I knew someone would say that when I wrote that which is why I said it’s a good value in a very expensive lineup. Really the best deal would be to get something else entirely if you’re very price sensitive. But what? The competition raised their prices, too. I’m not talking about any old competition, but the ones that can offer the same level of build quality and service and overall quality.
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iPhone 11 vs. iPhone 11 Pro Buyer's Guide
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Yeah, I really miss having cutting edge features in that size. I'd like my pocket real estate back!
Well...that was quick and painless! iPhone 11 Pro Max in Space Grey.
Launch day delivery.
I hate to say it, but that's probably because many people are starting to realize this release is a joke and just a douchey money grab. If someone is upgrading from a 6, 7, or 8 line then maybe it might be worth it, but from anything in the X, Xs, XR lineup is really just to have a status symbol, IMHO. And the PRO versions are an even bigger joke. Nothing PRO about them...
considering you can get a iphone 11 for $350 with iphone 7 trade-in at tmobile, i think the choice is clear (for those on tmobile):
https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/apple-iphone-deals
https://www.t-mobile.com/offers/apple-iphone-deals
In that case, they should make region specific colors. The 11 is basically all just one faded color, for the most part. I want a bright blue or deep purple, not some sun faded nasty looking colors.
How smart we want our phone to be. What's the sweet spot, vs what the industry offers.
The iPhone is the 11. Tech evolves so fast, making the pros a necessity, but, it's for geeks and gadgets lovers.
Looking forward for the next version of the SE.
- Apple, why not re-invent the flip phone for the 4-inches lovers...
The iPhone is the 11. Tech evolves so fast, making the pros a necessity, but, it's for geeks and gadgets lovers.
Looking forward for the next version of the SE.
- Apple, why not re-invent the flip phone for the 4-inches lovers...
What about THIS difference???
11 Pro: Gigabit‑class LTE with 4x4 MIMO and LAA
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11: Gigabit-class LTE with 2x2 MIMO and LAA
11 Pro: Gigabit‑class LTE with 4x4 MIMO and LAA
vs.
11: Gigabit-class LTE with 2x2 MIMO and LAA
Why worry about the colour of the phone? You won't be able to see it through the rubber case that will inevitably be wrapped around it.
That would be a problem for Apple, wouldn’t it? A phone has to work for a “reasonable” length of time in the EU by law. When a phone is sold on a 3 year contract, surely a reasonable time is at least three years.
Actually, it’s not two years, it’s “a reasonable amount of time”. O2 sells these phones with a 36 month plan. When you buy a phone with a 36 month plan, then clearly 36 months is a reasonable amount of time that it should last at a minimum. It seems quite unreasonable that you’d have to buy a new phone if it breaks down after 25 months and you then have to pay another 11 months for a broken phone.
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I think it’s 1200 nits. 12000 would be good for a tanning studio
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Actually, it’s not two years, it’s “a reasonable amount of time”. O2 sells these phones with a 36 month plan. When you buy a phone with a 36 month plan, then clearly 36 months is a reasonable amount of time that it should last at a minimum. It seems quite unreasonable that you’d have to buy a new phone if it breaks down after 25 months and you then have to pay another 11 months for a broken phone.
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I think it’s 1200 nits. 12000 would be good for a tanning studio
The new A13 Bionic scans your face for signs of skin cancer during face unlock and Siri will automatically schedule a visit with your oncologist when necessary
...traded ol' Max for New Max this morn. *yawwwn*
oh, btw, traded #4 watch for #5 aluminum gold and NO mistake (GPS ONLY !) this time of getting the 'ka-ching cellular' option. more $$ for a separate plan so u can make calls w/out packn ur phone ?!! uh, how many times do you make calls while body surfing ? duh, saw me coming ! anywho, can't wait to tryout/use the new trip/lens wide-angle cam/vid system. throw in the A13 Bio/speedster chipset and i'd say we're done here ! cheers ! -s
oh, btw, traded #4 watch for #5 aluminum gold and NO mistake (GPS ONLY !) this time of getting the 'ka-ching cellular' option. more $$ for a separate plan so u can make calls w/out packn ur phone ?!! uh, how many times do you make calls while body surfing ? duh, saw me coming ! anywho, can't wait to tryout/use the new trip/lens wide-angle cam/vid system. throw in the A13 Bio/speedster chipset and i'd say we're done here ! cheers ! -s
Well, let's give you some european perspective outside little britain:
XR starting from 729e
11 starting from 829e (to 879, 999e)
11Pro starting from 1179e (1349e, 1579e)
11ProMaxUltraTurboIntercooler starting from 1279e (1449e, 1679e)
That last number (for the 512GB 11ProMaxBS) is roughly $1859. 11 would be $918 and 11Pro starts from $1306.
