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They only got rid of it in the US so that means they likely didn't design around that saved space as it means different parts for the international models.

Getting rid of the SIM slot only helps once they do it globally or have two different internal designs. I suspect they won't ever really do the second.
Agreed. We’ll know for sure after teardowns but I wouldn’t be at all surprised if we find that the PCB is identical on the US non-US iPhones but for the US phones the SIM card holder is not mounted on the PCB and it is just blank space. I expect next year, assuming that is when the physical SIM card slot goes away globally, is when Apple will do a PCB shrink to give more space for the battery.
 
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I once had a Plus but that was with 6S Plus.

That was 5.5 inches. This is 6.7...idk how I'd be able to carry a Pro Max around. But the battery life is much bigger than reg. Pro :(
Well that was 5.5 before adding up those chunky top and bottom bezels... 14 Plus is only 2.6mm taller
 
Do you remember XR phone? That year this phone was the one with bigger battery life, due to inferior screen technology compared with the top of the line XS Max.
In this case 14 Plus is going to have enormous battery life compared with all past models and in normal life, I expect much more difference with 14PM that showed by apple in specs. Always-on display, 2000 nits outdoors, promotion, dynamic island animation (remember parallax effect in battery life…). I’m afraid that 4nm A16 supposed more efficiency is not going to compensate these features consumption. Really looking forward to Wednesday reviews at 9am EST…
 
Perfect, 14 Pro has a larger battery than the 13 Pro and the display can go to even slower refreshes for better battery savings and A16 is more efficient than A15...coming from a 12 Pro Max I'm hoping the 14 Pro will be comparable or even better in battery life.
 
Perfect, 14 Pro has a larger battery than the 13 Pro and the display can go to even slower refreshes for better battery savings and A16 is more efficient than A15...coming from a 12 Pro Max I'm hoping the 14 Pro will be comparable or even better in battery life.
Max battery never is going to be comparable to non MaX iphone (maybe in some generations). Don’t forget to add always on display, promotion, 2000nits screen and dynamic island animation…
 
It’s interesting how the non Pro models have larger batteries.
It's not interesting with the 14 lineup because the differences are tiny. The Pro models likely have different space inside with different cameras and chips, and they have more efficient displays that can go down to the 1hz refresh rate.
But with the 13 vs 13 Pro battery sizes it was very annoying having the 13 Pro for the better camera but shorter battery life than the 13. Apple's justification for the smaller battery in the Pro was that the variable fresh rate display saves battery life, but I wanted longer standby battery life with the display off so the 13 Pro was noticeably shorter lasting in battery life than the 13.
 
I just checked Apple's website...

iPhone 14 Pro Max battery specs:

Video playback:
Up to 29 hours

Video playback (streamed):
Up to 25 hours

Audio playback:
Up to 95 hours



iPhone 14 Plus battery specs:

Video playback:
Up to 26 hours

Video playback (streamed):
Up to 20 hours

Audio playback:
Up to 100 hours

The only battery spec the iPhone 14 Plus has better than the iPhone 14 Pro Max is audio playback. It lacks on Video playback so I wouldn't call it "the longest battery life ever of any iPhone".
You lack critical thinking. Do you use your iPhone from 100% to 0% with the screen on playing video? No? Then it's not an accurate representation of battery life. The iPhone 13 Pro has a smaller battery than the 13 but they rate it for longer video playback. It certainly offers me shorter battery life than a 13 because I don't use my phone often.
 
Max battery never is going to be comparable to non MaX iphone (maybe in some generations). Don’t forget to add always on display, promotion, 2000nits screen and dynamic island animation…
The 12 Pro Max however suffers from the inefficient first gen 5G modem. And I believe it has a smaller battery than the 11 Pro Max and the 13 Pro Max. So overall lower battery life on the 12 Pro models.

AOD has the lowest screen refresh rate, can be disabled, and turns off automatically when the phone is turned over or in a pocket. ProMotion enables lower refresh rates which can save battery, and I believe can also be set to not go above 60. 2000 nits is only for direct sunlight. No clue how much more battery dynamic island animations will take since they'll only show when you already have the screen on anyway, and since they're mostly black pixels it will actually be turning more pixels off for the duration of the animation. In regular everyday usage I would hope that the efficiency gains on the 14 Pro would get me close to similar battery life for the 14 Pro with the 3,200 mAh battery versus the 12 Pro Max with a 3,687 mAh battery.
 
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Do you plan to upgrade from your xs?
My XS became my secondary phone long ago. Right now I'm on the 12 Pro. Do I want the new 14 Pro? Sure. But two things stop me:
  1. eSIM only and I have a SIM from a carrier that doesn't support eSIM do to travel arrangements.
  2. Price wise too expensive, the next upgrade is the 512GB model due to me reaching 70% on my 256GB model.
 
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Some1 needs to have an honest conversation with the Apple product dev team... Sure they gonna make more money than ever... Because they clearly didn't spend any on these updates! but man I feel cheated... I know we've all googled a comparison between the new and old, because it's hard to believe this is it... the biggest difference I can find is 0.06g? really? oh and emergency satellite communications? wait, what, really, REALLY? Did they have a bunch of new innovations lined up and then decided none of them were ready so they reverted to the previous model?
 
