iPhone 13 Rumored to Feature Wi-Fi 6E Offering Improved Speed and Range

[Realityck]

There’s going to be 7 160MHz wide channels available without DFS.

WiFi 6E is a huge upgrade. Especially for anyone living in an apartment as the 6GHz signal has slightly lower propagation levels than 5GHz and absolutely massive channel width without overlaps.

This is all reaching diminishing gains in the real world. You know good old 5GHz 802.11ac can do 433 Mbps up to several gigabits per second. What the heck does a iPhone need the WiFi speed for when you can't get a decent 1 Gbps Fiber most places. Yes I am happy its future proof.

What I love is the various Mesh and WiFI router companies all selling WiFi6 products at a premium instead of pricing it reasonable. Yes as Apple_Robert said most are going to be using their existing wifi setups until they die.

 

[ouruniverse06131986]

I don’t care about whatever wifi or 5G or camera it has. I literally been waiting for a 1TB iPhone since when it was introduced with the iPad and some of you might say why you need all that much space or tips to save stuff to the cloud yeah, yeah, yeah I’m not explaining it again.
Well, this is the iPhone that might be a chance that could come with 1TB.

if it does I’ll buy it if it doesn’t I’ll keep my iPhone 11 until apple releases one with 1TB.

 

[Analog Kid]

Grammer Nazi here, isn't past tense of 'cast' also cast, rather than 'casted'?

Try using it in a sentence: “Kelsey Grammer was casted as a Nazi.”

 

[tsa1]

I’m still hoping retractable antennas make a comeback I want 5 bars all the time y’all!

 

[827538]

This is all reaching diminishing gains in the real world. You know good old 5GHz 802.11ac can do 433 Mbps up to several gigabits per second. What the heck does a iPhone need the WiFi speed for when you can't get a decent 1 Gbps Fiber most places. Yes I am happy its future proof.

What I love is the various Mesh and WiFI router companies all selling WiFi6 products at a premium instead of pricing it reasonable. Yes as Apple_Robert said most are going to be using their existing wifi setups until they die.

Because the 5GHz can only do 3 80MHz channels and that's with DFS. 6GHz can do 7 160MHz without DFS. Coming from experience with network engineering, this is massive. If you live in a densely populated area there's a very high chance your WiFi channel is overlapping with someone else's. With the 6GHz band there's a high chance you'll have a free channel so the real world through put will be much higher.

TLR the 6GHz band offers massive real world improvements over 2.4GHz and 5GHz.

 

[xmach]

well, so much for that rumor (the iPhones 13 do not include Wi-Fi 6E). Thanks DigiTimes.

 

[collin_]

well, so much for that rumor (the iPhones 13 do not include Wi-Fi 6E). Thanks DigiTimes.

Yeah and I’m really confused about this. They’re usually so good about supporting the latest wifi standards.

My theory is that they want to upgrade to both wifi 6E and bluetooth 5.2 simultaneously. They use Broadcom modems, and it appears that there isn’t yet a Broadcom modem that supports bluetooth 5.2.

 

[xmach]

Yeah and I’m really confused about this. They’re usually so good about supporting the latest wifi standards.

My theory is that they want to upgrade to both wifi 6E and bluetooth 5.2 simultaneously. They use Broadcom modems, and it appears that there isn’t yet a Broadcom modem that supports bluetooth 5.2.

What would be the benefit of simultaneously going from Wi-Fi 6 --> 6E and Bluetooth 5.0 --> 5.2? Of course the more recent Bluetooth standard has some modest advantages, but why should that get in the way of the Wi-Fi upgrade (which probably has a much greater real-world effect)? What would Apple lose by transitioning to 6E as soon as possible, and then subsequently doing the same for Bluetooth 5.2?

 

[collin_]

What would be the benefit of simultaneously going from Wi-Fi 6 --> 6E and Bluetooth 5.0 --> 5.2? Of course the more recent Bluetooth standard has some modest advantages, but why should that get in the way of the Wi-Fi upgrade (which probably has a much greater real-world effect)? What would Apple lose by transitioning to 6E as soon as possible, and then subsequently doing the same for Bluetooth 5.2?

Honestly not sure that’s just the only thing I can come up with as this is such a baffling situation. I’m starting to think maybe the silicon shortage had something to do with this.

 

[xmach]

Honestly not sure that’s just the only thing I can come up with as this is such a baffling situation. I’m starting to think maybe the silicon shortage had something to do with this.

Possibly.

It might be relevant that Samsung was the first (I think) to introduce Wi-Fi 6E in their Galaxy S21 line in January 2021. However, notably, Samsung only included 6E in their top-of-the-line S21 Ultra (about equivalent to Apple's iPhone Pro Max?); the middle S21+ and low-end S21 (regular) got only Wi-Fi 6 (not 6E).

I assume Samsung made this decision based on chip availability and/or price considerations. Apple probably did too.

 

[HDFan]

This is all reaching diminishing gains in the real world. You know good old 5GHz 802.11ac can do 433 Mbps up to several gigabits per second.

If you live in a densely populated area there's a very high chance your WiFi channel is overlapping with someone else's.

Absolutely. I'm competing with ~44 other networks. With 6E there would be no, or little, contention for quite some time.

 

[Tagbert]

Possibly.

It might be relevant that Samsung was the first (I think) to introduce Wi-Fi 6E in their Galaxy S21 line in January 2021. However, notably, Samsung only included 6E in their top-of-the-line S21 Ultra (about equivalent to Apple's iPhone Pro Max?); the middle S21+ and low-end S21 (regular) got only Wi-Fi 6 (not 6E).

I assume Samsung made this decision based on chip availability and/or price considerations. Apple probably did too.

Apple's volumes are usually higher than any other single vendor, so it is possible that they could not get sufficient supplies of newer Wifi modem chips. that is often seen as a factor in why Apple delays introducing a hardware feature,( like the LTPO displays that finally launched this year).

 

[73CortinaV8]

"WiFi 6E adds minimal changes compared to WiFi 6 except for an added 6GHz band, which will result in increased bandwidth and less interference for devices that support Wi-Fi 6E."

minimal? The new frequency is the biggest change to wifi in 20 years.