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"pinky bridge" lol Interesting. I don't have a 13 Pro, so I haven't held it very often. My 12 Pro will start to give me discomfort if I'm holding it too long. My sister has a 13 Pro and she is about 5'2" and uses it with no case or grip. I'm about 5'9" with average sized hands. I at least have a pop socket on mine, but she seems to have no issues with it. She wanted the size of the mini, but got the Pro because of the feature set.
Actually the term may be “pinky ledge”. I think I remembered it wrong. I got the 13 Pro for the same reason your sister did, I liked my 12 mini a lot, but wanted the feature set. The joke was on me because the screen tech on the 13 Pro triggered a migraine problem that rendered me unable to use it, or go back to my 12 mini, so now I’m on an SE3 and an iPhone 11. No OLED for me this year. Sometimes I can use OLED so I’m going to give it another go with a 14 Pro or Pro Max. I haven’t decided yet.

I have to use a case. To me these phones are too slippery without one. Impressive that your sister doesn’t use one.
 
Actually the term may be “pinky ledge”. I think I remembered it wrong. I got the 13 Pro for the same reason your sister did, I liked my 12 mini a lot, but wanted the feature set. The joke was on me because the screen tech on the 13 Pro triggered a migraine problem that rendered me unable to use it, or go back to my 12 mini, so now I’m on an SE3 and an iPhone 11. No OLED for me this year. Sometimes I can use OLED so I’m going to give it another go with a 14 Pro or Pro Max. I haven’t decided yet.

I have to use a case. To me these phones are too slippery without one. Impressive that your sister doesn’t use one.
I hadn't heard the term either way, but I knew exactly what you were talking about lol That's unfortunate about the OLED situation. The screens are really better than the LCDs, minus the weird green tint issue that seems to be on all of them.

We both have AppleCare+, so we don't care to have cases on our phones. They are already heavy and bulky as is. I have one of the MagSafe Popsockets that I can easily take off at any time. I always get AppleCare+ on my devices. Gives me peace of mind if I happen to be an idiot one day, but I mostly keep a death grip on my phone when it is out of my pocket. I pay monthly for my sister's AppleCare (she's 16 and on my plan), but if something happens to her phone, she has a job and can pay for it lol
 
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Yeah, but he died at a time when people were still fascinated by the miniaturization of tech. The trend for years was to see how many features could be packed into the smallest chassis possible. That obsession didn’t take ergonomics and battery life into account. I think he would have eventually come around to these larger devices once he saw how people interact with their tech and what their actual needs are vs. an abstract ideal. He loved the art form, but he was also into usefulness and practicality.

And if he were still alive, he’d be of an age his vision and dexterity would be starting to degrade a bit. He’d appreciate a larger screen.
I agree, this was guy who after all flatly refused to initially release a iTunes version for Windows. But eventually saw the advantages. The clearest example was when Bertrand Serlet showed Marklar running on a Sony notebooks. Jobs was obviously open to the idea of releasing a x86 compatible version of OS X. It just took tangible reasons that were clear and convincing to get him over the fence.
 
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I hadn't heard the term either way, but I knew exactly what you were talking about lol That's unfortunate about the OLED situation. The screens are really better than the LCDs, minus the weird green tint issue that seems to be on all of them.

We both have AppleCare+, so we don't care to have cases on our phones. They are already heavy and bulky as is. I have one of the MagSafe Popsockets that I can easily take off at any time. I always get AppleCare+ on my devices. Gives me peace of mind if I happen to be an idiot one day, but I mostly keep a death grip on my phone when it is out of my pocket. I pay monthly for my sister's AppleCare (she's 16 and on my plan), but if something happens to her phone, she has a job and can pay for it lol
Oh wow is the green tint issue on your iPhone and your sister’s phone, too? It was really bad on my 12 Pro Max and one of my 12 minis. I got a new 12 mini that was absolutely free of it. My 13 Pro is ok, too. I guess the green screen lottery is alive and well.

How do you like the MagSafe pop socket? Does it stick well?
 
Oh wow is the green tint issue on your iPhone and your sister’s phone, too? It was really bad on my 12 Pro Max and one of my 12 minis. I got a new 12 mini that was absolutely free of it. My 13 Pro is ok, too. I guess the green screen lottery is alive and well.

How do you like the MagSafe pop socket? Does it stick well?
I'm actually not 100% sure on the 13 Pro. My 12 Pro definitely has it and so did my 11 Pro. I don't remember the X having that issue, and it was the first iPhone with an OLED.

The magnets are fairly strong, even though the packaging recommends not using it without a MagSafe case. Maybe the extra magnets in the case make it a little stronger? I don't have one of those cases to compare. I did a few tests early on to see the threshold. It can slip off, but it's only happened a couple of times when putting it back in my pocket when I was trying to quickly pocket it and the socket itself got caught and when I was using it one-handed and reached too far into the top left corner without adjusting my grip correctly. Again, I have AppleCare+ so I'm not particularly concerned it ever does come off. I don't think I've actually dropped my phone since I've started using the pop sockets.
 
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Jobs was obviously open to the idea of releasing a x86 compatible version of OS X. It just took tangible reasons that were clear and convincing to get him over the fence.
Jobs wasn't just open to the idea; he was planning for it all along. He engineered NeXTSTEP to be multiplatform capable, years before it was rebranded and reengineered to become what we now know as Mac OS X. He even said as much, when he introduced it... that presentation included perhaps several of his very best moments on stage, in my opinion.

Of course, we probably won't ever know what happened behind those closed doors... but personally, I imagine that he held that stick out in front of IBM's nose every time he went in to negotiate with them over PowerPC licensing and revenue sharing. And yeah, as you alluded in your reference to "tangible reasons": When IBM failed utterly to come up with a version of the G5 that could be even remotely laptop friendly, that game came to its inevitable conclusion.
 
Samsung is doing the groundwork right now, but obviously that form factor hasn't taken off yet. It's still somewhat of a novelty.
Novelty? It isn’t a novelty here in Korea. The Fold 4 just sold a huge number of pre-orders (it was in the hundreds of thousands — with Fold and Flip 4 pre-orders at just short of 1 million) in this country, alone. Samsung expects half of its sales to be foldables by 2025. I see the Fold 2 and 3 every day, here. The Folds are absolutely stunning, and the crease is all but gone in the 4 that I played with.

People have to realize that in many tech respects, the USA is behind in what you see in use for Android phones.
 
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I think the Max will sell the most. It’s big and cheap and that’s what people like.
That will be the one I get if I get one. I only get PM for the screen size. But of course they are crippling the supply so it backorders hard and impatient people will switch to PM.
 
And the same goes for any high end phone. If the manufacture offers 0% interest with 24 monthly payments, you take it. That’s free money. Google does the same with their phones and I always go with the best phones just because of the payments.
Exactly. Looking back at historical pricing, prices starting rising faster once AT&T Next started
 
i will miss it. sad that it’s getting killed off
I have a 13 Mini. Can't say that I'll be sad to see it go. The screen really isn't great and the battery life is horrible.

I may replace it with a 14 Pro, but no way I'd get a Pro Max (or a Max) I had an 11 Pro Max before my mini and it was just too darn big and heavy.
 
Has there been any rumors that the pro and pro max will have different features in terms of cameras or anything? I haven't been following as closely as I normally do.
so far I've seen the pro and pro Max will be the same aside from having a bigger battery and bigger screen
will have to wait until the event to find out
 
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