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I need an iPhone with M2 pro max chip in it. Don't ask me why.. What't the point in having fast processors when the software limits it?

I have used a few Samsung flagships. Loved the note9 except;
1) Was lagging after few months of use (had to reset sometimes)
2) Getting an update was like lottery
3) Fingerprint reader sucked
4) Shutter lag (camera was good though)
5) A lot of half-baked functions which even Samsung didn't had any idea about.
6) Never had a proper eco system

But;
1)S-Pen was a joy to use
2)Damn good service; When Samsung changes screen, they also change the battery and back panel
3)Secure folder was really useful
4)Call management was outstanding

My son is still using it. Before I gave him, I sent it to Samsung for changing cracked display. As I used my home insurance, it cost me around €25, but got a new battery and backpanel (€350 ordinary charge).
 
Benchmarks are great but for me it is all about how they perform on a daily with my usage and I have always found on Samsung phones apps crash regularly and the battery life never seems great.

I really appreciate Samsung devices but I never end up staying with them because I find apps seems to be much better optimised on Apple. This is just a personal opinion other people may feel differently.

For reference I have only ever used Samsung's with exynos chips.
 
Benchmarks are great but for me it is all about how they perform on a daily with my usage and I have always found on Samsung phones apps crash regularly and the battery life never seems great.

I really appreciate Samsung devices but I never end up staying with them because I find apps seems to be much better optimised on Apple. This is just a personal opinion other people may feel differently.

For reference I have only ever used Samsung's with exynos chips.

That'll why Bill Gates uses a Samsung phone. Gives him fond memories of windows.
 
“Benchmarks don’t matter”

They matter. It’s all about technology and pushing the boundaries of it. The fact that TikTok opens fast enough on both devices is irrelevant for us who like the tech.
Enjoying the tech is one thing, claiming that ticktok opens the same kinda proves the point. All this proc power is not needed by 99% of users.

My 13PM will work for anything I do for 5 years if not more. My 6s still works fine for most uses.
 
Goodness, that is not a good-looking phone from the back. Is the camera arrangement meant to spell F? Is that F for Fone?
 
While I love and am fascinated by these benchmarks and the continued improvements Apple make to their silicon (the iPhones 13 have better single core performance than an unreleased Samsung flagship?!), my iPhone 12 Pro Max still feels responsive and speedy in day to day use. Modern smartphones never cease to amaze me as someone whose first mobile phone was a Nokia 5110 (you could see the screen refresh in real time).
 
So, what 'productivity' tasks are you doing on your phone where the speed difference between the Snapdragon and the A16 makes a noticeable difference in real world usage? I'm genuinely curious.

There are lots of productivity apps on mobile (video editing and music creation exists on smart phones you know) and we are also talking about tablets considering Samsung and Apple use the same chip families in their larger devices.

****ing hell I feel like I’ve time travelled back to 2008 and have to explain the apps we use in 2023.
 
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Benchmarks are irrelevant, it's all about usability.

Have to agree. In GB scores my 13 ProMax runs rings around my 1+ 10 Pro yet in daily use it is like comparing a luxury sports sedan vs a high performance sports car - smooth and powerful (13PM) vs quick and nimble (10Pro). Both are very useful depending on the user.
 
That's for the CPU benchmark. The Snapdragon 8 Gen2 is indeed catching up.
On the GPU side, it's way faster than what the A16 has to offer. Not a big surprise considering the A16 GPU is a very modest update over the A15 one.

And as other said, mobile SoC CPUs are already fast enough (read: super fast). Cameras are good enough (read: already better than what we coudl have thought possible a few years back). Screens are good enough (read: perfect). Modern flagships are basically near perfect overpriced devices now.

It would be very interesting to see what the big players will find to sell us more of them now (likely not much, and the sales decrease will only continue) (which is a good thing)
Problem is that sales will drop and they won't even consider it's too expensive. They'll charge more which will cause less sales.
 
You think Siri is a HW problem?
Definitely not. She's actually pretty decent since I hooked the HP Minis back up and got the latest OS. She only said working on it once so far, and then did it right after. And she seems to be doing things much faster now. No idea how long until she will deteriorate again.
 
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Now imagine that Apple ran an ad about how the S23 Ultra runs slower in benchmarks than a phone released in 2021? That's exactly how Samsung markets. Really puts Samsung's petty marketing in perspective huh?
Apple needs to retaliate and show a commercial with Samsungs being used by snails, turtles, sloths etc...
 
That's the point. At the moment all the CPUs for a Smartphone are more than powerful enough. There isn't something like Html6 on the horizon and neural networks/machine learning usually runs on GPU cores.

