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jediandrew97

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I thought I was alone but not a big deal only with closeup objects and issue doesn’t seem to be present when taking video. I also notice a sound coming from the lens when using Slo-Mo and it’s when opening and closing the camera app. Probably all just software related and needs some fixes.
 
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Devhux

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Yup! I actually posted a YouTube video showing this and someone directed me to this thread.

 
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Stan.06

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The First clear picture is from my Iphone 7+ and the second blurry one is from a 12 pro taken at the same height.
I didn't notice this issue before, seems weird. I can do some more tests with a regular 12 tomorrow and post more results.
So I've tested the Iphone 12 Pro and the Iphone 12. It's probably the lidar sensor? But the 12 pro won't autofocus no matter what, even when I tap the screen manually, it stays blurry.
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Samut

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What is the minimum focus distance for Lidar? At least the face id had a minimum distance. If Lidar is always used for focusing it might explain why there are issues with focusing on Pro models. Though we have to remember that both of the phones also have a different camera modules.
 
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alFR

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What is the minimum focus distance for Lidar? At least the face id had a minimum distance. If Lidar is always used for focusing it might explain why there are issues with focusing on Pro models. Though we have to remember that both of the phones also have a different camera modules.
Wide / ultra wide cameras are the same in 12 and 12 Pro.
 
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DexBell

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Here is another video showing the issue. I believe the easiest way to replicate this is by moving away and near some texts. Comparing my old iPhone 11 pro with 12 pro side by side, you can easily tell iPhone 12 pro struggles to focus as you move closer to an object. I tried this with both the default camera app and ProCam, so it's not an issue with the stock app itself.


it’s called minimum focusing distance, and every lens Has it. The iPhone doesn’t have macro capabilities and is not going to focus on something a few inches in front of it. Are people This clueless?
 
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alFR

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it’s called minimum focusing distance, and every lens Has it. The iPhone doesn’t have macro capabilities and is not going to focus on something a few inches in front of it. Are people This clueless?
The issue is that the 12 Pro won't focus at the same distances that the 11 Pro / 12 / 7 would quite happily focus at. Actually the MFD for the iPhone camera is about 8-10cm (i.e. a few inches).
 
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MaxSto

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it’s called minimum focusing distance, and every lens Has it. The iPhone doesn’t have macro capabilities and is not going to focus on something a few inches in front of it. Are people This clueless?
C´mon.
Then tell us why the regular 12 focuses on the same distance the 12 pro does not focus right... The lenses which are used are the same in both phones.
 
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DexBell

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C´mon.
Then tell us why the regular 12 focuses on the same distance the 12 pro does not focus right... The lenses which are used are the same in both phones.
My 11Pro Max won’t focus at objects up close like the videos posted here. I just did it and can post it. No iPhone can focus on an object 2 inches in front of it. Minimum focusing distance.
 
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DexBell

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Here is my 11 Pro Max not focusing on close up objects either. None of them do, it’s called minimum focusing distance and my $2k mirrorless camera with $1800 lens won’t do it either. It’s physics.

 
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alFR

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Here is my 11 Pro Max not focusing on close up objects either. None of them do, it’s called minimum focusing distance and my $2k mirrorless camera with $1800 lens won’t do it either. It’s physics.
OK, you're either being deliberately obtuse or you're not reading anything we're writing, or both, so I'm not going to try to explain it to you any further. Have a good day.
 
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DexBell

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Now here is my iPhone when I hold the object about 6 inches from the camera and it focuses perfectly fine. There is nothing wrong with your iPhone 12 cameras people. Learn what minimum focusing distance is,



 
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DexBell

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No, but they can reliably focus at 3-3.5 inches. Well, unless they're a 12 Pro. Which is kind of the point of the thread.
no, they can’t. My first video was from about 3 inches away And it wouldn’t focus on the remote. Second video where it did focus was 6 inches away
 
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DexBell

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Garbage reply and "test". There's certainly a problem with iPhone 12 Pro focusing
Why hasn’t it come up in any of the dozens of iPhone 12 pro camera test online? It’s people who don’t know what they are doing and don’t understand minimum focusing distance who are having issues.
 
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MaxSto

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Yes that works.

But it should work closer, too, like it works with the iPhone 12 and all other predecessors.

Look at the video above of @Stan.06 and EVEN YOU should be able to recognise the focussing of the regular 12 versus the not focussing of the 12 Pro!
 
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GeoffAlex

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Don't feed the trolls people.

It is concerning the 12 Pro won't focus at the same minimum distance as the regular 12 with same camera module. I would imagine it's a software fix or somehow removing dependence on LiDAR for close focusing if that's causing it.

Either way keeping an eye on this thread.
 
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alFR

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Has anyone reported this to Apple yet?
Yes, via the product feedback page. I don’t have a developer account so I can’t file a formal bug report. Think a couple of others from here have left feedback also.
 
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TonyC28

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no, they can’t. My first video was from about 3 inches away And it wouldn’t focus on the remote. Second video where it did focus was 6 inches away
Taken from 2.5 inches with my iPhone 11. Forgive the lighting but the focus is precise.
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