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iPhone 12 Mini Introduced With 5.4-Inch Display, Starts at $699

ani4ani

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I'm so glad I can stop bitching about iPhones not having a small option now.

My iPhone SE has served me well for almost four years now, but I'm thinking its time for something new. :D

Rather ironic that the desired small iPhone has a bigger screen than the first Galaxy note...once the worlds largest screen smartphone. How things change
 
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MiniApple

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I'd love the 12 Mini for the smaller size and the much improved camera than the SE (2020), but it's almost twice the price of an SE (2020).

Hoping to make it to 2021 with my OG SE and then finally upgrade to the iPhone 13 Mini (or) a cheaper iPhone 12 Mini then.
 
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If a sim free iPhone 12 Mini is purchased in the US, will it work fine in the UK? There is no longer an issue of the wrong plug :s
Better 5G (new 5G bands coming the UK early next year) and an exchange rate USD - GBP saving over £100!
 
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Apple use USB-PD for their fast charging (source: https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT208137), so any PD-compatible charger will allow you to fast charge it. For me that means my Macbook Pro's charger, my Pixel 2's charger and a dual-port Anker I use as my travel charger. Shame it's still Lightning (USB-C would suit me better as I'm trying to phase out other cables) but I never expected them to do otherwise.

Or use a USB-A charger with a Lightning cable. Won't fast charge, but if you mostly charge overnight that may not matter much.
Read above, read below.
It is simply Apple's greedy move.
 
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CarlJ

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I wish they added touchID in the power button, otherwise pretty happy a company is realizing that not everyone wants a phablet.
It’s extremely likely that the hardware design was locked in place before COVID19 made mask wearing a big thing. When you’re going to be building hundreds of thousands a day, you can‘t make “last minute” changes.

But, yeah, TouchID on the power button (in addition to FaceID) would have been really nice.
 
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TraceyS/FL

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It'll be a Mini for me as well, finally replacing my totally clapped out iPhone 6. As always, the journey across the Atlantic adds 25% to the price but that's nothing new. Us Brits are used to being ripped off!
Your pricing includes VAT, ours doesn’t include taxes (probably 5-10% depending on locale).
 
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dhowartr

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Re: no chargers in the box, as others have mentioned here, most of us have USB-A type chargers, but few have USB-C type chargers, so including those with the new iPhones would have been appropriate. Including a USB-C to Lightning cable without a charging brick is unfortunate.
 
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Hadron

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Read above, read below.
It is simply Apple's greedy move.
Oh, I've no doubt that it's a cash grab with some greenwash. That's what corporations do. And as the charger costs them a small fraction of the retail price, even if they pass the saving on to you it will be negligible.

Where they will make money is from people who feel they need to buy a new Apple iPhone USB-C charger (at full retail price). So my point was just that many people will already have a fully compatible charger and won't need to buy another one - though I suspect that many who don't need one will anyway, because they'll think that the iPhone fast charger is "the right one" for their phone.

But personally I find this more forgiveable than some moves (e.g. removing the headphone jack just after they bought a headphone manufacturer and so would expect to profit from people buying new headphones...), because the last thing I'd want is yet another damned charger. The best solution really would be no charger in the box but a discount if you bought one with the phone, which would cover people who needed one without ripping anyone off.
 
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Caladbolg

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So I just found out that iPhones 12 mini sold in Canada won't have mmWave support, but the US ones do. So questions to Canadian residents (I live in Canada as well), out of curiosity: does any Canadian resident consider getting an iPhone 12 from the US?

My thoughts on this:
1) mmWave isn't really a thing yet, and it will take a long time for this technology to be commonplace enough. Importing it from the States will be more trouble than its worth (having to use things like Stackry, imports, taxes, and 2.5% FX if applicable).
2) But on the other hand, once I get a new phone, I tend to use it until I can't use the phone anymore (like shutting off suddenly at 100% battery, being slow, etc). I used my 6s for more than 5 years, so likely this will be the case with iPhone 12 mini. Will futureproofing (tech-wise) for the next few years be worth it?

I have a month to think about this, but currently leaning toward 1). But I want to hear other perspectives.
 
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B4U

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Oh, I've no doubt that it's a cash grab with some greenwash. That's what corporations do. And as the charger costs them a small fraction of the retail price, even if they pass the saving on to you it will be negligible.

Where they will make money is from people who feel they need to buy a new Apple iPhone USB-C charger (at full retail price). So my point was just that many people will already have a fully compatible charger and won't need to buy another one - though I suspect that many who don't need one will anyway, because they'll think that the iPhone fast charger is "the right one" for their phone.

But personally I find this more forgiveable than some moves (e.g. removing the headphone jack just after they bought a headphone manufacturer and so would expect to profit from people buying new headphones...), because the last thing I'd want is yet another damned charger. The best solution really would be no charger in the box but a discount if you bought one with the phone, which would cover people who needed one without ripping anyone off.
Hence I have suggested again and again that Apple can provide a voucher to claim a charger inside the box, if they are doing it purely for the environment and not greed.
Such a large corporation and still trying to nickel and dime the customers is a bitter bill to swallow.
 
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Nozuka

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I’m so thankful for Touch ID in my SE, can’t imagine having to look at, then swipe the screen every single time I take it out of my pocket. I don’t want to look at it until it’s unlocked.

This is never really a problem and if you have been waiting for it to unlock, you have been using it wrong.

