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iPhone 14 Pro's Lightning Connector Still Limited to USB 2.0 Speeds Despite Large 48MP ProRAW Photos
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I mean, I know the Lightning port is a bit smaller than a USB-C port, but there's nothing magical about it that will prevent dust/lint from getting inside just as easily as the USB-C port. Before I started using port plugs for this very reason, I remember on my iPhone 6S I once extracted a shockingly large wad of impacted lint that was preventing the Lightning cable from making a proper connection.
It’s not forced and completely wrong. Having no port is completely fine. Apple can have lightning port as well as long as a USB c port also exist. Using wireless technology only is 100% legal. He is just wrong.
Why would you buy a computer you don’t use to transfer iPhone content? Likely a lot of people are not professionals, if not up to 90%+ are normal consumers who take normal photos and vacation videos that easily could go up 100Gb of content
Nobody is controlling what apple design their products. It’s EUs business what standards they set and apple can chose to to enter their market or not. Apple doesn’t have a right to foreign markets. If they don’t like it they can just leave the market, or get in line with the legally required standards.
And this USB c standard includes everything, keyboards, mouse, headsets, power banks, controllers etc etc must all use USB c instead of micro usb. Laptops will be required to have a USB C port by 2025 I think.
Apple isn’t special. Everyone using micro USB will switch to USB C. And phones will have to support the same USB PD standard as a baseline next to their potential proprietary solution
Meh 🤷🏼♂️ “reliable sources” said the apple watch 7 would be flat… battery life is so good anymore that as long as its fast enough to be topped off after a nights sleep, its fast enough. I may be and hope I am wrong, I just don’t see Apple putting a USBC in an iPhone.
You should get updated on EU anti trust cases. They aren’t okay with it. Especially how google is doing it on other manufacturers phones.That's the big issue. I still find it hillarious that the EU back in the days found it unacceptable to bundle a browser with an OS (Microsoft case). But nowadays they find it totally acceptable to bundle the OS with the hardware in the smartphone market.
If they forced the manufacturers to allow the user to install their OS of choice, then it would be easy to vote with the wallet. People would pay for their iOS or android (or use open source) and combine it with a phone they like.
Right now, if for some reason one wants iOS, they also have to buy in the lightning.
Of course, apple could also have a BTO option where one could choose the port.
Glad to hear it, but logically there's no reason for them to not ban it since they have a precedent for telling companies how to handle their i/o standards.
But you would be using it. And it's a much more seamless experience with a Mac if you're wanting to use an iPhone. And how often are you going on vacations where you're taking 100GB worth of pictures and video so that the transfer speed would be a huge deal? Not very often, I'm guessing.
Is the i/o of the iPhone part of its design? Yes. Is the EU trying to control what i/o Apple uses? Yes. Ergo, they are trying to control the product's design. And again I 110% disagree that it should be the EU's business. If you think it is, then you're going to have to be ok with ANY further meddling they engage in, even if it's imposing something you don't find desirable. And not sure what it being a foreign market to Apple has to do with anything, as the regulation would effect European-based companies as well of course.
And I'd have the same objection to all of that - government should not be controlling how manufacturers design their products - I don't care if it's Apple or some relatively unknown company with 50 employees. It's utterly ridiculous. If consumers want devices with USB-C i/o then they will buy them. Simple as that!
This is totally unacceptable in 2022, they've had years to get this right.
Just proves my point that Apple these days is run by our of touch boomers who probably don't even know what a USB c port is. Funny how when I called them that a couple weeks ago I was criticized for it and Macrumors even censored my post! And now they post this! Why the about face?
Let's all face it, Apple's "pro" naming is nothing more than a marketing gimmick, if anyone truly needed a pro level device they aren't buying an iPhone as while it has some nice stuff it's still held back by the ancient lightning port, comically low ram, and still doesn't offer half the stuff that's been around for years on other phones.
Any flagship Android phone including all those Chinese phones are much more "pro" than anything Apple makes.
Imagine if a power tool company made a drill that doesn't have a replaceable battery, and only charged with a micro USB cable and took 2-3 to charge, would anyone consider that drill a "professional" level tool that carpenter or mechanic would use? Of course not, it would be thought of as some cheap consumer junk.
Tim Cook has to go, and yes, Apple should be forced to change this as corporations throughout history have always needed intervention to do the right thing so much of the time. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Apple comes out with a car that can only be charged with lightning and takes 6 months to charge the battery up to 50%.
Vote with your wallets and don't buy the iPhone 14 series! Buy a Sony, a Samsung, a one plus, you'll get ridiculously fast charging, high speed data transfer, loads of ram, useable optical zoom cameras, plus all sorts of "pro" level stuff that you'll never find on an iPhone. Remember, the OS is all fluff, if you're truly a "pro" and use your phone for work what matters is if the tool can get the job done, not whether the animations are pretty, or if you're text bubbles are a certain color, etc.
