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Photos should retain original quality when AirDropped, but it's not guaranteed depending on Wifi connection speeds. Better to be safe than sorry and just use iCloud Photos or the lighting connector.
 
From what I saw AirDrop has problems when transfering large/many files, drops connection etc. The trouble is that it cannot resume after if it hits a problem (correct me if I am wrong here). Also it only works with Macs, some of us still use Windows :)

Another solution seems to be to add a network folder in the Files app.
 
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USB-C is just a connector and not the speed standard. Apple a**holes can leave old school 480 Mb/s speed in next iPhone and still call it 'amazing' or 'magic'.
 
Given how smartphones rely on a super-tight integration between software and hardware (more than computers for sure), it would be development hell.

That's exactly the problem it would solve.

We would never have the fairly polished experience we have with iOS and Android (each flavour of it, at that).

Polished experience? Smartphones, especially Android, are much harder to operate than a computer. Simple tasks become so much more difficult because standard software isn't available.
Smartphones are build first and foremost for convenience (isn't the purpose of a smartphone to make our life more convenient, after all?!) and having more customisation is something more akin to computers (or some tablets, at most).

A smartphone is built to provide an ultramobile computing experience, in places and times where setting up and operating another device isn't feasible. Naturally, this comes with drawbacks.
 
That’s false. I get around 25 MB/s on airdrop.

Real life USB 2 is around 8 MB/s.
What kind of USB 2.0 are you using? A cheap USB flash stick? I routinely get about 25-30MB/sec on USB 2.0 interface on a hard drive that gets 150+MB/sec when connected via USB 3.0 which is about what I get on airdrop hence they're about equivalent in speed when the hard drive is connected with a 2.0 cable.
 
Fair enough.

I'm not saying this is an ideal arrangement and I do think the lightning cable, allbeit not an issue for me personally, is the only blemish on an otherwise excellent phone.

Given how the regulations for apple to implement usb-c were proposed this year, it was pretty fair to not expect the jump to usb-c with the current generation; that said I totally expect the 15 series to go full usb-c (hopefully thunderbolt).
An excellent opportunity to entice people into upgrading.

Given also how apple likes to use flashy lines in their marketing, I can imagine them quoting how they said the lightning cable would last 10 years, back in 2012.
I can already see it, it's just perfect.

But this is the thing though, they should’ve gone usb-c years ago not because the regulations forced them to do so. So the argument that there wasn’t enough time to make the transition with iPhone 14 doesn’t hold up for me.
 
Next year we get thunderbolt / usb-c on iphone 15 for just 200 bucks more...
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Wich of course you’re free to use too – no one owns the Sun. :) And NASA took the photo…

I’m also hoping for some better speeds over Lightning and/or going to USB-C. Should have been done years ago (but maybe the Lighting cables can’t handle it?). AirDrop works sell sometimes, but not in all scenarios.
 
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I have been backing up 230 GB of data on an 11PM for an hour now and still only 70% done. This should have been done at least 30 min ago with the 5 Gbps. I still have to restore it on the 14PM afterward. For some reason, the initial wireless transfer between 11PM and 14PM did not copy everything.
 
Locking users into the ecosystem or platform is not making it more valuable. It is a sign they have no confidence they can attract customers with innovation or value. If they want to slap the word Pro on a model they need to do the basic stuff top notch. Not doing the latest WiFi6E or USB C is just arrogant and insulting. I was looking to upgrade my iPhone but what is the point. I should be looking at other Phones.
 
Wait… That’s my avatar! 😄
Wich of course you’re free to use too – no one owns the Sun. :) And NASA took the photo…

I’m also hoping for some better speeds over Lightning and/or going to USB-C. Should have been done years ago (but maybe the Lighting cables can’t handle it?). AirDrop works sell sometimes, but not in all scenarios.
Only apple can sell a pro device with a connection standard form 20 Years ago. And no one actually bothers that. Nearly 20 years ago my ibook had firewire 800 - twice that fast 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Iphone pro is a really good device and should be called a "plus" or "max" like previous generations. Pro means something very special. Audio? nope. Photo? nope. Video? no. The chipset is actually very good for phone calls, internet and messaging. If they would change something to pro with the right chipsets or lenses it would cost alt least twice that much in $, propably even more. And than the younglings of the apple church would cry forever...

But wait - apple watch is much better. LTE and Wireless N in 2022...
 
