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Color not an important feature here. We do a good deal of outdoor activities. Have cases that support each activity. Kayaking, case with Lenard that is long and attaches to PFD. The point, they all coverup the iPhone colors. Therefore black it is.
 
Waiting for Apple to figure it and put color E Ink paper under the glass and the user can make it any color or patterns they want from rainbow to camouflage to polka dots and barber stripes to custom wallpaper.
THAT would be the next killer feature. :cool:
Wallpaper on both sides?

Now that is indeed a very outlandish concept of "killer feature"...
 
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Also, Apple needs to get away from the pastel colors of the 11 and 12, and more close to something like the XR.
I swear it’s like every year ever since the product red 7+, the red just gets less and less… red.
Same with most of the other colors honestly.
I miss the old iPod colors, they were super bright, super shiny, premium but fun, and also there was a lot of them.
Remembering the 4th gen iPod nano that came in nine different colors.
Still using the blue one for the kids. I love how long Apple products last.
 
Hopefully there are no issues with the black color like there was with other models.
 
Wish they kept the Pacific Blue for this year. I didn't upgrade last year but will be this year and I loved that color! I'm coming from an 11 Pro Max so it will be a nice camera upgrade for me.
 
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The Pro really needs to start at 512 storage option.

Edit: I don't understand all the disagreements. I'm just wishing here, its like saying "I hope to win $10 million dollars" and someone disagreeing and saying thats too much for me. You don't have to spend it.

My guess is people are concerned that will make the base price higher and they don't want that to happen - they'd prefer a lower storage entry model and you can always upgrade to 512 if you want - so then everyone's happy.
 
I don't understand all the disagreements. I'm just wishing here, its like saying "I hope to win $10 million dollars" and someone disagreeing and saying thats too much for me. You don't have to spend it.
lol this is incredibly disingenuous even for these forums. you even left the bit above which shows this is absolutely not what you said. You said it NEEDS to start at 512, as if there's some urgency about having half a terabyte of storage. If the above is your attitude, then just buy 512 – you don't have to pay attention to the existence of the 256 model.
 
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does anyone of the rendering staff suffer from color blindness? Have you ever seen bronze as a color before? That would explain the render option on that picture. Please modify….in case you need a reference:

Yeah.. The "bronze" color they're attempting to demonstrate looks like it came from the color palette of a 1969 Buick, kind of a greenish-gold color.. Barf-a-rama
 
Exactly. The 12 mini was $100 cheaper than the regular 12, and no one complained about the regular 12's price.

So why would a device $100 less with the exact same hardware and capabilities as another device with an accepted price be too expensive? It logically makes no sense.

If you're expecting something in the realm of $399-649, there is a budget iPhone option that covers that too. The 12 mini isn't supposed to be the "cheap phone," that's what the SE is. The 12 mini was supposed to be the regular 12 with all of its latest and greatest hardware, just in a more reasonably-sized package.

That budget phone has worse specs than the 12, and remember, the 6S and SE (1st gen.) were essentially identical, other than design.

Is the takeaway here that Apple underpriced the SE (1st gen) then?
 
When I bought the iPhone 6s in 2015 the 16GB was $899 and the 64GB was $1029 (Canadian dollars)
The iPhone 12 Mini 64GB is $979 and the 128GB is $1049 CAD.

And the SE (1st gen), which was essentially the same specs wise as the 6S, but in a smaller body, was significantly cheaper.
 
My next phone will have to be a minimum 128 GB, 64 GB on my Pixel 3a is getting a little tight.
 


The iPhone 13 lineup will offer new Pink, Black, and Bronze colors and storage options will remain the same as the iPhone 12, other than there being no 256GB storage option for the 5.4-inch and 6.1-inch standard models, according to the Ukrainian e-commerce website "KTC," spotted by 91mobiles, that purports to have revealed the upcoming devices' configuration options.


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MacRumors' render of Black, Bronze, and Pink iPhone 13 models.

The iPhone 13 mini and iPhone 13 will apparently continue to be available in six color options: Black, Blue, Purple, Pink, White, and PRODUCT(RED). This means that Pink would replace Green from the iPhone 12 lineup.

