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Good! People are waiting for iPhone 14 now, it’s simple as that.
Probably a significant number of people with an 11 Pro, XS, maybe even an X think they can wait until a notch-less 14 Pro (or with a small pill cutout for FaceID) comes out in 9 months. Probably a good number of people are also a little superstitious with the number 13. They’ll also get a massive camera upgrade so why not wait another 9 months for an iPhone that will look different immediately to others.
 
It wasn't going to continue selling in huge amounts when everyone who wanted one has brought one. Personally i think the iPhone is starting to get a little dull, i'm more taken with my S21 Ultra than i am with my iPhone 13 Pro Max. That has to be a first for me, i've been an iPhone guy for many years.
 
People should do like me until they don’t add usb c on… you don’t don’t buy a new one!

After seen that users will complain for the large files transfer for 4K high res film files we will maybe have it soon and come on eu kil the ass of Tim!
 
Why should I try ordering a new iPhone when they seem to be available just about nowhere.
 
I even own a 13 Pro Max and think it's a minor upgrade over a 12. Let's not kid ourselves here, there's no massive changes. Heck even the photos I take look almost identical to the 11 Pro it replaces, admittedly I'm no professional photographer.

Owned all three, you’re wrong; big upgrade in some very important areas, especially display, battery, camera, and general performance
 
Makes sense. Minor “upgrade” from a 12. Plus people may be opting for lower cost iPhone models as well.

If only the lead time for the new MacBook Pro would improve. I’m waiting till late January till mine arrives.
You lrobably have a point there, the oeop,e that wanr this years model now, has probably allreafy pre ordererd/ got theirs, and now that the rouner mill has started up aboute a 5G iPhone SE early next year peopke that want a 5 G iphone but can't afford, ir wont (for any reason whats so ever) spend the money for a top tier iphone might just hold off until they can get the upgrades SE
 


Apple has informed some of its component suppliers that demand for the iPhone 13 models is slowing ahead of the holidays, reports Bloomberg. Reports of weakening demand come as delivery estimates for the iPhone 13 and 13 Pro have started to improve, with the devices available to ship before Christmas.

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Apple in October cut 2021 iPhone 13 production by as many as 10 million units because of industry wide chip shortages. Apple was planning to produce 90 million iPhone 13 models in 2021, but Broadcom and Texas Instruments were unable to deliver enough components.

According to Bloomberg, Apple was aiming to make up the shortfall in 2022 when supplies improve, but Apple has now informed vendors that it may not end up getting the necessary orders from customers.

During Apple's fourth quarter earnings call in October, Apple CEO Tim Cook said that the supply constraints on iPhones, iPads, and Macs had already cost Apple around $6 billion, and that the supply issues would continue into December.

At launch, available iPhone 13 and iPhone 13 Pro models sold out quickly, and for a good month after launch, there were long lead times on shipments. Cook said during the call that Apple was "working feverishly" to boost iPhone 13 supplies, and it appears that stock is now catching up with demand.

Article Link: iPhone 13 Demand Weakening Ahead of Holidays, Apple Tells Suppliers


“Apple” says? or Bloomberg says?

This is baloney :)
 
Apple is obviously doomed.

Bloomberg headlines to pump the stock
- the car is coming in 2025, earlier than expected! the project is now at full throttle!

Bloomberg headlines to dump the stock
- don’t expect to drive an Apple car in 2025
- Apple loses major car executive
- Apple tells suppliers people don’t want iPhones anymore

Somebody needs to buy some AAPL at a discounted price after the recent pump.
 
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Ill decline splashing out over 1K for a new iPhone until 'all' the below boxes are ticked:

No Notch
Periscope Lens
mmwave (in the UK)
6e

Until then, the yearly upgrades are merley window dressing
 
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Makes sense. Minor “upgrade” from a 12. Plus people may be opting for lower cost iPhone models as well.