What kind of USB 2.0 are you using? A cheap USB flash stick? I routinely get about 25-30MB/sec on USB 2.0 interface on a hard drive that gets 150+MB/sec when connected via USB 3.0 which is about what I get on airdrop hence they're about equivalent in speed when the hard drive is connected with a 2.0 cable.
You are not getting 150 MB/s via airdrop!
It uses WiFi, which at best (little to no interference, wide channels, modern iPhones) yields in the ballpark of 500 Mbit/s or 60MB/s on iPhones.

That’s quite good for what it is, but it is not very different from USB 2.0 480Mbit/s nominal which tends to yield just over 40MB/s effectively. (Thunderbolt is almost a hundred times faster for instance.)
 
Glad to hear it, but logically there's no reason for them to not ban it since they have a precedent for telling companies how to handle their i/o standards.



But you would be using it. And it's a much more seamless experience with a Mac if you're wanting to use an iPhone. And how often are you going on vacations where you're taking 100GB worth of pictures and video so that the transfer speed would be a huge deal? Not very often, I'm guessing.



Is the i/o of the iPhone part of its design? Yes. Is the EU trying to control what i/o Apple uses? Yes. Ergo, they are trying to control the product's design. And again I 110% disagree that it should be the EU's business. If you think it is, then you're going to have to be ok with ANY further meddling they engage in, even if it's imposing something you don't find desirable. And not sure what it being a foreign market to Apple has to do with anything, as the regulation would effect European-based companies as well of course.



And I'd have the same objection to all of that - government should not be controlling how manufacturers design their products - I don't care if it's Apple or some relatively unknown company with 50 employees. It's utterly ridiculous. If consumers want devices with USB-C i/o then they will buy them. Simple as that!
I don’t get this anti-consumer fear mongering that Apple apologists always jump to -The USB-C EU regulation only applies to the I/o and not to anything else. And there’s no indication or precedence for this type of regulation leading to several more regulations of a similar magnitude.

The EU is just as pro business as the US. It’s just not completely consumed in neoliberalism to the point of thinking businesses should be allowed to do anything as long as it creates more revenue.

The E.U. just wants away with proprietary b.s. I/Os and ensure that consumers can use cables and chargers and not have to pay for extra to a particular brand that’s set up a whole certification system just to milk consumers and the businesses.

If Apple wants to keep milking its user base for an additional 20 years despite how loyal they have been then it can just pull iPhones off shelves in Europe and keep selling them to their most eager boot lickers.

Either way, consumers and the entire industry of third party smartphone accessory makers will benefit greatly when the regulations are finally implemented.
 
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Locking users into the ecosystem or platform is not making it more valuable. It is a sign they have no confidence they can attract customers with innovation or value. If they want to slap the word Pro on a model they need to do the basic stuff top notch. Not doing the latest WiFi6E or USB C is just arrogant and insulting. I was looking to upgrade my iPhone but what is the point. I should be looking at other Phones.
Only Apple can turn specs that are standard in all other smartphones into something “Pro” and exclusive to $999+ products.
 
Given how the regulations for apple to implement usb-c were proposed this year, it was pretty fair to not expect the jump to usb-c with the current generation; that said I totally expect the 15 series to go full usb-c (hopefully thunderbolt).
An excellent opportunity to entice people into upgrading.

Given also how apple likes to use flashy lines in their marketing, I can imagine them quoting how they said the lightning cable would last 10 years, back in 2012.
I can already see it, it's just perfect.

That isn't really the issue for me, I fully expected this phone to ship with lightning, my issue is that the lightning port should have gone years ago.

It's very telling that Apple will be the only smartphone manufacturer that will have to change their flagship phone to comply with the EU regs. It's the kind of strange penny pinching that has become a bit of a hallmark of the Tim Cook era at Apple.
 
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AirDrop should be using peer to peer WiFi, not your router at all. Make sure the devices are close together and that you have WiFi turned on for both (even if one of them is on a wired network); it doesn't have to be joined to your access point.

Good point, how fast is AirDrop ?
 
Glad to hear it, but logically there's no reason for them to not ban it since they have a precedent for telling companies how to handle their i/o standards.



But you would be using it. And it's a much more seamless experience with a Mac if you're wanting to use an iPhone. And how often are you going on vacations where you're taking 100GB worth of pictures and video so that the transfer speed would be a huge deal? Not very often, I'm guessing.



Is the i/o of the iPhone part of its design? Yes. Is the EU trying to control what i/o Apple uses? Yes. Ergo, they are trying to control the product's design. And again I 110% disagree that it should be the EU's business. If you think it is, then you're going to have to be ok with ANY further meddling they engage in, even if it's imposing something you don't find desirable. And not sure what it being a foreign market to Apple has to do with anything, as the regulation would effect European-based companies as well of course.