- you can swipe right away and it will unlock very fast after it sees your face. since you are going to look at it anyway when you use it, it gets unlocked instantly
- very often you will likely look at the lock screen first anyway, to see if there are new notifications and then it is already unlocked
 
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bryn0076

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They're only including a USB-C to Lightning cable, nearly everyone only has USB-A bricks
Personally I was annoyed that my new Apple Watch came with an outdated USB A cable. We’d whine if they used A, we’ll whinge that they used C.

USB A is ubiquitous but old tech. We’re moving forward in time and a $20 incremental update to a power brick is no big deal (much better than the money I’m going to have to shell out on a wireless CarPlay adapter when they finally remove the port all-together).
Americans rarely pay the price displayed with taxes added at checkout. Mentally include the extra $20 into the price when you’re deciding whether to buy it. If your still salty, vote with your feet and don’t buy it.
 
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Personally I was annoyed that my new Apple Watch came with an outdated USB A cable. We’d whine if they used A, we’ll whinge that they used C.

USB A is ubiquitous but old tech. We’re moving forward in time and a $20 incremental update to a power brick is no big deal (much better than the money I’m going to have to shell out on a wireless CarPlay adapter when they finally remove the port all-together).
Americans rarely pay the price displayed with taxes added at checkout. Mentally include the extra $20 into the price when you’re deciding whether to buy it. If your still salty, vote with your feet and don’t buy it.

Oh I agree and I have plenty of USB-A and C bricks so not an issue with me, plus you can get a decent Anker or other brand USB-C brick for $10
 
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I imagine everyone has a USB-A charger...but why would anyone in Apple world have a USB-C? Maybe 10% of them?

If they have an iPad Pro, or most Macs since the MacBook from five years ago, they have either the charger or a port on their computer that'll do the job fine.
 
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The best solution really would be no charger in the box but a discount if you bought one with the phone, which would cover people who needed one without ripping anyone off.

Well that's pretty much what they've done by taking a third off the price of the charger
 
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ani4ani

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If a sim free iPhone 12 Mini is purchased in the US, will it work fine in the UK? There is no longer an issue of the wrong plug :s
Better 5G (new 5G bands coming the UK early next year) and an exchange rate USD - GBP saving over £100!

Well I’m not sure you save anything unless you were illegally importing since once duty & VAT added, it will cost more than buying locally.
 
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randian

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Looks like a great replacement for my 6S. Its charging port has worn out and it's a pain to get it to charge.
 
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Apple today introduced the iPhone 12 mini with a 5.4-inch edge-to-edge Super Retina XDR display, a new flat-edge design with new colors, 5G support, a faster A14 Bionic chip, an improved dual-lens rear camera system, and more.


6.1-inch iPhone 12 on left and 5.4-inch iPhone 12 mini on right

Equipped with an edge-to-edge display with a notch for Face ID, the iPhone 12 mini is a smaller device than the 4.7-inch iPhone 8, despite having a larger 5.4-inch display. And with a new flat-edge design, Apple says the iPhone 12 mini is 11 percent thinner, 15 percent smaller in volume, and 16 percent lighter than the 6.1-inch iPhone 11.

First introduced in the new iPad Air last month, the A14 Bionic chip is the fastest smartphone chip ever, and the first to be built on a 5-nanometer process. Apple says the six-core CPU in the A14 chip is up to 50 percent faster than any other smartphone chip. And for machine learning, the Neural Engine in the A14 chip is up to 80 percent faster than in the A13 chip.

iPhone 12 models feature a new "Ceramic Shield" front cover for improved durability, with Apple advertising 4x improved drop test performance compared to the previous-generation iPhone. Apple says the devices feature "tougher" glass than any other smartphone.

Equipped with a dual-lens rear camera system, the iPhone 12 mini's 12-megapixel Wide camera lens has an ƒ/1.6 aperture, the fastest yet on an iPhone. Apple says this lens provides 27 percent more light improved low-light photos and videos. The other lens is a 12-megapixel Ultra-Wide lens with a ƒ/2.4 aperture and 120° field of view.

On the back of the iPhone 12 models is a new magnet-based MagSafe system that allows for precise wireless charging and easy-to-attach accessories from Apple, like a leather wallet for the Apple Card, which will be available to order starting Friday.

iPhone 12 mini will be available in five aluminum finishes, including blue, green, black, white, and (PRODUCT)RED. Pre-orders begin Friday, November 6 at 5 a.m. Pacific Time, with shipments and in-store availability beginning one week later on Friday, November 13. Pricing starts at $699 with AT&T or Verizon activation, or $729 otherwise.

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Today’s more recent article says for SIM free iPhone 12 Mini’s its $30 more but this is FALSE advertising at $699 by Apple in the keynote. It should been more fourth coming of this!
Nickel and dime BS that I’m not appreciating from Apple. It’s not that I can afford it ... it’s the principle!!
 
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flur

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Today’s more recent article says for SIM free iPhone 12 Mini’s its $30 more but this is FALSE advertising at $699 by Apple in the keynote. It should been more fourth coming of this!
Nickel and dime BS that I’m not appreciating from Apple. It’s not that I can afford it ... it’s the principle!!
They’re all unlocked, right? You just get the SIM from the carrier pre-installed?
 
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DeepIn2U

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I love it.
My 2016 SE can finally retire :)
This is great, really impressed.

This iPhone 12 Mini looks HOT!
Definitely purchasing this next month !!

Sony you did great with the Xperia Compact lineup and offered great high end performance in a compact phone and then abandoned your faithful compact phone android user base.

Apple has a real hit with this model!!

PS: there is a specific reason Apple chose to use the 007 theme song for its introduction: Sony owns the rights to the James Bond movie series ;) so its a jab to Sony haha.
 
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