So this benchmark would be more interesting, if it includes power consumption. A smartphone CPU can be considered better, if it uses less energy (as long as it is fast enough).
I think the more important question is if it's going to be fast enough 4 to 5 years from now. People have been saying that iPhone processors are fast enough for a long time, yet they inevitably get bogged down by heavier new OS features. When you can use a phone for a year or two longer than the competition, that effectively brings the price of the phone ownership down by a significant amount.
 
Besides fancy camera tricks they keep on bloating year after year you would be perfectly fine with a four year old soc anyway
 


Samsung's newly announced Galaxy S23 Ultra hasn't quite hit the market yet, but unearthed benchmarks for the device suggest Apple still has the world's fastest mobile processor by a considerable margin.

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According to Geekbench scores for single-core performance discovered by CompareDial, the Galaxy S23 Ultra scored 1480, while its closest rival, the iPhone 14 Pro, achieved 1874. That suggests the iPhone 14 Pro is 21.02% faster than the Galaxy S23 Ultra in single-core tests.

When it came to multi-core performance, the difference was smaller, but still considerable. The S23 Ultra recorded a score of 4584, compared to a score of 5384 for the iPhone 14 Pro, indicating that Apple's flagship device is 14.86% faster in multi-core tests than Samsung's latest premium offering.

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Samsung has traditionally struggled to keep up with Apple's mobile processor technology and the gap has widened in recent years. For example, last year's iPhone 13 beat the Galaxy S22's single- and multi-core performance even more comfortably, regardless of whether the Galaxy S22 was powered by Qualcomm's Snapdragon 8 Gen 1 chip (used in models sold in the US) or Samsung's Exynos 2200 chip (used in models sold in Europe).

The improvement in performance this year is largely down to the fact that Samsung has stopped using its inferior Exynos chips in the European market, with Qualcomm's faster, more power-efficient tech now being used for the Galaxy S23 in all markets.

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In around seven months' time though, Apple will look to extend its lead in performance with an even faster chip for the iPhone 15 series. The iPhone 15 models could be the first to feature an A-series chip built on Apple supplier TSMC's next-generation 3-nanometer node. 3nm chip technology is expected to increase processing performance by 10-15%, while also reducing power consumption by up to 35%.

In the meantime, the Samsung Galaxy S23 series is available to pre-order now, with a general release scheduled for February, 17.

Article Link: iPhone 14 Pro Over 20% Faster Than Samsung Galaxy S23 Ultra in Benchmarks
Now do battery life. My 14 Pro battery life is shockingly poor.
 
I think the more important question is if it's going to be fast enough 4 to 5 years from now. People have been saying that iPhone processors are fast enough for a long time, yet they inevitably get bogged down by heavier new OS features. When you can use a phone for a year or two longer than the competition, that effectively brings the price of the phone ownership down by a significant amount.

Look at the flip side also.
Irrespective of the speed, will technology make it outdated.
Samsung Note 9 is still speedy enough but doesn’t support 5G
Nothing on the iOS side supports wifi 6e
Will the OS on either side support the latest app functionality
etc….

Too many unknowns especially if the user shops flagship only.
 
My old cheap android phone that hasn’t seen any updates since August 1st has way way less problems than my expensive iPhone 14 pro max.

In the real world I don’t think anyone would ever notice the difference in chip speed, but they will notice the lack of ram in the iPhone. Everytime you take a pic, or close out some apps and everything has to reload again is pretty shabby. While Android and Samsung do have their fair share of issues, I imagine this thing will be pretty good, way faster CPU/GPU than my Samsung and up to double the amount of ram. If my 2020 S20fe can keep up with my 14 pro max the S23 Ultra will probably beat it in real world usage.

Hopefully it pushes Apple to improve, be nice if they could poach some of that talent at Google as well because they are murdering Apple in ai and innovation right now. Apple can’t even fix basic bugs that a 14 year old jailbreak dev could fix in 5 minutes, I hope we don’t see another chip fiasco this Fall again.

Remember people, competition is good, I like my new iPhone but it’s a letdown in many ways, especially the camera which is pretty bad. Apple has the money, I just don’t know what they are doing with it. For a smartphone it’s pretty dumb, try using dictation, Siri, then go try that on a Pixel.

I think Apple is spread too thin, I’m still rolling my eyes at things like Apple fitness and stuff like that. Apple should get back to the core products, because what they are doing now isn’t working.
 
majority of you users will ever use your phone power from just light gaming , web browsing or filters from social media apps . no one will know the difference honestly it’s the reason why my Galaxy S8 still feels fast especially when you use it for just watching videos and web browsing
 
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