for it, without the hardware-based feedback.

The LCD display is mainly how Apple can keep the cost of the iPhone 11 down in comparison to the iPhone 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max, but it'll be more than sufficient for most users who use their iPhone to casually browse social media apps and stay connected with friends and family through Messages.

Performance

Both the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro are powered by Apple's A13 Bionic chip, which the company claims to be the fastest CPU ever in a smartphone.

In detail, the A13 Bionic features four high-efficiency cores that are up to 20 percent faster and consume 40 percent less power than the A12 Bionic, and two high-performance cores that are up to 20 percent faster and 30 percent more efficient than the previous chip.

Battery Life

This leads to improved battery life on the 2019 iPhones thanks to the more efficient A13 Bionic chip. The iPhone 11 has up to one hour longer battery life than the iPhone XR (its direct predecessor). Based on Apple's internal testing, the iPhone 11 is rated for up to 17 hours of offline video playback, up to 10 hours of streaming video over Wi-Fi, and up to 65 hours of audio playback per charge.

The iPhone 11 Pro has up to four hours longer battery life than the iPhone XS, rated for up to 18 hours of offline video playback, up to 11 hours of streaming video over Wi-Fi, and up to 65 hours of audio playback per charge.

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The iPhone 11 Pro Max has the longest battery life in an iPhone to date, lasting up to five hours longer than the iPhone XS Max. It's rated for up to 20 hours of offline video playback, up to 12 hours of streaming video over Wi-Fi, and up to 80 hours of audio playback per charge.

All three models support wireless charging on any Qi-compatible mat, as well as fast charging via 18W or higher USB-C charger and Lightning to USB-C cable. This will net you up to a 50 percent charge in 30 minutes. Notably, the iPhone 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max include an 18W charger and Lightning to USB-C cable in the box, but the iPhone 11 does not include these upgraded accessories and instead comes with the previous 5W charger and Lightning to USB-A cable.

Cameras

Besides the display, the camera is one of the biggest differences between the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro, but you'll still be getting a solid smartphone camera on either device.

To start, the iPhone 11 has a dual 12-megapixel camera system, with wide (?/1.8 aperture) and ultra wide (?/2.4 aperture) lenses. With ultra wide, you can "zoom out" to 0.5x without physically moving, and capture more of a scene in the process.
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It also supports the new Night Mode for improved low-light images, Auto Adjustments, optical image stabilization, digital zoom up to 5x, 2x optical zoom out, brighter True Tone flash with Slow Sync, Portrait Mode with six effects, and Smart HDR.

Comparatively, the iPhone 11 Pro camera's main difference is found in its third telephoto camera (?/2.0 aperture). This means the 11 Pro family has three total lenses: ultra wide, wide, and telephoto. You'll also get dual optical image stabilization, 2x optical zoom in, 2x optical zoom out, and digital zoom up to 10x.

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The main advantage of the telephoto lens are that it allows for zooming in on distant subjects without losing much clarity in the image. Apple said that this can be seen when taking images of wildlife from afar, or when you're at a sporting event.

Across the iPhone 11 family of devices, you'll be able to use Apple's "slofies" (aka slow-motion selfies on the front-facing camera); gain access to all six Portrait Lighting effects; and take Portrait Mode photos of humans, objects, and pets.

They also all include Apple's third-generation Neural Engine, enabling next-generation Smart HDR for more natural-looking photos. Later this fall, it will enable a new Deep Fusion system that uses advanced machine learning for pixel-by-pixel processing of photos, including texture, details, and noise.

Connectivity

Both the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro include 802.11ax Wi-Fi and Gigabit-class LTE, meaning that in terms of cellular performance all models of the 2019 iPhone should see similar statistics.

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They both include Bluetooth 5.0 support and have NFC readers to support Apple Pay. On the new side of things, Apple has included its in-house designed U1 chip to enable ultra-wideband support for improved spatial awareness.

In a practical sense, this means that iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro can precisely locate other U1-equipped Apple devices. With iOS 13.1, for example, you'll be able to point your iPhone 11 to another iPhone to AirDrop a photo or file.

