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iPhone 12 Pro Max Has Smaller 3,687 mAh Battery According to Regulatory Filing

A 7% battery capacity decrease might not be such a big deal in this case, but I do not like what Apple did with iPhone 12 line battery/power management generally.

Firstly, as mentioned, batteries are of smaller physical capacity in all iPhone 12 compared to the previous generation;

Secondly, IMO MagSafe is a gimmick, just taking precious space in an iPhone which otherwise could have been filled with more battery. Ok, it charges that smaller battery at 15W, good. However, you still need to get the Apple 20W USB-C Power Adapter for 19$ extra to make it work, so the total cost of MagSafe charger is 39$ + 19$ = 58€ for less power output than 19$. To top it up, MagSafe charger uses a 1m USB-C integrated cable. Anyone with small children or pets living next to them should start questioning its longevity and Apple’s USB-C to Lightening cable shipped with every new iPhone will not help.

A side-issue, but speaking of integrated cables, the same applies to the new HomePod mini, where a pull on the cable is most likely to make that ball drop. Most other Bluetooth speakers use detachable cables, not Apple. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Rant over, folks! 😊🖐
 
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CarlJ said:
They needed room for 5G 5G 5G 5G 5G 5G 5G. Did you hear they have 5G?

Sorry, just watched a 5G super cut of the event.

The iPhone 12 Pro Max is slightly taller (2.8mm) and wider (0.3mm) than the 11 Pro Max, but it's also 0.7mm (8.6%) thinner. The 12 Pro Max has 9.5% less volume.
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I don’t think 5G is the reason here, as they still managed to reduce iPhone 12 size (with 5G and all) compared to iPhone 11.
 
noraa said:
I assume the decrease in battery size (and the overall increase in size) is at least partially due to the 5G antenna array - which by necessity is huge.
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That is probably why iPhone 12 mini is coming out later - they literally need more time to squeeeeeze that huge 5G antenna array in there! Poor Apple, not. 😋 If this were true, iPhone 12 would also be bigger than its predecessor (iPhone 11), yet it is the other way around - iPhone 12 is considerably smaller than 11.
 
Murdock12 said:
I’m surprised no major phone manufacturer has ever made an extended capacity battery version of a phone. In the GPS smartwatch market, Coros came out with a watch that boasted twice the battery life of the best Garmins and it made them a legitimate player overnight.
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Because powerbanks exist. They're cheap, come in various shapes and sizes and they don't compromise the bulk and weight of the device. Just bring a small flat powerbank and a cable (there's Qi ones too) and keep the phone's battery between 20% and 80% to keep it healthy for years. The powebank can also charge your other devices and the devices of other people. At gatherings or parties, you can either meet new people by hanging out outside with the smokers or you can be the person with precious stored electricity to keep the phone addiction going. :cool:

IMO a device should last a long day with normal use, you just charge it up when you go sleep or fast-charge it when getting ready in the morning. There's no use having it last half a day longer because then it will run empty in the middle of the day.

There's lots of little tricks that can make your battery last way longer. "low power mode" goes a long way but it does turn off a few things that you actually want. You can replicate what it does by turning background refresh, camera privileges, location services and notifications off for every single app except where you actually want them. I like location services enabled for the camera app so every picture has the location embedded in it.

I'm sure companies are working on phone cases with built-in MagSafe powerbanks. They're probably gonna be bulky and heavy (you want good protection around the battery so it doesn't deform and ignite when you drop it).
 
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myrtlebee said:
Does anybody really prefer a thinner phone over more battery?
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Of course. But don’t forget more battery equals more weight, and people probably care a lot more about weight than thickness per se.

The 12 Pro Max is already heavier than the 11 Pro Max, weighing in at 228 g—over half a pound. If it were as thick as the 11 Pro Max and filled with battery, it would be even heavier.

Apple thinks more people want lighter phones than want even longer-lasting phones. Are they wrong?
 
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myrtlebee said:
Does anybody really prefer a thinner phone over more battery?
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I have thoroughly enjoyed the battery gains on the 11 Pro compared to my old 8, and never once thought of it as thicc or considered the size a compromise. Trim the bezels, fine, but they didn't have to slim it down. Just my $0.02
 
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So dumb, just leave the battery bigger and improve battery life instead of aiming to keep it constant every year. Same logic goes for all their mobile products.
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Abazigal said:
For me, battery life matters up to the point where it comfortably gets me through a day. You don’t miss what you don’t need.
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I’d like a return to the old Nokia days where batteries lasted days.
 
