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At what point did you know you had used up all your ram?



The iPhone has had multitasking at the OS level at least as long as they have had copy and paste.

If the frontmost app needs more memory, background apps will be reaped and will restart when they get focus.

The alternative is the frontmost app fails until you go and manually kill background apps (although often, that failure is just the app crashing - apps typically deal poorly with memory allocation failing).

That is going to be true whether the apps are fullscreen or in windows.
Please. That’s not multitasking. Floating window or split screen is true multitasking, neither of which iOS has or plans to offer.
 
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Someone needs to do a study on how much data is wasted by safari reloading pages throughout the day and the power wasted to do that.

Whenever Apple allows third party browsers without web kit they will eliminate this problem and be king of the hill and people will leave safari in droves.
Very true. Safari is such trash.
 
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I guess it depends on the usage, but even by 7 years ago in 2015 I was complaining about memory related issues with my iPhone 5S. Moving to the 3 GB iPhone 7 Plus in 2016 was a revelation.

As for storage, now that we're all on iCloud, even 128 GB is more than we need.
Well, for YouTube, e-mail and texting iPhone 5s is still fine on iOS 12. Of course more is better and I still love my iPhone 12 mini.
 
At what point did you know you had used up all your ram?
You can tell when the Safari tabs refresh or there are lags when switching apps. This happens on all iPhones, but it happens much more often with devices with less RAM.

I found it really, really annoying even in 2015 with the iPhone 5S (1 GB). It was much improved with the iPhone 7 Plus (3 GB) in 2016, but over time it became more frequent again. On the 6 GB iPhone 12 Pro Max, it's now infrequent again, but it still occurs occasionally.


Someone needs to do a study on how much data is wasted by safari reloading pages throughout the day and the power wasted to do that.

Whenever Apple allows third party browsers without web kit they will eliminate this problem and be king of the hill and people will leave safari in droves.
That's not how it works. This is inherent to iOS design. Even if third party browsers didn't have to use WebKit, they would still have the same limitation, due to the way iOS works. You may not be aware, but other apps already will also refresh if they've been left in the background for a while and iOS deems it necessary to recapture that RAM.

It should be noted though that as the memory amounts have been increasing in iPhones, the amount of memory that individual apps can retain has also been increasing.
 
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I guess alongside the 6GB Ram, the base iPhone 14 will also get the 5 core gpu like the 13 Pro, so that would be an upgrade for the base iPhone 12/13 users.

Apple will be able to market it like "40% Faster Multitasking, 15% Faster graphics than the iPhone 13" (I made up the numbers).
 
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With what kind of apps is that amount of RAM necessary?

Allows the OS to be less gimped. Maybe that will allow iOS to do things like in-app updates in the background instead of being forced to keep it in the foreground.
 
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Can't see them ditching the Mini in the year where SE 2020 purchasers will start looking for an upgrade
 
Apple still does - best in the industry bar none at optimized os.

Gimped or minimalism is the more appropriate term. Optimized is only if you have the same OS features but utilizes less resources. In the case of iOS, it's gimped or minimalism since it's mostly single-tasking (no split-screen multitasking), virtually no background multitasking since in-app update have to be kept in the foreground otherwise it stops, no desktop mode when keyboard and external display are connected, still can't place home screen icons anywhere for reachability because that consumes additional memory, etc.
 
So if that leak is true, the only difference between the iPhone 14/Max and the 13 is the extra 2GB of RAM? Same processor, same memory type (no LPDDR5) almost the same design, same camera. Seems like the worst model you could get, you either go for a Pro or hold till iPhone 15 which will carry USB C already
 
Please. That’s not multitasking. Floating window or split screen is true multitasking, neither of which iOS has or plans to offer.
guess will see on Monday if that's the plan. if we see no multitasking improvements we may never see it on the iPhone and will be held for iPad and Mac.
 