I'm not even considering the 11 because of the subpar battery. Not sure if any of the pros would survive a full work day (not watching porn / listening to music all day but actual work) but they might come close. My X requires two charges (plus all night charge) not to shut down at any point. Luckily I don't want the tennis racket-sized Max and I can live with 256GB so I'd only have to pay around $1500 for a glorified pocket calculator. Sounds reasonable.
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Yes, but that 0,01% is the battery life. Wouldn't mind seeing a phone survive a work day before I die.
...got this
Smart Batt Case in Jan/'19 for my XS MAX. batt life ? ha ! no prob. almost 3 days on one charge. yeah, heard all the "...makes it too big/heavy.", BS but hey, i throw it in my back pocket & don't even notice it. Apple did a great job in putting this aux/batt case 2gthr. actually keeps the existing batt in great condition. works great w/my wireless charger as well. can't wait for when the PRO MAX Smart Batt Case becomes available ! -sI'll be getting the 11 Pro. However the 11Pro is $600 more expensive in NZ than the 11. Big price jump from 11 to 11 Pro
Rumours suggest it will be the iphone 8 body so your gonna be disappointed your "joke" doesn't work.
In the connectivity section it doesn’t mention that the iPhone 11 have 2x2mimo and the iPhone 11pro has a 4x4 mimo. This means the 11 pro should have faster LTE and also more reliable LTE
Apple's latest iPhones, the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro, are nearing their release dates on September 20. Apple is separating the new smartphones into its usual low-cost versus high-cost categories, with big differences between the two models coming down to the camera, display, and battery life.
Design
Although they look very similar, the iPhone 11 is made with an aluminum frame and both the front and back are made of glass. The iPhone 11 Pro has the same glass build as the iPhone 11, but with a premium matte finish on the back of the device. Instead of an aluminum frame, its frame is made of stainless steel.
For all three 2019 iPhones, Apple claims that its glass is the "toughest glass found in a smartphone," and promises durability if you happen to drop or otherwise accidentally harm your iPhone. For both smartphones, the square camera bump has a polished glass finish.
The iPhone 11 is 5.94 inches tall, 2.98 inches wide, and 0.33 inches thick, with a weight of 6.84 ounces. The iPhone 11 Pro is ever slightly smaller at 5.67 inches tall, 2.81 inches wide, and 0.32 inches thick, with a weight of 6.63 ounces. Of course, the iPhone 11 Pro Max is the biggest of the bunch at 6.22 inches tall, 3.06 inches wide, and 0.32 inches deep, at a total weight of 7.97 ounces.
The iPhone 11 comes in Purple, Yellow, Green, Black, White, and Product Red. The iPhone 11 Pro comes in Midnight Green, Silver, Space Grey, and Gold. All models have the same front-face notch, bezels, antenna bands, volume and side buttons, mute switch, speaker grills, microphones, and Lightning port.
Display
The iPhone 11 sports a 6.1-inch "Liquid Retina HD" LCD display, while the iPhone 11 Pro family has a sharper "Super Retina XDR" OLED display. While the LCD on the iPhone 11 provides true-to-life colors, the OLED on the iPhone 11 Pro is brighter in sunlight, can display true blacks and more detail in bright areas, and is able to support HDR movies on iTunes.
Specifically, the iPhone 11 reaches 625 nits max brightness while the iPhone 11 Pro reaches 800 nits max brightness. Both models support True Tone and Haptic Touch, but neither has support for 3D Touch, which Apple has abandoned this generation. 3D Touch provided pressure-sensitive feedback for shortcuts throughout iOS, and Haptic Touch is the somewhat similar replacement for it, without the hardware-based feedback.
The LCD display is mainly how Apple can keep the cost of the iPhone 11 down in comparison to the iPhone 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max, but it'll be more than sufficient for most users who use their iPhone to casually browse social media apps and stay connected with friends and family through Messages.
Performance
Both the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro are powered by Apple's A13 Bionic chip, which the company claims to be the fastest CPU ever in a smartphone.
In detail, the A13 Bionic features four high-efficiency cores that are up to 20 percent faster and consume 40 percent less power than the A12 Bionic, and two high-performance cores that are up to 20 percent faster and 30 percent more efficient than the previous chip.
Battery Life
This leads to improved battery life on the 2019 iPhones thanks to the more efficient A13 Bionic chip. The iPhone 11 has up to one hour longer battery life than the iPhone XR (its direct predecessor). Based on Apple's internal testing, the iPhone 11 is rated for up to 17 hours of offline video playback, up to 10 hours of streaming video over Wi-Fi, and up to 65 hours of audio playback per charge.
