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Good to know that it is supported. But for majority of users it will be irrelevant
 
Should they not have included 802.11ac or 5GHz bands either? These routers are about to start becoming the norm very quickly. This seems like a poorly thought out and short sighted statement.
As compared to your passive aggressive strawman statement?
 
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What apple phones did not have the latest and greatest? Really? You want a list of features that were late to the game? Try 3G? LTE? 5G? OLED? Let’s start there.
No, I said the iPhone 12, not every Apple iPhone ever made. That being said, 2G was an unfortunate choice for the first iPhone. Apple fixed that with the very next iPhone.

LTE...the iPhone 5 was introduced about a year after AT&T went live with LTE over Bands 4 and 17. That's not an unreasonable wait time for the networks to build out their infrastructure before introducing an update to your mobile phone to support the new network.

5G...the iPhone 12 line all has 5G and it was available about 12-18 months after widespread deployment of 5G around the world. Again, given the issues 5G has had, I don't think that was an unreasonable wait time before Apple added it to the iPhone.

OLED...well, that was 2017 when the iPhone X came out and it did take Apple a long time to come out with OLED. Took them a while, but now their OLED displays generally surpass anything coming from the Android camp.

Oh. And iPhone 12 doesn’t have high refresh rates. Competition has had it for years.
High refresh rates weren't really a thing until 2019 and even then it was a battery suck with a toggle switch. Rumors have Apple working on high refresh rate iPhones at least back to 2018, but not being satisfied with their battery consumption. The forums seems split as to whether or not 120Hz display is all that important.

Wi-Fi 6E support ins't a bad thing, but given Wi-Fi 6 deployment at this point, its not some huge dealbreaker.
 
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I love the speed of my Wi-Fi 6 router. I do not know if Linksys have upgrade my software for 6E wi-fi. The speed and stability I getting I am happy with, so I do not really care to inquire about the 6E.
 
Should they not have included 802.11ac or 5GHz bands either? These routers are about to start becoming the norm very quickly. This seems like a poorly thought out and short sighted statement.
They might become the norm for commercial deployment, but unless you have to have the latest tech in your home and are wiling to pay for it, consumer uptake is just not going to be that great. 802.11AC serves the purpose for the vast majority of consumers now and even 802.11N works for a lot of people. The cost of Wi-Fi 6 routers ($229 and up) is just too expensive compared to Wi-Fi 5 routers that most people would find perfectly fine for their homes and small businesses. Once Wi-Fi 6 routers come down in price or become the norm in internet equipment from the ISP, then they'll see more uptake. Until then, they'll be niche.
 
Once Wi-Fi 6 routers <snip> become the norm in internet equipment from the ISP, then they'll see more uptake. Until then, they'll be niche.
This. Probably 95% of people just use their ISP provided equipment which only gets upgraded when they shift from ADSL>CABLE>FIBRE
 
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I thought the whole point of "simplifying" the naming conventions for WiFi protocols was to keep it simple with a single number digit for each iteration... but now they're adding letters to the end of the numbers and eventually no one is going know what letter version of the number is the latest... which defeats the whole point of simplifying it. I guess we can't have nice things.
 
I just got a new Asus Wifi 6 router last night (AX86U). I haven't unboxed it yet. The 6E stuff is way too expensive for any perceived benefits. This dang thing was already $250.

Originally I planned to get a prosumer/commercial wifi-6 AP, but after waiting months on backorder from both Unifi and TP-Link, I said screw it and ordered the best router I could find at Best Buy. :D
 
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Of course range is better than speed.

Most people I know don't even have a 5 GHz network and are still stuck with 2,4 GHz.

they may not even be aware that they have it. i dont think any of the major ISPs have given out a non-wifi 5 (802.11ac) router or gateway in years. those friends stuck with 2.4ghz, if they indeed dont actually have the tech on hand, should definitely ask the ISP to swap their devices.

i'm also making the assumption they didnt buy their own router, as someone doing that would have upgraded by now...
 