Gimped or minimalism is the more appropriate term. Optimized is only if you have the same OS features but utilizes less resources. In the case of iOS, it's gimped or minimalism since it's mostly single-tasking (no split-screen multitasking), virtually no background multitasking since in-app update have to be kept in the foreground otherwise it stops, no desktop mode when keyboard and external display are connected, still can't place home screen icons anywhere for reachability because that consumes additional memory, etc.

Not gimped.

Just not so busy or many talked about features that very many don’t even use.

Desktop mode = Dex is Samsung only right?! That’s not fully support across all AndroidOS since 10 am I right here? If so not worth mentioning since were talking about an os optimization not features and not features by a specific manufacturer. Nice try though.

Split screen multi-tasking - again a feature not an OS optimization that doesn’t require more RAM which this does since it’s introduction in Android. Again nice try.

Background multitasking - you’ll need to elaborate more specifically as I’m presuming processes running in background which iOS does, beyond push notifications, alerts, and voip.
^ curious if this is the reason why at here is so much scattered android OS support across just 1 ye old devices and owners across the globe. This very last part I’m presuming or assuming doesn’t highlight AndroidOS’ efficiency at all. If I’m right in what you meant, you’re also not highlighting efficiency of AndroidOS either.

In app updates does NOT have to be done in foreground in iOS where did you get that idea when iOS supports delta updates. ??
 
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What's the Difference Between 4X and 5, Again? Also, the Plus "TSMC" Chipset Listed in the Normal 14's look like A14X.
Wonder If the Normal 14's are going to be supported as long as the Pros.
Quite possibly not, but you have to hang on to an iPhone for a *long* time before it loses support.
 
That’s actually a more beneficial upgrade for a lot of users than the DRAM. I had no idea that Apple let you record ProRes on your iPhone that would have to be. Transferred to a Mac or iPad through the equivalent of a swizzle stick interface. What idiot in hardwares dev thought that was a good idea for the target consumer?!? 2022 and we’re still using USB 2.0 on iOS devices?
Just going to USB 3.0 will allow the transfer rate from 480 megabits/second to 5 gigabits/second, a ten times increase in data transfer speed. That will make a huge difference transferring ProRAW still image and ProRes video files off the phone.
 
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So not a lot of reasons to upgrade from my 13 Pro Max. Good, because I have a bunch more months of bill credits until my phone is paid off! :)

I don't need faster RAM or more RAM. My phone is freaking fast already.
Everyone is different. I work off my phone a lot, and more RAM is a definite need.
 
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Everyone is different. I work off my phone a lot, and more RAM is a definite need.
Of course it should have more RAM. For the price Apple charges the Ram should be 8/12GB. Pro models should have 12GB, not to mention a pro variant of IOS that allows professionals to actually get work done on their phones, just as android allows huge amounts of flexibility and utility to get my work done quickly and efficiently (utilizing true automation tools)
 
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Just going to USB 3.0 will allow the transfer rate from 480 megabits/second to 5 gigabits/second, a ten times increase in data transfer speed. That will make a huge difference transferring ProRAW still image and ProRes video files off the phone.
It would also make it useful should Apple want to allow for external recording to SSDs. Typically, a SATA SSD is adequate enough to capture 4K/60 to an external recorder a là an Atomos. Of course, this ends up being typical Apple where they half ass these solutions to the end user by showing gee whiz cool stuff that they stop supporting once anything beyond the device is required. Again, I digress. Sell solutions, Apple…
 


All four iPhone 14 models launching later this year will be equipped with 6GB of RAM, according to Taiwanese research firm TrendForce.

iPhone-14-Lineup-Feature-Purple.jpg

TrendForce said the iPhone 14 Pro models will be upgraded to a faster and more power efficient type of RAM known as LPDDR5, while the standard iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Max models are expected to stick with LPDDR4X.