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CarlJ said:
They needed room for 5G 5G 5G 5G 5G 5G 5G. Did you hear they have 5G?

Sorry, just watched a 5G super cut of the event.

The iPhone 12 Pro Max is slightly taller (2.8mm) and wider (0.3mm) than the 11 Pro Max, but it's also 0.7mm (8.6%) thinner. The 12 Pro Max has 9.5% less volume.
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You should consider making a bigger deal about this
 
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UK-MacAddict said:
So dumb, just leave the battery bigger and improve battery life instead of aiming to keep it constant every year. Same logic goes for all their mobile products.
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I’d like a return to the old Nokia days where batteries lasted days.
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We will eventually, but would you also like to return to the old Nokia days of cripplingly limited functionality? Because that’s how that battery life was achieved back then. Now that kind of battery life will only be possible with absurd physical dimensions, or a real battery breakthrough.
 
JPack said:
This is incorrect. Apple discloses battery capacities for all their products. They are legally obligated to do so.

The info is listed on the bottom of this page:

www.apple.com

Legal - Global Trade Compliance - Apple

www.apple.com
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the thing is although Apple has to legally disclose the battery and your right about that, i would expect to find that under tech specs or compare iPhone page but you don’t find them there but the link you mentioned


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Secondly, IMO MagSafe is a gimmick, just taking precious space in an iPhone which otherwise could have been filled with more battery. Ok, it charges that smaller battery at 15W, good. However, you still need to get the Apple 20W USB-C Power Adapter for 19$ extra to make it work, so the total cost of MagSafe charger is 39$ + 19$ = 58€ for less power output than 19$. To top it up, MagSafe charger uses a 1m USB-C integrated cable. Anyone with small children or pets living next to them should start questioning its longevity and Apple’s USB-C to Lightening cable shipped with every new iPhone will not help.

A side-issue, but speaking of integrated cables, the same applies to the new HomePod mini, where a pull on the cable is most likely to make that ball drop. Most other Bluetooth speakers use detachable cables, not Apple. 🤷🏻‍♂️

Rant over, folks! 😊🖐
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ok first of all you don’t have to buy a Apple 20 W usb power adapter to use MagSafe since you can use a cheap 15w USB C brick (and you said it yourself that it charges at 15W so why are you only mentioning the Apple 20W usb C brick as there is far cheaper ones around)

and secondly although I can agree to an extent regarding the HomePod mini but then there are other smart speakers in that category as well that can be affected like the google home/nest mini regarding cable length and size( although the cables detach from the minis unlike the HomePod mini)
 
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Freeangel1 said:
fix one thing
break another


Next years model selling point. We've increased the battery capacity

and now latest update of Windows 10 looks more and more like MacOs with the latest translucent menu changes
They want the Apple faithful to finally switch to Windows and feel at home doing so.
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I made the jump to Windows this year and I don’t regret it.
 
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noraa said:
I assume the decrease in battery size (and the overall increase in size) is at least partially due to the 5G antenna array - which by necessity is huge.
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I am pretty sure that it’s because of the MagSafe’s connector.
 
myrtlebee said:
Does anybody really prefer a thinner phone over more battery?
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Don't everyone? I notice how thin it is every time I have it in my pocket. I notice the weight every time I hold it.
I don't really notice the battery, at all. It has enough battery to hold a day. I charge it when I sleep.

I'd prefer the iPhone to get even thinner actually.
 
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menist said:
I’m not going to make any excuses, if it’s bad, I’ll send it back, stick with my 8+ or get a refurb 11 pro Max. I can imagine next week, people telling people that’s having battery life issues, to turn off 5G. That’s not acceptable, so much for “Hi, Speed”.
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I am not even bothered about 12 Pro Max or even 13 Pro Max for that matter with my 11 Pro Max! Current form factor sort of hitting its limits on innovation.

I love XS Max design and the cameras all look excellent. 12 is probably for 6-8 owners. Certainly X generation can skip this one unless they go for bigger screen. Mini is a great compromise for those from >= X - 11 family.
 
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