Phones are largely sold on monthly payments. for a few bucks more/month, you can have the latest/greatest. Why WOULD you go for old hardware and new pricing when you can have new/new with very little additional obligation?
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iPhone 14 Plus Sales 'Lower Than Expected' Following Launch Last Week
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I shall be upgrading my iPhone 12 mini I bought 2 years ago to the iPhone 13 mini next year. I'm not buying an iPhone 14, they are too big. I don't want to take the chance of expecting an iPhone 15 mini only for one not to be released then Apple at the same time drop the whole iPhone 13 range.
Great phone, but too close in price to a much fuller featured phone - the 14 Pro Max. $200 separates the two and considering what you're getting for the $200, I'm not surprised. I still see stronger sales for the 14 Plus over the holidays.
I think they’d see more interest if they swapped out the ultra wide lens for a 2x zoom. That zoom is key for attractive portraits since wide lenses distort facial proportions. But I agreed with someone who told me before when I made this same comment that they won’t do this swap because it would make the regular lineup too appealing. They want to sell more Pro phones.
If the 14 Plus had a display I could use - I would own one. Lightweight, big display, large battery.
Pro Max is too heavy with those jumbo lenses. I'd take aluminium over steel. (at this point I'd take any flagship iPhone without eye strain).
Pro Max is too heavy with those jumbo lenses. I'd take aluminium over steel. (at this point I'd take any flagship iPhone without eye strain).
Europe is a huge market. And Apple priced themselves way too high in Euros. Even the 14 is priced way too high. Yes, the exchange rate is partially to blame, but the phones in Euros really do cost a fortune. In Germany the iPhone 14 Pro STARTS at 1299.00 Euros. Compared to the USD 999.00. Of course in the Euro zone prices include taxes, but still...
At today's exchange rate (12.10.2022 or, for the US, 10/12/2022) 1299.00 Euros are 1259.00 USD. (prices are referred to the BASE MODEL, the "cheapest")
This means that, those who have ZERO financial problems and can afford an iPhone Pro will buy it. Those who, in Europe, are more budget minded, find themselves with iPhone 14 (non pro) prices that are REALLY REALLY hard to justify.
Apple priced themselves out of the market for the 14 regular.
iPhone 14 regular: USD 799.00 (plus taxes)
iPhone 14 regular: EURO 999.00 = 968.00 USD (taxes included)
Prices referred to the BASE model.
There, in my mind, is the problem with the current iPhone 14 lineup. And the 14Pro will only really sell to those who can afford it.
At today's exchange rate (12.10.2022 or, for the US, 10/12/2022) 1299.00 Euros are 1259.00 USD. (prices are referred to the BASE MODEL, the "cheapest")
This means that, those who have ZERO financial problems and can afford an iPhone Pro will buy it. Those who, in Europe, are more budget minded, find themselves with iPhone 14 (non pro) prices that are REALLY REALLY hard to justify.
Apple priced themselves out of the market for the 14 regular.
iPhone 14 regular: USD 799.00 (plus taxes)
iPhone 14 regular: EURO 999.00 = 968.00 USD (taxes included)
Prices referred to the BASE model.
There, in my mind, is the problem with the current iPhone 14 lineup. And the 14Pro will only really sell to those who can afford it.
Should have been marketed as the 13S, which is closer to the reality of it.
Inflation, cost of everything is up, way up. Maybe some people are re-thinking niceties.
Another thing we are seeing at work, where we give people iPhones every two years, are some people do not want to upgrade when we offer them a new phone. Their reason is that it is such a pain to do so. ( Transfer everything, reset MFA apps etc). They usually just get a new battery.
Another thing we are seeing at work, where we give people iPhones every two years, are some people do not want to upgrade when we offer them a new phone. Their reason is that it is such a pain to do so. ( Transfer everything, reset MFA apps etc). They usually just get a new battery.
Apple will never do it, but they should just offer an iPhone Pro Mini, iPhone Pro, and iPhone Pro Max. If the Mini battery is too small to support all the Pro features (shouldn't be as big of a deal with the jump to 3nm on A17) then make it 5.6", just slightly bigger to accommodate a slightly larger battery. This would streamline the lineup.
Where are all the mini haters that said the mini failed because people don’t want a small phone? Turns out people just don’t want a non-pro phone regardless of size.
Give us a Pro mini, Apple.
Give us a Pro mini, Apple.
Apple blundered with the non pro models this year.Not enough changes from the 13.
Hopefully we can put to rest the idea that "people just want the biggest phones!" now...
That said, the more important point is that it's long past time for Apple to be thinking really hard about what its plans are in the short, medium and long term to combat the inevitable continuing slow down in iPhone sales. The days of Apple being able to be the world's most profitable company just by selling iPhones is likely coming to a slow but inevitable close as the smart phone market continues to mature, and the gap between yearly updates continues to shrink.
That said, the more important point is that it's long past time for Apple to be thinking really hard about what its plans are in the short, medium and long term to combat the inevitable continuing slow down in iPhone sales. The days of Apple being able to be the world's most profitable company just by selling iPhones is likely coming to a slow but inevitable close as the smart phone market continues to mature, and the gap between yearly updates continues to shrink.
Meanwhile the iPhone mini price keeps going up on Amazon. There's clearly a lot of demand for a smaller sized phone.
It’s very easy for average consumer to see the pretty stainless steel and third camera is worthy of $200.
Exactly right: “I’m already going to spend $900, why not $1099! Treat myself!”
Did they make too many? Is this like the rumors I heard about the Mini: They made too many of them too?
It would seem that the Pro and Pro Max outsells all the other models, so why not have a smaller version of the Pro and Pro Max with all of the features, and let people decide which one they want?
It would seem that the Pro and Pro Max outsells all the other models, so why not have a smaller version of the Pro and Pro Max with all of the features, and let people decide which one they want?
Well when you put it THAT way….
Plus with AirPods or Apple Watch SE sounds pretty nice. 😵
And I know people that always have to have the latest, be on that bleeding edge. Me? I take hand-me-downs. 'Sure, I'll take your 13 pro max'. 🤷🏻♂️ (It was white though 😞)
Oh good. I have a 13 mini I need to sell 😁
I’m going to miss it 😩 if only they gave it stainless steel sides and promotion…. And a third camera while we’re at it.
I’m still trying to see what the benefit of a Pro Mini is considering that the demographic it targets is not even asking for Pro features. I think a return to maybe a 5.8 would be a good common ground for most users who do not want to go into to Pro territory.
Apple is in an incredibly enviable position when "sluggish demand" means they need 80 million units instead of 90 million.
Cupertino finally puts to rest the demand question of Big Smart Phone vs Big Dumb Phone
Guess dropping a dumb grand is less appealing than spending a little more.
Guess dropping a dumb grand is less appealing than spending a little more.