If the report proves to be accurate, the iPhone 14 lineup would compare as follows:
  • iPhone 13 mini: 4GB (LPDDR4X)
  • iPhone 13: 4GB (LPDDR4X)
  • iPhone 13 Pro: 6GB (LPDDR4X)
  • iPhone 13 Pro Max: 6GB (LPDDR4X)
  • iPhone 14: 6GB (LPDDR4X)
  • iPhone 14 Max: 6GB (LPDDR4X)
  • iPhone 14 Pro: 6GB (LPDDR5)
  • iPhone 14 Pro Max: 6GB (LPDDR5)
The report lines up with information shared by Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who also claimed that all four iPhone 14 models would be equipped with 6GB of RAM and that iPhone 14 Pro models would be upgraded to LPDDR5.

TrendForce also suggests that iPhone 14 Pro models may start with 256GB of storage, compared to 128GB for iPhone 13 Pro models, but the chart says the storage capacities are "TBD," so this information appears to be less certain.

iphone-14-chart-trendforce.jpg

As previously rumored, two features expected to be exclusive to iPhone 14 Pro models are an upgraded 48-megapixel rear camera lens and an A16 chip. The standard iPhone 14 models are expected to stick with an A15 chip.

As widely rumored as well, no iPhone 14 mini is expected this year. Instead, Apple is planning to launch 6.1-inch iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Pro models and 6.7-inch iPhone 14 Max and iPhone 14 Pro Max models. The devices will likely be announced at Apple's usual September event, barring any significant supply chain disruptions.

Article Link: iPhone 14 Lineup Expected to Start With Increased 6GB of RAM


All four iPhone 14 models launching later this year will be equipped with 6GB of RAM, according to Taiwanese research firm TrendForce.

iPhone-14-Lineup-Feature-Purple.jpg

TrendForce said the iPhone 14 Pro models will be upgraded to a faster and more power efficient type of RAM known as LPDDR5, while the standard iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Max models are expected to stick with LPDDR4X.

If the report proves to be accurate, the iPhone 14 lineup would compare as follows:
  • iPhone 13 mini: 4GB (LPDDR4X)
  • iPhone 13: 4GB (LPDDR4X)
  • iPhone 13 Pro: 6GB (LPDDR4X)
  • iPhone 13 Pro Max: 6GB (LPDDR4X)
  • iPhone 14: 6GB (LPDDR4X)
  • iPhone 14 Max: 6GB (LPDDR4X)
  • iPhone 14 Pro: 6GB (LPDDR5)
  • iPhone 14 Pro Max: 6GB (LPDDR5)
The report lines up with information shared by Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo, who also claimed that all four iPhone 14 models would be equipped with 6GB of RAM and that iPhone 14 Pro models would be upgraded to LPDDR5.

TrendForce also suggests that iPhone 14 Pro models may start with 256GB of storage, compared to 128GB for iPhone 13 Pro models, but the chart says the storage capacities are "TBD," so this information appears to be less certain.

iphone-14-chart-trendforce.jpg

As previously rumored, two features expected to be exclusive to iPhone 14 Pro models are an upgraded 48-megapixel rear camera lens and an A16 chip. The standard iPhone 14 models are expected to stick with an A15 chip.

As widely rumored as well, no iPhone 14 mini is expected this year. Instead, Apple is planning to launch 6.1-inch iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Pro models and 6.7-inch iPhone 14 Max and iPhone 14 Pro Max models. The devices will likely be announced at Apple's usual September event, barring any significant supply chain disruptions.

Article Link: iPhone 14 Lineup Expected to Start With Increased 6GB of RAM
My iPhone 12 Pro has 256 GB.... how the heck is anyone excited about a measly "6 GB"?!?!? Are there actually iPhone users that never take photos or videos? Truly confused...
 
I can't believe this fuss is all about limited ram in iPhones and some multitasking window resizing add-on to iPadOS. Is this really all that Apple can come up with?
 
I can't believe this fuss is all about limited ram in iPhones and some multitasking window resizing add-on to iPadOS. Is this really all that Apple can come up with?
Apple can’t even come up with that. I doubt they even offer anything close to the multitasking ability that android 12L offers. Apple could probably fire half its staff and still produce the same stuff. Not sure what they do all day.
 
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