The iPhone 11 Pro has up to four hours longer battery life than the iPhone XS, rated for up to 18 hours of offline video playback, up to 11 hours of streaming video over Wi-Fi, and up to 65 hours of audio playback per charge.
The iPhone 11 Pro Max has the longest battery life in an iPhone to date, lasting up to five hours longer than the iPhone XS Max. It's rated for up to 20 hours of offline video playback, up to 12 hours of streaming video over Wi-Fi, and up to 80 hours of audio playback per charge.
All three models support wireless charging on any Qi-compatible mat, as well as fast charging via 18W or higher USB-C charger and Lightning to USB-C cable. This will net you up to a 50 percent charge in 30 minutes. Notably, the iPhone 11 Pro and 11 Pro Max include an 18W charger and Lightning to USB-C cable in the box, but the iPhone 11 does not include these upgraded accessories and instead comes with the previous 5W charger and Lightning to USB-A cable.
Cameras
Besides the display, the camera is one of the biggest differences between the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro, but you'll still be getting a solid smartphone camera on either device.
To start, the iPhone 11 has a dual 12-megapixel camera system, with wide (?/1.8 aperture) and ultra wide (?/2.4 aperture) lenses. With ultra wide, you can "zoom out" to 0.5x without physically moving, and capture more of a scene in the process.
It also supports the new Night Mode for improved low-light images, Auto Adjustments, optical image stabilization, digital zoom up to 5x, 2x optical zoom out, brighter True Tone flash with Slow Sync, Portrait Mode with six effects, and Smart HDR.
Comparatively, the iPhone 11 Pro camera's main difference is found in its third telephoto camera (?/2.0 aperture). This means the 11 Pro family has three total lenses: ultra wide, wide, and telephoto. You'll also get dual optical image stabilization, 2x optical zoom in, 2x optical zoom out, and digital zoom up to 10x.
The main advantage of the telephoto lens are that it allows for zooming in on distant subjects without losing much clarity in the image. Apple said that this can be seen when taking images of wildlife from afar, or when you're at a sporting event.
Across the iPhone 11 family of devices, you'll be able to use Apple's "slofies" (aka slow-motion selfies on the front-facing camera); gain access to all six Portrait Lighting effects; and take Portrait Mode photos of humans, objects, and pets.
They also all include Apple's third-generation Neural Engine, enabling next-generation Smart HDR for more natural-looking photos. Later this fall, it will enable a new Deep Fusion system that uses advanced machine learning for pixel-by-pixel processing of photos, including texture, details, and noise.
Connectivity
Both the iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro include 802.11ax Wi-Fi and Gigabit-class LTE, meaning that in terms of cellular performance all models of the 2019 iPhone should see similar statistics.
They both include Bluetooth 5.0 support and have NFC readers to support Apple Pay. On the new side of things, Apple has included its in-house designed U1 chip to enable ultra-wideband support for improved spatial awareness.
In a practical sense, this means that iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro can precisely locate other U1-equipped Apple devices. With iOS 13.1, for example, you'll be able to point your iPhone 11 to another iPhone to AirDrop a photo or file.
Storage and Pricing
You can purchase the iPhone 11 in 64GB, 128GB, and 256GB storage capacities, priced at $699, $749, and $849 respectively in the United States.
The iPhone 11 Pro is available in 64GB, 256GB, and 512GB, priced at $999, $1,149, and $1,349 respectively in the United States.
Lastly, the iPhone 11 Pro Max is available in 64GB, 256GB, and 512GB, priced at $1,099, $1,249, and $1,449 respectively in the United States.
Just the Tech Specs
Below you'll find tech specs for iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro, with each difference bolded.
