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There is also a rumor of enhanced lifestyle version/accessory in partnership with Philips:
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It's a small change, but I think it will look pretty nice. I skipped the 13 so I will be upgrading this year. I haven't bought any Apple products in years actually, feels weird.
 
PSA to anyone upgrading from iPhone 13 to this year’s iPhone 14: Don’t buy too many iPhone cases - the new design will not be compatible with the cases. You can save earth resources and the environment by not buying future e-waste.
It’s just the same as it has been since the X, or the 6, technically. The 6s was different than the 6, 8 than 7, Xs than X, 13P than 12P. Nothing new here.
 
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Engineering. Obviously. You see, the camera has a bump because the modules don’t fit inside the actually housing. Having the back and front camera behind each other is impossible to do…
Also Marketing. Obviously. Because Apple always went with iconic camera designs if possible.
It seems you did not understand his post at all. His post was to suggest putting a single row of lenses across the top. That would stop the side to side wobble, and it would look more symmetrical.

It could cause other issues though.
 
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I still prefer the notch. The pill shape is even more "in your face" and looks like a huge dead spot floating on your screen.

Also, slightly OT and I am not a photo expert by any means but can we blame the annoying green dot on many iPhone photos by how the cameras are aligned? (lens flare?) I have never seen that on my cheap Samsung A52 for example with its different camera alignment. That is one thing that ruins many photos taken on my iPhone.
 
Form over function, MEH.... Give me a camera that can actually be used like a camera. The camera on the iPhone 13 Pro Max can take nice photos/videos, but manually focusing is not going to happen. I can set up and take a photo with any of my Sony cameras in a small fraction of the time it takes to use the iPhone 13 Pro Max. And the photos will be at least a thousand times better quality. I would rather have a crap camera on an iPhone and pay much less, rather than a decent one that is incredibly slow to use and costs a fortune. Cameras need usability, and Apple doesn't have a frigging clue about making them usable. They are designed for witless fan club members to take selfies, not for camera enthusiasts to take great photos.
 
It seems you did not understand his post at all. His post was to suggest putting a single row of lenses across the top. That would stop the side to side wobble, and it would look more symmetrical.

It could cause other issues though.
Exactly, a single row of cameras across the top would leave no internal room for the front camera or Face ID sensors.
 
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Exactly, a single row of cameras across the top would leave no internal room for the front camera or Face ID sensors.
It doesn't have to be right at the top of course. Drop it down a few mm, and problem solved.


Form over function, MEH.... Give me a camera that can actually be used like a camera. The camera on the iPhone 13 Pro Max can take nice photos/videos, but manually focusing is not going to happen. I can set up and take a photo with any of my Sony cameras in a small fraction of the time it takes to use the iPhone 13 Pro Max. And the photos will be at least a thousand times better quality. I would rather have a crap camera on an iPhone and pay much less, rather than a decent one that is incredibly slow to use and costs a fortune. Cameras need usability, and Apple doesn't have a frigging clue about making them usable. They are designed for witless fan club members to take selfies, not for camera enthusiasts to take great photos.
You can manually focus iPhones.
 
Form over function, MEH.... Give me a camera that can actually be used like a camera. The camera on the iPhone 13 Pro Max can take nice photos/videos, but manually focusing is not going to happen. I can set up and take a photo with any of my Sony cameras in a small fraction of the time it takes to use the iPhone 13 Pro Max. And the photos will be at least a thousand times better quality. I would rather have a crap camera on an iPhone and pay much less, rather than a decent one that is incredibly slow to use and costs a fortune. Cameras need usability, and Apple doesn't have a frigging clue about making them usable. They are designed for witless fan club members to take selfies, not for camera enthusiasts to take great photos.
You again with your iPhone camera hate. Same old pointless arguments. The cameras are nice (especially) for their size and are plenty fast.
And how come camera enthusiasts can’t be enthusiastic about such a small camera doing this much work?

Edit: just realised you’re talking about the front cameras exclusively this time. Yeah ok, they’re not that useful, I’ll give you that. But how does it take longer to open the camera app and take a selfie than to get your dedicated camera, put it somewhere and adjust it, set a timer, get in front of it, wait, get back and look at the photo to see if it’s ok or not.
Why would you take a selfie with a real camera anyway. Or are you not talking about the front camera? I’m confused what you’re getting at.
 
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It doesn't have to be right at the top of course. Drop it down a few mm, and problem solved.



You can manually focus iPhones.
… that would mean you’d have to spilt some internals into the part below and above the camera. That’s not gonna happen and would be pretty pointless and waste a lot of space. There’s a reason why cameras in smartphones are mostly in the corners of the phones, so they can “be for themselves” without affecting anything else much.
It’s called engineering.
Also, again, marketing. Apple will never make anything that hints at a Nexus.
 
I find it funny that they focus so much on something as trivial and manage to miss a proverbial elephant in the room. If we look at the renders in the article, we can see that those front camera cuts look quite big and appear to go lower on the screen than the current notch. A ridiculous design move, IMHO.
 
I find it funny that they focus so much on something as trivial and manage to miss a proverbial elephant in the room. If we look at the renders in the article, we can see that those front camera cuts look quite big and appear to go lower on the screen than the current notch. A ridiculous design move, IMHO.
The biggest issue for me is lack of Touch ID. That is the one feature I miss the most from my 7 Plus, now that I have a 12 Pro Max.

Ironically, I have Touch ID on my iPad Pro, but prefer Face ID on the iPad.
 
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Engineering. Obviously. You see, the camera has a bump because the modules don’t fit inside the actually housing. Having the back and front camera behind each other is impossible to do…
Also Marketing. Obviously. Because Apple always went with iconic camera designs if possible.
Hrmm... I'm not suggesting they get rid of the bump; I understand why that's there. But I also don't know the dimensions of the modules and can't really speak to how they can and can't be stacked. So, fair enough on the engineering note.

I was going to point out that Google seems to successfully implement a "horizontal camera array across the top" design with their Pixels, but I guess that gets to your second point :p
 
So far the rumored specs and design changes have convinced me to upgrade from my iPhone 12 Pro to the iPhone 14 Pro Max (with 512GB storage). Since I desperately need a new SS Apple Watch and iPad Pro (love ProMotion), this is going to be one expensive fall for me.
 
Form over function, MEH.... Give me a camera that can actually be used like a camera. The camera on the iPhone 13 Pro Max can take nice photos/videos, but manually focusing is not going to happen. I can set up and take a photo with any of my Sony cameras in a small fraction of the time it takes to use the iPhone 13 Pro Max. And the photos will be at least a thousand times better quality. I would rather have a crap camera on an iPhone and pay much less, rather than a decent one that is incredibly slow to use and costs a fortune. Cameras need usability, and Apple doesn't have a frigging clue about making them usable. They are designed for witless fan club members to take selfies, not for camera enthusiasts to take great photos.
Apple allows developers to directly access the camera for features such as manual focus and for alternative interfaces. I find Apple's default camera interface usable for my purposes, but you have the ability to switch it out for whatever app works for you.
 
The round-er corners is good enough for me to upgrade from my 13 Pro Max to the 14 Pro Max....yeah baby.

Any rumours about a titanium option for the Pro Max?
 
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This type of minutia on the back is something 99% of consumers wouldn't notice or care about, except that it would mean they'd have to get a different case.

It'd be nice to get back the battery percentage indicator though. Hopefully the new front pill design can accommodate that.
doubt it, they probably just make the rest of the fonts bigger.
 
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