Storage and Pricing

You can purchase the iPhone 11 in 64GB, 128GB, and 256GB storage capacities, priced at $699, $749, and $849 respectively in the United States.

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The iPhone 11 Pro is available in 64GB, 256GB, and 512GB, priced at $999, $1,149, and $1,349 respectively in the United States.

Lastly, the iPhone 11 Pro Max is available in 64GB, 256GB, and 512GB, priced at $1,099, $1,249, and $1,449 respectively in the United States.

Conclusion

Apple continues to offer a nice array of iPhones across the price spectrum for customers, who will have to decide whether the "pro" upgrades are worth the price. At $999 for entry-level pricing, the iPhone 11 Pro has the same great camera of the pricier 11 Pro Max models, along with the OLED display and improved battery life compared to the previous generation.

Still, those advantages might not be worth the $300 upcharge from the entry-level iPhone 11, which still offers a solid camera, Face ID, a True Tone LCD display, and more color options. Because of this, the $699 64GB iPhone 11 will likely remain a more popular option among most 2019 iPhone buyers.

Article Link: iPhone 11 vs. iPhone 11 Pro: Which to Buy?
 
Obviously the pro. LCD barf
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It’s the same price as in the US. Just with your countries conversion rate

Aware of that. But the price point for whichever country, it's just getting really out of control.
 
They improved the one thing that still matters, which is the camera, so I'm glad it's that and not some gimmick. And I'm also glad the naming isn't awful like last gen. I'm still not gonna buy one.

I thought the product is called “iPhone” not “iCamera” for a revolutionary handheld computer that does more than phone functions for a number of years the product should have been renamed to something more appropriate. People use these devices more for everything and less for phone calls.
 
Not sure why Apple is trying so hard. May be is time to become innovative and just sell stickers, so people can peal off last year's one and put new one on for say ... humble $1200 a pop. All modern colors etc. The sticker would read something like "You still got the best, most innovative smartphone in a world!" And boom! Done! Minimal impact to the environment, shareholders are jumping up to the roof. Ah, Apple?
 
I think if your a serial upgrader, then i can see why one would hesitate to upgrade.

For many, it’s a case of changing their phone when needed and you look at the market to see what’s on offer.
 
It’s a marketing term.
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No. It doesn’t. Not even close. Compare the specs and features.
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OLED looks much better than lcd.
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All the top android phones have the same prices and prices are down over last year. Maybe you should get a flip phone.
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Exactly.

I did compare the specs and features and I’m right. The only thing you get with the Pro is an OLED and an extra camera lens, that’s it, these are the only things you will notice or see in general use.
 
Thats no accurate though is it. The 11 is CHEAPER than the XR was last year. Yes the 11 Pros are admittedly more expensive. Currency fluctuations pay their part, Apple thinking they can charge extra in the UK for the more premium product is something else entirely.
The 11 is cheaper everywhere compared to last year. If the pound were stronger, it would have been even more so.
 
Same here, post-2015 Apple devices seems to be made to break after the 1 year ( uk ) limited warranty.

Just in case you’re not aware of the 1987 consumer protection act in the UK, this extends your warranty to 2 years (and even more if the flaw is clearly caused by a manufacturing flaw).

I have used this successfully with Apple on a few occasions (such as when I had dust on my supposedly hermetically sealed camera sensor).

Hope it helps!
 
OLED screen + 1 more lens = $300 (%42 increase)

It’s all about insane margin on the 11 and even more insane margin on the 11 Pro



Samsung has been releasing sub$500 phones with OLED screens for many years.... so OLED doesn’t justify that difference.
It doesn't matter what others do. It's a free market. Porsche doesn't dictate its prices according to what Renault does for its models. Not saying that Apple is one and Samsung is another, just using an example.
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No it's not.

Actually now that I've said all that, Nits has a factor in the OLED vs LCD argument, but I'm a geek and avoid the sun, so there's that.

Hahahahahahahhahhaha
 
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