And I'd have the same objection to all of that - government should not be controlling how manufacturers design their products - I don't care if it's Apple or some relatively unknown company with 50 employees. It's utterly ridiculous. If consumers want devices with USB-C i/o then they will buy them. Simple as that!


You are spinning this into a debate about something it isn't. It's a total straw man. This isn't about government regulation it's about Apple refusing to adopt the best technologies in it's flagship products.

Your comments about "governments controlling how manufacturers design their products" are a huge exaggeration and if you want to get stuck into Government overreach (it's probably should be in the political forum) you should start here because that is actually a real issue and not the pretend one you seem to be railing against.

It's a shame that Apple has taken so long to adopt the best technologies, they used to be a technology leader, these days they seem more intent on leading the stock market.
 
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15 or 16, I suspect we will probably get a further improvement in the camera quality and that infamous Island. Watch how Macs will now sport the Island.

Oh this topic is about the lightning port and cable…wake me up when it changes. I have a 13 Pro Max with lightning male and Type C male cable for charging…does it even makes sense?
 
I don’t see the issue. By the time you have taken your photo and gotten back to your computer. The photo would have synced via iCloud and already be on your computer. Everyone is complaining about instant transfer. But apple is great at designing things that just work and work in the background. So when you go to use that photo you took this morning it’s already on your computer.
 
You are not getting 150 MB/s via airdrop!
It uses WiFi, which at best (little to no interference, wide channels, modern iPhones) yields in the ballpark of 500 Mbit/s or 60MB/s on iPhones.

That’s quite good for what it is, but it is not very different from USB 2.0 480Mbit/s nominal which tends to yield just over 40MB/s effectively. (Thunderbolt is almost a hundred times faster for instance.)
I was replying to the prior poster who was claiming he gets 25MB/sec on airdrop and only 8MB/sec on USB 2.0.
 
Has anyone tried using Wi-Fi transfer using an AX Wi-Fi 6 Router with a recent iPhone?
 
What kind of USB 2.0 are you using? A cheap USB flash stick? I routinely get about 25-30MB/sec on USB 2.0 interface on a hard drive that gets 150+MB/sec when connected via USB 3.0 which is about what I get on airdrop hence they're about equivalent in speed when the hard drive is connected with a 2.0 cable.

I’m doing random write of a lot of small files here. Like uncompressed source file.

The numbers you quoted are for sequential write of partition aligned data, like zip or pirated big movies.
 


iPhone 14 Pro and iPhone 14 Pro Max models feature an upgraded rear camera system that can shoot 48-megapixel ProRAW photos, which retain more detail in the image file for more editing flexibility. 48-megapixel ProRAW photos are very large files that clock in at around 75MB each, according to Apple, and sometimes even larger.

iPhone-14-Pro-Rear-Camera.jpg

Despite these very large image sizes, we have confirmed that the Lightning connector on the iPhone 14 Pro models remains limited to USB 2.0 speeds of up to 480 Mbps like previous models, meaning that transferring full-resolution 48-megapixel ProRAW photos to a Mac or other device with a Lightning cable will take a long time.

Apple recommends using iCloud Photos to access ProRAW files in full resolution on a Mac or other Apple devices, or to transfer the photos off an iPhone wirelessly by using AirDrop, but the Lightning connector certainly remains a bottleneck.

Back in 2015, the original iPad Pro's Lightning connector supported USB 3.0, which was capable of up to 5 Gbps speeds based on the spec at the time, but Apple has evidently chosen not to move in this direction for the iPhone. Fortunately, rumors suggest that all iPhone 15 models will be equipped with a USB-C port instead of Lightning, which should result in speeds up to 10 Gbps or even up to 40 Gbps with Thunderbolt 3 support.

Article Link: iPhone 14 Pro's Lightning Connector Still Limited to USB 2.0 Speeds Despite Large 48MP ProRAW Photos
This is a bad look but I doubt it will affect anyone. Pros on a work deadline don't use iPhone Pro for work (or all least they should know better than to trust a full shooting day to a smartphone's inherent optics, sensor and storage limitations). And casual or even power users would probably opt for a faster and kore convenient wireless connection. But still a bad look for Apple.
 
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At this point they're keeping the Lightning one more year only out of spite for the EU ruling.
iPhone 14 design was baked in long before the EU announcement. By not rushing to redesign, they saved billions of $ and probably didn't lose a single sale to customers ranting and raving about the lack of USB-C support.
 
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