Just proves my point that Apple these days is run by our of touch boomers who probably don't even know what a USB c port is. Funny how when I called them that a couple weeks ago I was criticized for it and Macrumors even censored my post! And now they post this! Why the about face?
Let's all face it, Apple's "pro" naming is nothing more than a marketing gimmick, if anyone truly needed a pro level device they aren't buying an iPhone as while it has some nice stuff it's still held back by the ancient lightning port, comically low ram, and still doesn't offer half the stuff that's been around for years on other phones.
Any flagship Android phone including all those Chinese phones are much more "pro" than anything Apple makes.
Imagine if a power tool company made a drill that doesn't have a replaceable battery, and only charged with a micro USB cable and took 2-3 to charge, would anyone consider that drill a "professional" level tool that carpenter or mechanic would use? Of course not, it would be thought of as some cheap consumer junk.
Tim Cook has to go, and yes, Apple should be forced to change this as corporations throughout history have always needed intervention to do the right thing so much of the time. At this point I wouldn't be surprised if Apple comes out with a car that can only be charged with lightning and takes 6 months to charge the battery up to 50%.
Vote with your wallets and don't buy the iPhone 14 series! Buy a Sony, a Samsung, a one plus, you'll get ridiculously fast charging, high speed data transfer, loads of ram, useable optical zoom cameras, plus all sorts of "pro" level stuff that you'll never find on an iPhone. Remember, the OS is all fluff, if you're truly a "pro" and use your phone for work what matters is if the tool can get the job done, not whether the animations are pretty, or if you're text bubbles are a certain color, etc.
Nobody’s post gets “censored” for declaring their opinion on lightning vs usb-c as long as the post adheres to site regulations. This thread is about the size of raw files vs usb 2.0 so naturally there will be some debate.
Then what are they buying? And is this an opinion or fact?
Ok.
Not in the same league. Drills aren’t expected to be waterproof and most cost hundreds not thousands.
This is a bad analogy.
Is that why he has to fly in a private plane, because he has to go?
Shareholders have the power, but they don’t want to get rid of the goose that lays the golden egg.
No hyperbole here.
Too late. Just bought a pro max with another one coming soon.
You are more than welcome to have my Sony or Samsung device.
What matters is the work you get done, not what another internet poster thinks you can get done.
Teenagers think otherwise about the bubbles as I understand it.
There is no precedent for this, and no reason to ban wireless technology as the market has practically settled for Qi charging standard. Ports was a mess with popular support for clean up. And they all agreed to settle it themselves or get legal enforcement.
This is the same with anything then in a nation. You aren’t allowed to sell electro with led. You aren’t allowed to sell cloths without proper markings, can’t call something honey without it being x% from actual honey compared to corn syrup, car light standards, minimum energy efficiency standard for a dryer or refrigerator to be sold. Etc etc and other regulations
Well it’s literally EUs business as it’s an economic union of 27 markets that started with vastly different standards. It has a democratic mandate of its elected body of eu citizens and political bodies of the member states to mandate legal rules and standards for things to be sold in EU markets.
The fact apple is a foreign company following US standards, doesn’t mean another market must lower or change them to make business easier.
Just as Tesla had to use the standard CCS typ 2 instead of their proprietary US cable.
But you would 99% never use it. Surf the web, play games, do work etc that you do on your main computer isn’t a great reason to buy a one purpose computer as the overwhelming majority seem to have concluded as well as they don’t own a Mac.
So let’s say 30-60min total of 4k video. 10-21Gb
And 500 photos. That’s 15-40Gb of photos.
Making the total 25-60Gb of vacation photos/video.
And we could also already have a few hundred Gigabytes of material already on our phones that we sync to our computer, restore a backup etc etc. and still we are stuck with USB 2 for no benefit at all.
I don’t know how you mean control. Apple and other companies aren’t controlled. They are free to manufacture any device they want and sell it somewhere else such as USA, Australia, Uk Etc etc.
USB-C isn’t an important consumer feature in relation to the device itself
Do you want the best gaming mouse? It’s micro usb. Best wireless keyboards? Micro USB, some of the best headsets? Micro USB. Vast majority of rechargeable and cheap trinkets? Micro USB. Power banks portable hotspot? Charged with micro USB.
In EU cable waste will be minimized as one type can be used with higher standard instead of 3.
The introduction of a “common charger” is an attempt by the EU to both cut down on e-waste and make life easier for consumers.
Thierry Breton, commissioner for the EU’s internal market quote:
Just a thought - if a company doesn't do something we feel they ought to do, how can we be so sure that they are the ones who are wrong and that we are right, rather than the other way around?
