So I can go buy a galaxy s21 in great condition with flagship specs and 4 years of software support for $429? That's a win!!!
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iPhone 12 Holds Its Value Over 20% Better Than Samsung Galaxy S21 Range
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And yet the most expensive smart phones are Android phones (folding phones being one example). Apple plays in the second tier.
It has been quite nice switching to Samsung and their under-screen fingerprint sensors during the pandemic and face masks. I'm a tech guy, not married to any one brand.
Although your iPhone is full of Samsung components?..so in reality you’re paying for the privilege!
yeah, Samsung phones are discounted heavily even when launched. Free Buds+, generous flat rate discounts, Perkopolis discounts, boosted trade-in values mean the phone is already hundreds of dollars off MSRP. They are already discounted at least 20%
This is actually a good time to use "fake news".
This is actually a good time to use "fake news".
Swappa shows unlocked 128GB S21 Ultra and iPhone Pro Max sold for about the same price. Initial cost, however, is usually lower with Samsung since they have better trade-in value. For example, Samsung gave me $250 trade-in for 2011 iPad 2 while Apple only offered to recycle. Plus, Samsung hardware are more future proofed and I'm not going to risk pulling down my mask in public to unlock iPhone.
So if you bought a Samsung phone at full retail price you lose a lot. Got it.
Per Samsung US website for Phone warranty:
Warranty Period
One (1) yearPer Apple US website for iPhone warranty:
Your product warranty
The Apple Limited Warranty covers your iPhone and Apple-branded accessories against manufacturing defects for one year from the date you bought your product.So care to explain how the 1 year manufacturer’s warranty for Samsung phones is longer than the 1 year warranty for Apple iphones
Ha, everyone ridiculed Apple for creating the >$999 super premium smartphone tier with the iPhone X. Then they realized Apple was able to sell quite a bit of product with the X, XS/XS Max, then even higher sales for the 11 Pro, Pro Max. Samsung copied the super premium pricing with the S10 and S20 series and saw declining sales of these flagships. Samsung had to reverse and drop prices (and strongly market the price drop) for the S21 series to get the current sales at introduction but retail prices have already predictably fallen as usual. The Note series struggles to sell 8-10M units per year and now faces extinction.
Sure, with the Samsung Fold and Flip, Samsung decided to go Ultra Premium pricing above $1500-$2000. Big whoop, what has it got them? A bit of halo effect, maybe a single million in sales each year each, nothing to sneeze at for $1.5-2B USD, maybe they recoup their R&D. Meanwhile Apple sells 75M+ iPhone 12 and others in the Dec. 2020 quarter in only 6-10 weeks at an Average sale price of $870, and the upper super premium iPhone 12 Pro Max is the second best selling model.
it would not surprise me if the iPhone 12 series combined, even though 5 months old now, still outsells the Galaxy S21 series Combined in unit numbers. We’ll see when top 10 smartphones by model research comes out for the March 2021 quarter.
Because in the rest of the world [it does exist!] Samsung offer 2 or 3 year warranty, e.g. in the UK, we get 2 year warranty on Samsung mobile phones whereas Apple only offer 1 year warranty on their phones.
As for the rest of your post, every manufacturer jumped their prices up because Apple set a new threshold, included, but they are never the real prices for Samsung phones since they always incude huge promotions on launch and then after those promotions finish, they set their real prices.
iPhone full of Samsung components? Ha, from recent IFixIt tear downs, the only Samsung parts are the OLED display and the display driver chip. That’s it. Apple uses it because Samsung is the only OLED maker who has the quality and production capacity to fulfill Apple’s sales needs.
Not even the flash ram is Samsung. Of course Apple created their own A14 chip which obliterates any Samsung Exynos CPU. And Apple sources chips from all over the world if it doesn’t build them itself.
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I stand corrected for the warranty in other parts of the world.
As for Samsung’s pricing, they and their users have realized that Samsung has no pricing power. If Samsung keeps prices at list, sales demand goes down or remains tepid. Samsung panics and starts promotions, in part because they have competition (both Apple and Androids) which steal sales away unless Samsung gets aggressive with discounting, bundling, BOGOs, etc. Samsung crows about unit sales but gives up a lot of profitability because they’ve conditioned users to expect “sales” and discounts to move inventory. Yet, Samsung loyalty is faltering, and they don’t pull many iOS users away from Apple.
Generally, the Android premium tiers are shrinking in installed base and size, and the user base willing to pay for upper end Android flagships keeps shrinking.
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Well, Apple designs and prototypes it’s own CPU’s, Neural engines, now GPU’s, power management chips, and ancillary wideband communications chips (U1). It farms out actual chip fabrication to TSMC and of course assembly to Foxconn and others under contract.
similarly, Samsung purchases various parts from other Samsung divisions (displays, memory, sensors, some CPU’s), Qualcomm CPU’s and some modems, and contracts out major portions of its assembly lines to factories in Vietnam, now India, and other countries. Samsung even partners with some Chinese ODM’s to design and have them build their cheapest phones (<$175 USD) and market them as Samsung branded.
I had my promotions on pre-order, sales numbers or panicking had nothing to do with it as it wasn't released yet.
The retail price has stayed the same in stores here since launch.
As far back as I can remember, Samsung have pre-order promotions of some form.
I'd agree with the notion that people are not as willing to spend more for a device these days, the low and mid range devices offer more bang for the buck compared to a few years ago.
Also the worst iPhones are supported by Apple OS/security updates far longer than the best Android phones. That helps their value as well.
I think Samsung own their factories in Vietnam, whereas Apple owns the equipment but the Chinese Factories are run by someone else, And Samsung builds components and sells them to Samsung right? that's not really similar.
Apple's strategy is working much much better financially though lol.
Got any info on the Chinese designed phone that Samsung markets as their own? Which model?
I have sold a Galaxy phone on eBay mint condition (UK) just few months after purchase for barely the half the price, and no discount when purchesed. Their resale value sucks.