iPhone 116.1-inch LCD display
Battery lasts up to 1 hour longer than iPhone XR
1792×828 resolution and 326 PPI
True Tone display
Dual 12-megapixel rear cameras (wide and ultra-wide lenses)
Single 12-megapixel front camera
Portrait Mode with Depth Control: humans, pets, and objects
Six Portrait Lighting effects
Next-gen Smart HDR
A13 Bionic chip with third-gen Neural Engine
Face ID
Haptic Touch
Lightning connector
Fast charging capable: up to 50% charge in 30 minutes
Qi-based wireless charging
IP68-rated water resistance to a depth of 2 meters for up to 30 minutes
64/128/256GB
Dual SIM (Nano-SIM and eSIM)
Gigabit-class LTE
VoLTE
802.11ax Wi-Fi 6 with MIMO
Bluetooth 5.0
Night Mode photos
Front-facing slo-mo video recording at 120 FPS
QuickTake video recording shortcut
Dolby Atmos sound
U1 chip for spatial awareness
iPhone 11 Pro5.8-inch OLED display
Battery lasts up to 4 hours longer than iPhone XS
2436x1125 resolution and 458 PPI
True Tone display
Triple 12-megapixel rear cameras (wide, ultra-wide, and telephoto)
Single 12-megapixel front camera
Portrait Mode with Depth Control: humans, pets, and objects
Six Portrait Lighting effects
Next-gen Smart HDR
A13 Bionic chip with third-gen Neural Engine
Face ID
Haptic Touch
Lightning connector
Fast charging capable: up to 50% charge in 30 minutes
Qi-based wireless charging
IP68-rated water resistance to a depth of 4 meters for up to 30 minutes
64/256/512GB
Dual SIM (Nano-SIM and eSIM)
Gigabit-class LTE
VoLTE
802.11ax Wi-Fi 6 with MIMO
Bluetooth 5.0
Night Mode photos
Front-facing slo-mo video recording at 120 FPS
QuickTake video recording shortcut
Dolby Atmos sound
U1 chip for spatial awareness iPhone 11 Pro Max specs identical to 11 Pro, except...
6.5-inch OLED display
Battery lasts up to 5 hours longer than iPhone XS Max (longest battery in an iPhone)
2688x1242 resolution and 458 PPI
Conclusion
Apple continues to offer a nice array of iPhones across the price spectrum for customers, who will have to decide whether the "pro" upgrades are worth the price. At $999 for entry-level pricing, the iPhone 11 Pro has the same great camera of the pricier 11 Pro Max models, along with the OLED display and improved battery life compared to the previous generation.
Still, those advantages might not be worth the $300 upcharge from the entry-level iPhone 11, which still offers a solid camera, Face ID, a True Tone LCD display, and more color options. Because of this, the $699 64GB iPhone 11 will likely remain a more popular option among most 2019 iPhone buyers.
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Oh I guess I always thought the 5.4" model was going to be a new base model. So you would have iPhone 12 (5.4") and iPhone 12 Max (5.1") and iPhone 12 Pro (5.8") and iPhone 12 Pro Max (6.7"). Also I really wish they would go back to saying "Plus" and abbreviate it like this: iPhone 12 Pro+. Rolls off the tongue better and doesn't look so ridiculous written out.
I would welcome a reduction of the 5.8" Pro to 5.4". I prefer my phones a little on the smaller side. I don't want to go all the way down to the SE but this one feels slightly big. But I feel like it makes more sense to have two sizes of the base iPhone, and maybe price the 5.4" at $599 with only a single camera and less battery life. That feels like a complete product line to me. People like my wife flat out refuse to upgrade from the SE because she thinks the 11 is too big and she thinks the 11 Pro is still a little too big and too expensive since she "doesn't need something that fancy."
"Oh I guess I always thought the 5.4" model was going to be a new base model. So you would have iPhone 12 (5.4") and iPhone 12 Max (5.1") and iPhone 12 Pro (5.8") and iPhone 12 Pro Max (6.7"). "
This lineup for 2020 is also within the realm of possibility. And wouldn't be bad at all. But if rumors are right and all new 2020 iPhone models will be getting OLED screens & 5G, I don't see the 5.4" coming in at $599. There's a couple of scenarios I see playing (again just guessing):
Scenario 1:
iPhone XR - $449
iPhone 11 - $599
iPhone 12 (5.4" / OLED / 5G / triple-lens camera) - $699
iPhone 12 (6.1" / OLED / 5G / triple-lens camera) - $799
iPhone Pro (6.7" / Super Retina XDR (120hz) / 5G / Pencil support / 3D laser time-of-flight camera) - $1,099
Scenario 2:
iPhone XR - $449
iPhone 11 - $599
iPhone 12 (5.4" / OLED / 5G / triplel-lens camera) - $699
iPhone 12 (6.1" / OLED / 5G / triple-lens camera) - $799
iPhone Pro (5.8" / Super Retina XDR (120hz) / 5G / 3D laser time-of-flight camera - $999
iPhone Pro (6.7" / Super Retina XDR (120hz) / 5G / Pencil support / 3D laser time-of-flight camera) - $1,099
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I have an iPhone X and I compared the regular iPhone 11 and iPhone 11 Pro side by side. I'm already quite good at detecting visual differences, but for the life of me, I can barely see any difference between the two displays. The Pro did have a tint of yellow for some reason, and dark areas were ever slightly more detailed, but I had to strain to notice the differences. Is it me or am I missing something? I couldn't even notice the difference in resolution.