On the other hand, the iPhone 13 Pro and iPhone 13 Pro Max will purportedly continue to be available in four color options: Black, Silver, Gold, and Bronze. This means that Black would replace Graphite from the iPhone 12 Pro lineup, while Bronze would replace Pacific Blue.

Matte black and bronze iPhone 13 Pro color options were rumored earlier this year, and there were also very sketchy reports of a pink iPhone 13 model, so it is possible that this is the origin of these listed color options.

Apple also reportedly intends to offer the following storage options for each model size in the iPhone 13 lineup:

  • iPhone 13 mini: 64GB and 128GB
  • iPhone 13: 64GB and 128GB
  • iPhone 13 Pro: 128GB, 256GB, 512GB
  • iPhone 13 Pro Max: 128GB, 256GB, and 512GB

This would mean that the iPhone 13 lineup storage configurations would be largely the same as the iPhone 12 lineup, but with no 256GB option for the 5.4-inch "mini" model and the standard 6.1-inch model, which seems like a very peculiar move that would reduce the variety of options and top amount of storage for customers of both entry-level iPhone 13 models.

Other Ukrainian e-commerce sites appear to be listing slightly different storage options for each model, with some showing no 64GB option for the iPhone 13 mini but a new 512GB option instead, and others showing options all the way up to 1TB. As a result, KTC's information should be taken with a pinch of salt. It is also worth noting that KTC shows no sign of the rumored 1TB storage option for the iPhone 13 Pro models.

Article Link: iPhone 13 Said to Offer Fewer Storage Options and New Pink Color, iPhone 13 Pro Adds Black and Bronze Colors
Wtf no 256GB option? I’m at 146GB used on my current mini. What unusable ********!
 
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I would have loved to see a *true* copper color. One that would patina over time and turn green.
 
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It's okay guys, it's not gonna hurt you to have larger storage tiers available, which you're under no obligation whatsoever to buy. Apple's a big company, they can take care of themselves. No need to reassure them against the tyranny of offering too many options.
 
I mean, these are mostly anecdotes, aren't they? I've used 114GB for my favorite hi-res songs, and another 5GB for Messages alone. Even with iCloud Photos on, I have >50% of storage used across the above and installed apps. Always nice to have extra space, IMO. 512GB may be overkill for most, but it's a nice option to have.

I have 42Gb used out of 64Gb. And 16 Gb of it are podcasts and music which I could easily reduce if needed. My messages takes up 215Mb.
 
That budget phone has worse specs than the 12, and remember, the 6S and SE (1st gen.) were essentially identical, other than design.

Is the takeaway here that Apple underpriced the SE (1st gen) then?

And the SE (1st gen), which was essentially the same specs wise as the 6S, but in a smaller body, was significantly cheaper.
I think Apple did take lower margins on the SE, definitely. The SE also came out a year and a half after the 6. The 6s was largely built on the 6 as far as display, chassis, and other tech goes. Swap in an A9, 3D Touch-capable LCD panel, and an updated Touch ID sensor; and you've got a 6s. Take out the 3D Touch hardware and put it in a box that says "iPhone SE," and you've got an iPhone SE.

The economies of scale from the millions of 6 and 6s hardware units, and R&D already paid off helped bring the cost of the SE down to $399. There has also been almost 14% inflation of the USD since 2016, so it's actually equivalent to about $450 if it were sold today. But honestly, I'd say it's less inflation and more about rebadging an existing device that had long since had its R&D paid off that made the SE possible at that price, both then and now.

Again, the SE is built to take advantage of several cost-savings techniques Apple can leverage out of its supply chain to keep costs down while delivering a decent quality, albeit dated product. It's not "obsolete" per se, but it isn't "the latest and greatest." On the other hand, the 12 mini launched as a peer to the 12 and was equipped with all of the same newest cameras, sensors, processor, cellular radio, and display technology as the 12.

I think the takeaway is that the 12 mini was competitive with its peers on price: $100 less expensive than another device with identical hardware and at least $300 cheaper than the closest "Pro" models that went on sale at the same time as it did.
 
And the SE (1st gen), which was essentially the same specs wise as the 6S, but in a smaller body, was significantly cheaper.
The SE wasn’t available until 2016 but we got one as soon as it was released.
 
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