I mean, tons of people here felt (and probably still feel) that Apple ought to acquire Netflix. Just as they once believed that the iPod was a complete waste of time. Or that Apple "needs" to release a folding phone.
Anecdotally speaking, I have yet to actually plug in anything into my 13 pro max for the express purposes of transferring data.
I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have plugged in a lightning cable for charging (at work, because I forgot to switch on my MagSafe charger the night before). And I have connected a Khadas Tea amplifier to it for music listening as well. But I find the bulk of data transfer to and from my iPhone is done wirelessly these days.
They are not more "pro" in the areas that actually matter to me as a consumer.
For starters, they lack the integrated ecosystem, the apps, the long term support.
Being able to charge with a usb-c cable may be convenient (again, I have been using a MagSafe charger with mine since the day I bought it), but I wouldn't go so far as to claim that this one perk alone makes up for all the other advantages that the android ecosystem lacks (for me).
Then simply don't buy it. It's not like there's only one car in the whole world you can use.
Let me see how I use my devices at work...
1) There really is no substitute for the Apple Watch, I find, and I use my Apple Watch quite a but. Siri watch face for my daily schedule, Apple Pay, music control, unlocking my Mac, accessing passwords via 1password etc. At this point, it doesn't feel like there is a smartwatch market. Only an Apple Watch market.
2) Apps (Tweetbot, Apollo, Overcast, Fantastical, Marvis, Lumi, Notability, Lumafusion). A lot of apps I have come to love and rely on (both for leisure and for work) simply aren't available on Android, and I am not a fan of the alternatives.
3) Ecosystem. And this is from someone living in Asia where practically nobody uses iMessage.
I get it. You are upset the iPhone is still on lightning. You then proceeded to go way off tangent and engage in a rant that just unequivocally wrong and shortsighted.
You should have just stopped at "The iPhone still doesn't have usb-c and I think that sucks".
Sure, it is. But why also not have USB 3.0 speeds via connection? Especially when iPad Pro has it. How do you justify that?
You need a USB3 controller chip, and you need a bigger socket breakout to use both sides of the lightning connector.
Because they don’t want to encourage users to invest in more lightning accessories months before retiring this port technology.
Even the Max phone has no space for that? Even so, if what you say is true then why doesn't Apple give the same explanation like you just gave here? Why are they staying silent on the matter and letting users be frustrated and make up false facts?
If you are pirating, it’s best if you use a media metadata server such as Jellyfin, and a file server such as RAID60 plus NextCloud plus reClone.
Fair enough.
I'm not saying this is an ideal arrangement and I do think the lightning cable, allbeit not an issue for me personally, is the only blemish on an otherwise excellent phone.
Given how the regulations for apple to implement usb-c were proposed this year, it was pretty fair to not expect the jump to usb-c with the current generation; that said I totally expect the 15 series to go full usb-c (hopefully thunderbolt).
An excellent opportunity to entice people into upgrading.
Given also how apple likes to use flashy lines in their marketing, I can imagine them quoting how they said the lightning cable would last 10 years, back in 2012.
I can already see it, it's just perfect.
Given how smartphones rely on a super-tight integration between software and hardware (more than computers for sure), it would be development hell.
We would never have the fairly polished experience we have with iOS and Android (each flavour of it, at that).
A tinkerer's dream? Sure, but quite the miserable experience for the average user.
Similarly every car manufacturer has its own user interface (for obvious reasons), and I don't see Porsche allowing you to install the UI from Ferrari or Audi (or a random distro of Linux for that matter).
Smartphones are build first and foremost for convenience (isn't the purpose of a smartphone to make our life more convenient, after all?!) and having more customisation is something more akin to computers (or some tablets, at most).
I guess it's less of a "why not" and more of a "I am indifferent either way" kind of scenario.
I found a solution to this. I still have an iPhone SE 1st gen and planning to get an iPhone 14 Pro for cooking videos. I will be using Filmic Pro and Halide, so big files and was hoping for USB-C upgrade.
Solution: I did a quick test and it works, I used Resilio Sync Home which is kind of dropbox but without their own cloud. It uses torrent technology for transfer and also uses wi-fi without going through an outside server, so it's device-router-device. So you're limited to your network speed or device speed.
It works with other apps because you can access their files through the files system but not with photos/movies taken with iPhone standard camera app.
Maybe it helps someone.
Solution: I did a quick test and it works, I used Resilio Sync Home which is kind of dropbox but without their own cloud. It uses torrent technology for transfer and also uses wi-fi without going through an outside server, so it's device-router-device. So you're limited to your network speed or device speed.
It works with other apps because you can access their files through the files system but not with photos/movies taken with iPhone standard camera app.
Maybe it helps someone.