4.3k mAh battery in the flagship, huh? My Google Pixel 6 Pro has a 5.0k mAh battery :V

Sure, you can argue that Android / Qualcomm / whatever aren't as battery-efficient, but c'mon, we're arguing about raw battery capacity here. Kind of a useless statistic.
 
4.3k mAh battery in the flagship, huh? My Google Pixel 6 Pro has a 5.0k mAh battery :V

Sure, you can argue that Android / Qualcomm / whatever aren't as battery-efficient, but c'mon, we're arguing about raw battery capacity here. Kind of a useless statistic.

Where you quoting someone or are you arguing with yourself?
 
"The software update is compatible with the iPhone 8 and newer and has a long list of new features and changes."

So the rest of us will be frozen on ios 15??
 
You got an extra hour of battery life in the 14PM, though. That phone was already ten steps ahead of others in the battery life department.
14MP not much, it might have been ahead of iPhones in terms of battery but never ever for other phones. A 4000mah battery isnt good, my phone that’s 900 dollars cheaper has 6000mah. iPhone batteries were always bad, with IOS it’s even worse. The fact that they got rid of so many stuff for no reason and still have such a lame battery life is a pure joke.
 
My XS became my secondary phone long ago. Right now I'm on the 12 Pro. Do I want the new 14 Pro? Sure. But two things stop me:
  1. eSIM only and I have a SIM from a carrier that doesn't support eSIM do to travel arrangements.
  2. Price wise too expensive, the next upgrade is the 512GB model due to me reaching 70% on my 256GB model.
The E sim only is US only….

BUt yes for travel a sim tray is definitly a plus. (So you can buy a local data sim card). But that problem would not exist if every country made the move over to Esim
 
14MP not much, it might have been ahead of iPhones in terms of battery but never ever for other phones. A 4000mah battery isnt good, my phone that’s 900 dollars cheaper has 6000mah. iPhone batteries were always bad, with IOS it’s even worse. The fact that they got rid of so many stuff for no reason and still have such a lame battery life is a pure joke.
It's always intrigued me why top-of-the-range iPhone batteries do tend to be smaller than their equivalents in Samsung high-end Galaxies etc. Do other manufacturers manage to create more free volume inside their cases compared to Apple so there is more space for a bigger battery and if so then how? Is an iPhone PCB bigger due perhaps to the A-series SoCs being bigger than Snapdragon etc? Do other manufacturers use batteries that have a higher energy density per unit volume compared to Apple batteries? Does Apple simply not fill all available internal volume and goes with smaller batteries because that is all it needs to be highly competitive on battery life?

I suppose my musings above come down to the basic question of whether, if it wanted to, Apple could somehow fit in a >5,000mah battery into say the iPhone 14 Pro Max without increasing the case size. If yes then that is something I would love to see. The 14 Pro Max is already a beast when it comes to battery life, at least according to various reviews, so just imagine how much clear water it would put between it and its major competitors if it had say a 5,500mah battery on top of all the power efficiencies.

My guess is that it all comes down to profit margins. Lower capacity batteries are cheaper (I assume) so Apple only does enough to stay reasonably comfortably ahead of the competition rather than trying to leave the competition in the dust. In my view that's a shame.
 
It's always intrigued me why top-of-the-range iPhone batteries do tend to be smaller than their equivalents in Samsung high-end Galaxies etc. Do other manufacturers manage to create more free volume inside their cases compared to Apple so there is more space for a bigger battery and if so then how? Is an iPhone PCB bigger due perhaps to the A-series SoCs being bigger than Snapdragon etc? Do other manufacturers use batteries that have a higher energy density per unit volume compared to Apple batteries? Does Apple simply not fill all available internal volume and goes with smaller batteries because that is all it needs to be highly competitive on battery life?

I suppose my musings above come down to the basic question of whether, if it wanted to, Apple could somehow fit in a >5,000mah battery into say the iPhone 14 Pro Max without increasing the case size. If yes then that is something I would love to see. The 14 Pro Max is already a beast when it comes to battery life, at least according to various reviews, so just imagine how much clear water it would put between it and its major competitors if it had say a 5,500mah battery on top of all the power efficiencies.

My guess is that it all comes down to profit margins. Lower capacity batteries are cheaper (I assume) so Apple only does enough to stay reasonably comfortably ahead of the competition rather than trying to leave the competition in the dust. In my view that's a shame.
It’s because iPhones are much more power efficient, and there is no point for them to spend more money on larger batteries.

For the minority who really need more battery life, Apple is happy to sell you a MagSafe battery.
 
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The E sim only is US only….

BUt yes for travel a sim tray is definitly a plus. (So you can buy a local data sim card). But that problem would not exist if every country made the move over to Esim
Every carrier moving to eSIM isn't going to happen anytime in the timeframe described. Why? Local government regulations. There is a reason why in China no local iPhone has an eSIM, only SIM trays.

Also, Apple should just offer the SIM tray iPhone for people who come to the US to buy an iPhone.
 
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