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This sucks … I’m using an XR . It’s shoot 194 grams and fell it’s a brick. I was going to buy the 13 pro but now reconsidering . Imagine adding 30 + grams to that with a case?
 
Yep, hard pass. My 12 is already thick and heavy enough. Keeping my 12 and waiting for the 14. Unlike the new iPad mini 6 (which I ordered immediately) the 13 is the very definition of an incremental update. Should have been called the 12s.
What are you comparing it to?

The reason my wife got a 12 was is because it was lighter than her 6s+ with a slightly bigger screen. The 12 is one of the LIGHTEST phones per inch Apple ever built.
 
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Looking forward to the reviews of the 13 (Pro). Last time when the phones got marginally thicker/heavier (11 Pro) the actual battery life increases were much more than Apple claimed. This could address the biggest gap of the 12 lineup.
 
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Apple Support told me the 12 Pro Silicone case will fit the 13 Pro. I’m guess fits but not perfectly (I seem to recall this was the case for a previous generation transition as well) - behind just the overall thickness, the 12 Pro case bevels inward toward the camera while the 13 Pro case looks to have a protruding lip around likely a thicker camera bump (so 12 Pro case probably won’t protect 13 Pro camera bump when laid down)
Yeah, the 13 Pro cases are segregated from the 12 Pro cases at the Apple online store, which indicates they are not interchangeable.
 
Is this the first time Apple have gone thicker?
Funny, but actually the iPhone 6 was the low point in thickness (or high point in thinness) and they've been porking up ever since, though the 12's actually took a big backslide and reset things a bit. The 11's were HEFTY.
 
Yep, hard pass. My 12 is already thick and heavy enough. Keeping my 12 and waiting for the 14. Unlike the new iPad mini 6 (which I ordered immediately) the 13 is the very definition of an incremental update. Should have been called the 12s.
Exactly the same here. Excited by the Mini and ordered one, will stick with my iPhone 12. I was distinctly underwhelmed with the new iPhone and I think it is the first one I won't be getting since the iPhone 3.
 
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I think you have it backward my friend. Promotion is just a fancy name for 120hrtz screen. That feature eats up battery life worse than 5g. All models have the same modem. Only difference is the 120hrtz screen, one more GPU core, slightly brighter 1200 vs 1000 screen, and of coarse the camera. The 6.1 promodel should have worse battery life, not better, other than the pro max. Probably the worse battery life of any iphone 13.

Apple never goes into specifics. Makes it impossible to know for certain what modems are in each model. Normally it would be the same in all of them. But Qualcomm is requiring a premium fee for their X60 modems, I wouldn't be surprised if Apple didn't want to use them for all the models. With that being said, they do claim all models supports additional 5G frequencies which points to them all using the X60 and not the X55.

When it comes to ProMotion it's more than simply having 120Hz. ProMotion could easily be implemented on the iPhone ages ago with both LCD and OLED screens at 60Hz. Adaptive refresh rate is not linked to any specific Hz on a display. Apple could apply the same ProMotion feature of dynamically adjusting refresh rates between 10Hz to 60Hz like they are doing on the iPad Pro and now the iPhone 13 Pro between 10Hz to 120Hz. There is no reason why they would need a display capable of reaching 120Hz to implement it.

This is why going 120Hz doesn't mean you will see added battery usage. The iPhone 12 Pro doesn't have adaptive refresh rate at all. The screen is running at 60Hz at all times. The iPhone 13 Pro will be dynamically changing between 10Hz to 120Hz based on the content and what you are doing. For most users the average refresh rates when using the iPhone 13 Pro will most likely be below 60Hz, making you spend more time at a lower refresh rates using these phones compared to iPhone 12 Pro. Unless you are one playing games or actively scrolling all the time you are going to spend most of your time at 10hz. And when watching video and TV shows you are going to spend your time at 24Hz and 30Hz most of time time. Using iPhone 12 Pro you would be at 60Hz all the time while doing this.
 
Turns out in the UK, the iPhone 12 dropped £130, which is great because I planned to get one for my wife, but the iPhone 13 now gives you more storage for the same price, meaning that the difference in price between iPhone 12 and 13 is only £50. Not worth getting an iPhone 12 really, unless you are going for the cheapest one - the 64GB
 
Cue the rants about ranters.
A lot of Appleaniacs including myself are disappointed today. If the core isn’t happy the masses won’t be happy which means concerning year ahead for our most loved brand.

Blind love is bad love.
I love the smell of passive aggression in the morning. It smells like… insecurity.
 
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Unfortunately? Even though it means better battery and camera?

Do you have issues lifting 200 grams?
Thinner, lighter, faster should always be the direction for mobile devices. Battery life is already fine.
 
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Thinner, lighter, faster should always be the direction for mobile devices. Battery life is already fine.
Not at all. Phones are already more than thin and light enough, but battery life has plenty of room for improvement.
 
Now this really sucks and it can't get any heavier. I even switched to the 12 from the 12 pro, due to the heavy weight which really bothered me with discomfort.
 
Did the button layout change as rumored or not? I can't find any info on this anywhere. My case has a little give so I'd think .2 mm thicker it would still fit.
 
Everyone’s entitled to their own opinion, but some people really need to have a good hard look at themselves when griping about such small dimensional increases.

The change to the thickness over a 12 Pro Max is 0.25mm = 0.0098” = 3 times the thickness of a human hair.

The increase in weight over a 12 Pro Max is 12g = 0.42oz = The approximate weight of 12 peanuts.

Toughen up weaklings!
 
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