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Whoa whoa whoa what am I doing buying an SE when I can spend $250 more for for a full screen OLED in possibly a smaller form factor?
 
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Given how much I’m using my iPad Pro 12.9 now, I’ll likely move down to the 6.1” pro version from my current 11 Pro Max version. Not that there has been anything wrong with it, and the larger size can be handy for knocking out quick work emails that include excel workbooks when on the move, but I did like my previous X for the fact that it was smaller in hand and much easier to pocket compared to my older 6S+.

Although now that I think about it, the thing that made me upgrade from the X wasn’t the size per se, but rather the poor battery life I was getting with the X. I went from needing to add charge late in the day to ensure I had enough battery to get me through to 9-10pm at night, especially while traveling for work. With the 11 Pro Max, I can often skip charging one night and get two full days of use out of it, without ever worrying. Will be interesting to see how the newest chip and 5G effect battery life.
 
I'm with you there, I do not want to spend an extra $150 to have more than 64gb. I also am not particularly interested in LiDAR. However, the Pro models are rumored to be the only ones with pro motion (120hz), and I've been spoiled by that feature on the iPad Pro, even just scrolling websites feels so smooth, so it's something I'll likely splurge for.
Good point. ProMotion is delicious on the iPad Pro, but I wonder will it have the same impact on such small screens?
 
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I wish Apple would get in their head that some people want a small pro phone. That’s a big part of what people wanted with the new SE but they didn’t get that. Why do they have to keep getting bigger screen sizes? It’s not like my hands or pants pockets are getting bigger.
I think the issue here is battery size. The more powerful the SoC, the more power demand, and a bigger battery is needed. That’s why the latest iPhone have been bigger, among other reasons.

That’s why I think battery size is going to compromise the smaller 5,4” iPhone, unless the A14 chip is really, really power efficient. At 5nm I think it will be less power hungry, but maybe Apple decides to lower a bit the clock speed or something similar...
 
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For folks who think the iPhone naming is confusing, how do you survive trips to the grocery store? o_O😂

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I'm very excited for the pricing on the 5.4" 12 and think it hits the sweet spot of features, pricing, and size if rumors hold up. Hoping to see something lighter than the iPhone 11 as well, closer to the SE weight, and it will be a Day 1 buy.
 
Yes, everyone buy the 5.4" and the non-Pro 6.1"

This will make it easier for me to purchase the Navy Blue 6.1" Pro during pre-sale.
 
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Why do people think the 5.4" size is small?
The 6s+/7/8 Plus size is 5.5" and many people now still consider that too Big!
The 5.4" size would be a good replacement for the Plus owners, hopefully having at least 1080p or better display.
Some people have reported issues with the OLED display with the PWM issue.
 
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Oh i see, I get it now. Sorry, I've misread that :)
ooops ;)


Yes, but it was $999, and thus not less than $999.
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Why? This will be still almost double so enjoy your SE and see in fall if you want exchange that. ( I wouldn't)
I'm going to hold SE for at least 2-3 years and then will upgrade. By then there will be no notch and hopefully the tech will be good. I don't like OLED :)

Almost regretting my SE 2020 purchase.
 
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I have a feeling that the 5.4" iPhone will sell like hotcakes, and Apple will be surprised by the demand for the smaller iPhone.

i think you are right.
smaller outer device physical dimensions than the new "small" device iPhone 2020 SE, but larger display dimensions than the iPhone SE 2020. a lot to like!

i do hope that this 5.4" device's PWM frequency is sufficiently high enough, or, other PWM mitigation strategy is used, to lower headaches people can get.
that's about my only concern.

otherwise, combined with a lower price point for it, it will probably become apple's #1 selling model of all time.
and double that if it comes in midnight blue!
 
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Assuming the same storage pricing we’ve seen before — $50 more to get the middle tier, $150 t reach the top tier — I’ll probably get the non-Pro iPhone 12 in the 6.1-inch size, and get 256GB for $900.
 
Gross.

Teardrop is the ugliest "solution" out of all of them.

Best is a regular top bezel. Second best is hole punch. Third best is notch.
Best is the notch. Second is the hole punch. Third is a bigger bezel.
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If Tim Cook is upholding the design standard from Steve Jobs&Apple then the iPhone 12 will 100% look like this
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He won’t be. No place for Face ID. Will still have a notch.
 
Why do people think the 5.4" size is small?
The 6s+/7/8 Plus size is 5.5" and many people now still consider that too Big!
The 5.4" size would be a good replacement for the Plus owners, hopefully having at least 1080p or better display.
Some people have reported issues with the OLED display with the PWM issue.
Because the body size on this rumored 5.4” iPhone 12 will be more like the body size of the old 6/7/8. It’s going to nearly the screen size of the old “plus” phones in a body as small or even smaller than the 4.7” models.
 
Yeah great price if you live in the US. In Australia my Pro Max 256GB was just shy of $2200. I am a big Apple fan but while they lowered the price in the US they raised them in other places to allow for that discount. They need to be aware there is a world outside of the US. I Mean Australia is closer to China than the US so we should be paying less. But alas I will upgrade anyway.
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I may be out of the loop here, but are we expecting a 6.7" screen in the same 11 Pro Max body or is the iPhone 12 Pro Max going to be slightly larger? I saw the images showing an even smaller bezel but I doubt that those alone are enough to get 5mm more screen.

And does 5G mean mm-wave support on all devices? I know that was being rumored to only be on the higher end devices in 2020.


It was be 2mm as the Pro Max is 6.5inch. But I would prefer wider than longer I think
 
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Good point. ProMotion is delicious on the iPad Pro, but I wonder will it have the same impact on such small screens?
Given how it looks on other devices out it looks great. As long as we get that on the pros and improved cameras i will be happy with that.
 
5.4in is about to be the best iPhone model of all-time.
Yeah, and would it be too much to ask for a base capacity of 128GB instead of 64GB?
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If the only differences between 12 and 12 Pro are going to be cameras + LiDAR, I’m gonna sell my iPhone X and upgrade to an iPhone 12 5.4”.

I love the idea of going back to a smaller phone without compromising too much on features.
The 12 Pro will probably have a ProMotion display and be redesigned (similar to the iPhone 4/4s/5/5s/SE 2016). Probably something else to justify the $350 price difference. Not that it will necessarily succeed on that front.
 
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Yeah, and would it be too much to ask for a base capacity of 128GB instead of 64GB?
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The 12 Pro will probably have a ProMotion display and be redesigned (similar to the iPhone 4/4s/5/5s/SE 2016). Probably something else to justify the $350 price difference. Not that it will necessarily succeed on that front.

No doubt, 128GB will become the new base model for the iPhone 12. Tim Cook need to meet the customer demand and that's how Apple can be better in making things right.
 
I’ve only had my iPhone 11 for a few days now and I absolutely love it but I would trade it in an instant for the 6.1” iPhone 12 at that price. Although, if the new Pros come in Navy Blue....it may force my hand in that direction instead.

Either way, this lineup looks to be Apple’s best yet. For the first time in what seems like years, I’m very excited to see the new iPhones.
 
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