They might become the norm for commercial deployment, but unless you have to have the latest tech in your home and are wiling to pay for it, consumer uptake is just not going to be that great. 802.11AC serves the purpose for the vast majority of consumers now and even 802.11N works for a lot of people. The cost of Wi-Fi 6 routers ($229 and up) is just too expensive compared to Wi-Fi 5 routers that most people would find perfectly fine for their homes and small businesses. Once Wi-Fi 6 routers come down in price or become the norm in internet equipment from the ISP, then they'll see more uptake. Until then, they'll be niche.
WiFi 6 is being rapidly adopted, you can find affordable WiFi 6 routers quite easily. WiFi 6E will be widely adopted in the next few years, you might have issues affording a new router but we don't all have those same limitations.
 
basic rule: if I can not notice it as a user, it does not matter. If I give someone Wifi5 iphone and Wifi6 iPhone and they can't tell the difference it does not matter. No need to bring out the signal measurement tools.
 
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Oh, so that is just a rendering.
Got so excited that we can finally use the Arnold case. 🤣
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I love the speed of my Wi-Fi 6 router. I do not know if Linksys have upgrade my software for 6E wi-fi. The speed and stability I getting I am happy with, so I do not really care to inquire about the 6E.
You can't. It needs a new WiFi radio modem chip that specifically supports the 6 GHz band used by WiFi 6e. WiFi 6 routers that support 802.11ax only support the 2.4 and 5 GHz bands.
 
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WiFi 6 is being rapidly adopted, you can find affordable WiFi 6 routers quite easily. WiFi 6E will be widely adopted in the next few years, you might have issues affording a new router but we don't all have those same limitations.
Sure, with commercial customers.
And ISPs, which will lead to wide adoption by default, because the on premises equipment being offered by the ISP will be free or at a small rental to the end consumer, NOT because the average consumer is chomping at the bit to buy an overpriced router from Linksys/NetGear/et al. because the average consumer doesn’t give two sh*ts about the wireless technology in their phone, tablet or computer.

I have zero issues affording a $300 router, I just have zero justification to get a new router, which is where the vast majority of people end up falling unless their router breaks. I buy my own modem and router, but I buy it for multi year use, not until the next speed tier comes along, which is where we’re at, despite any other technical advantages of Wi-Fi 6, because it is an esoteric argument to all but 5% of people in the world. You’re conflating you caring with everyone caring, which is the tech enthusiast’s conceit that prevent them from ever understanding that most people just don’t give a sh*t, money or no money involved. This is the myopia that tech forums constantly see when technologists believe they understand the average consumer’s psychology, but they don’t.

It’s the same myopia that drives techies insane when Apple doesn’t crash and burn because the iMac is selling despite having a rainbow color palette or the iPhone 12 still doesn’t have 120Hz refresh or there is no $1299 Intel slot box. The tech is more important to you than understanding the forces actually driving it or not, because you want it, you assume it will succeed. Your response to me reads like marketing fluff or a hostage statement, or both.
 


The iPhone 13 set to launch later this year will feature the improved WiFi 6E protocol, offering users access to an extended version of the WiFi 6 framework with the added benefit of a 6GHz band, according to DigiTimes.

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Apple introduced WiFi 6 with the iPhone 11 in 2019, and compared to the previous WiFi 5 framework, WiFi 6 offers significantly improved speeds and security. WiFi 6E adds minimal changes compared to WiFi 6 except for an added 6GHz band, which will result in increased bandwidth and less interference for devices that support Wi-Fi 6E.

DigiTimes says that as Apple plans to include the newer framework in this year's flagship model, it will slowly become the standard for iOS and Android devices next year, despite only being announced early last year.
Today's report also further reiterates past reports that the LiDAR sensor, currently exclusive to the high-end Pro and Pro Max iPhone 12 models, will remain exclusive to those variants. Reports earlier in the year casted the possibility of LiDAR expanding to all models of the lineup; however, that's increasingly unlikely to be the case.
The iPhone 13 is expected to be a minor upgrade compared to the iPhone 12, with rumors of more advanced displays, improved cameras, and a smaller notch. Learn more about what we're expecting for this year's new iPhone.

Article Link: iPhone 13 Rumored to Feature WiFi-6E Offering Improved Speed and Range

I'm just hoping THAT black comes to the entire lineup! ;)
 
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