If only the lead time for the new MacBook Pro would improve. I’m waiting till late January till mine arrives.

The iPhone 13 is not there for the people already using the iPhone 12. It’s for the people who are still using a 3-4 year old iPhone.
 
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Bring forth the iPhone 14. I want new design, more optical zoom, more mega pixels in the sensors, reduced notch (or eliminated) and those little improvements that they do every year. I'll buy it.
 
Very true. The 13 is a minor upgrade year-over-year from the 12. I'll go as far to say you shouldn't upgrade to a 13 if you already have a 12.

But... how many of the billion iPhones out in the world are actually last year's 12 series? Not that many.

There are still PLENTY of iPhone 11, Xs, X, 8, etc out there whose owners could upgrade to the 13.

iPhones are pretty good these days and can last a long time. Hardly anyone is replacing an iPhone after just one year... and even two years is becoming rare.

So remember that the next time someone says "this new iPhone isn't much different than last year's iPhone"

It's not for them.

:p
I am one of those 8Plus owners who will not upgrade. And why? We are still in the middle of a pandemic with mask wearing requirements and having Touch ID makes far more sense than Face ID for my personal use case.
Then: the 8 Plus is fast enough for me. For photos: the 13 is not that of a compelling upgrade. Still only 12 MP. For day to day usages my 8 Plus will take ok pictures. If I need better quality ones, I will take my DSLR and enjoy the process of photography. For what it is, the 13 is way too expensive IMHO.
 
The iPhone 13 Pro Max finally convinced me to upgrade coming from an 8 Plus.
Amazing device, with the crazy fast A15, infinite battery life, 120Hz display, U1 chip for precise Find My airtags, tons of RAM, the new (already introduced with the 12 Pro Max) larger resolution, etc.
I think the 12 Pro/Max guys got the worst deal in a while because the 13 Pro/Max in many ways is so much better (like even just ProMotion, c’mon, are you guys kidding?) but at the same time it is too early for them to be interested in an upgrade.

Anyone with XS or older: run to the store now to buy a 13 Pro/Max (or 13 if that’s your thing).
 
I am one of those 8Plus owners who will not upgrade. And why? We are still in the middle of a pandemic with mask wearing requirements and having Touch ID makes far more sense than Face ID for my personal use case.
Then: the 8 Plus is fast enough for me. For photos: the 13 is not that of a compelling upgrade. Still only 12 MP. For day to day usages my 8 Plus will take ok pictures. If I need better quality ones, I will take my DSLR and enjoy the process of photography. For what it is, the 13 is way too expensive IMHO.

Yeah, I still miss Touch ID (Apple Watch tackles the issue of unlocking your phone and Apple Pay but not the need to authenticate for apps and iCloud Keychain), but I am enjoying the significantly better battery life on my 13 pro max.
 
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TouchID nostalgics for sure are a vocal minority. Kinda like “Mini phone” aficionados (then, when Apple finally makes a Mini phone, people make Apple retire it because of disappointing sales).

Anybody else appreciates the sheer convenience of FaceID.

ps: people with a dry skin cannot use TouchID, so that’s FaceID or passcode for them (source: I’m one of them)
 
TouchID nostalgics for sure are a vocal minority. Kinda like “Mini phone” aficionados (then, when Apple finally makes a Mini phone, people make Apple retire it because of disappointing sales).

Anybody else appreciates the sheer convenience of FaceID.

ps: people with a dry skin cannot use TouchID, so that’s FaceID or passcode for them (source: I’m one of them)
Count me into the dry skin brigade.
 
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The delivery time - on Pro, ProMax models sure dipped in my area. It was 3-4 even 6 weeks about one week ago. Still 8-15 days...but better.

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Same in my area, which, despite all attempts I've had at talking myself into keeping my 11PM, finds me YET again thinking.....what the hell, maybe get it and then get the 14PM in a year anyway.

Rolls eyes....at myself.
 
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