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Another thing, the only persons this would bother is someone upgrading from a iPhone 13 to 14. If you upgrading from a 12 or earlier, it won't even cross your mind that you are using a one year old SoC thats likely optimized.
 
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Actually, I think the reality is that they need to innovate to give people a real reason to move to new hardware. My daughter inherited my 8+ a long time ago and it still suits her needs. Who really cares about the A15 vs A16 vs A17? Most people on a phone are doing web searches; messaging; streaming and social media apps. For the people that need it, yeah, I can see it...but that's not the majority of customers.
While I agree with your statement, those exact same words have been true for many years.

But I think you're forgetting that increasingly more and more people spend more and more time with their tech and thus feel that any small improvement to their experience is worth all the added expenses, even if it's just a spec bump and not really any new hardware.

Plus, most consumers buy smartphones using various deals and offers that either lower the price or spread out the costs over years, or both.

So the whole thing of scrutinising your needs and funds and the actual gained value of upgrading to a new product, like most other out-of-pocket purchases involve, simply aren't a part of the equation for most smartphone buyers.

The 14 standard might see very low sales if it's really as lacklustre as the analysts paint it. But only because the 14 Pro, 14 Max Pro and new 14 Plus/Max will sell better than ever.
 
This is all much to do about nothing. Let’s see what actually happens in a few weeks. Not worth getting excited about. They haven’t listened to us in a decade anyway!
 
“Better modem”. The lamest excuse to increase the price or make me “update” (is this an update???) my 13 to a 14…
Thinking it again, CPU is basically a commodity now and the raw speeds of phones CPUs is negligible. Perhaps faster memory, more RAM, wider bus, bigger cache, etc. Can make a bigger difference in “snappiness” overall.
Still the question remains: what drives the updates now, from the hardware point of view?
 
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I don’t understand what you mean by this. The iPhone 13 is almost certainly getting a price cut of at least $100.

It will probably be more like what they did with the Xs, where it simply replaced the X, which was no longer sold at all. So that would like like the iPhone 13 disappears (except for the mini most likely), the 14 is sold at the same price as the current 13, and the cheaper model continues to be the 12.
 
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Completely overpriced. Yet I still bought one because honestly I had a good trade in promotion from Verizon that brought the price down to what I felt it was worth.
Yea was 800 Instant and some Installment credits. Just could be difficult getting your first with nothing to trade.
 
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I'm still rocking an 11 Pro Max that's starting to have battery issues. I'll be getting whatever the new biggest iPhone Pro is gonna be called. As to the general populace, they will buy the new iPhone 14 regardless of what chip is in it. Most people (not on this forum) don't know or care what processor, or generation of said processor, is in the iPhone. It seems like they only want the newest one, especially if it's in a fun new color.
 
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It will probably be more like what they did with the Xs, where it simply replaced the X, which was no longer sold at all. So that would like like the iPhone 13 disappears (except for the mini most likely), the 14 is sold at the same price as the current 13, and the cheaper model continues to be the 12.
Agree 100%.

SE 2022, 12, (maybe) 13 mini and all the new iPhones 14 is the official 2022 lineup.

Especially the standard 14 won't benefit from comparison to last year's lineup. So 13 has to go.

*I highly doubt the 13 mini staying since it is 1/1 just a 13 (standard) with a smaller display and battery and would thus serve to highlight how few upgrades the 14 (standard) has actually gotten, assuming no new SoC.
 
I'm still rocking an 11 Pro Max that's starting to have battery issues. I'll be getting whatever the new biggest iPhone Pro is gonna be called. As to the general populace, they will buy the new iPhone 14 regardless of what chip is in it. Most people (not on this forum) don't know or care what processor, or generation of said processor, is in the iPhone. It seems like they only want the newest one, especially if it's in a fun new color.
Why not just get a battery replacement?
 
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“Better modem”. The lamest excuse to increase the price or make me “update” (is this an update???) my 13 to a 14…
Thinking it again, CPU is basically a commodity now and the raw speeds of phones CPUs is negligible. Perhaps faster memory, more RAM, wider bus, bigger cache, etc. Can make a bigger difference in “snappiness” overall.
Still the question remains: what drives the updates now, from the hardware point of view?
I feel like 13 was a really well-optimised version of 12.

So maybe 14 will be a exceptionally well-optimised version of 13?

Seems like there's something missing for the 14 (standard) to be a $799 iPhone.
 
It will probably be more like what they did with the Xs, where it simply replaced the X, which was no longer sold at all. So that would like like the iPhone 13 disappears (except for the mini most likely), the 14 is sold at the same price as the current 13, and the cheaper model continues to be the 12.

That’s only for iPhones sold directly by Apple though. Dozens of retailers continue to sell discontinued iPhones on contracts etc. Not sure what happens in the US but this is certainly the case in Europe. You can still buy the 12 Pro here new for example.
 
I don't like all this talk of discontinuing the 13. I've been waiting until September to trade in my 8+ for a 13 mini when the prices drop. Still going to hold on and see what happens, but I'm preparing for a mad scramble to get hold of the last of the minis now as soon as the 14 announcement happens.
 


The standard iPhone 14 models will still have better performance than the iPhone 13, despite containing the same A15 Bionic chip, according to leaker "ShrimpApplePro."

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In March, Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo claimed that only the iPhone 14 Pro models will feature the A16 chip, with the standard iPhone 14 and iPhone 14 Max models to be equipped with the A15 chip like the iPhone 13. In an April edition of his newsletter, Bloomberg's Mark Gurman agreed that standard iPhone 14 models are "likely to stick to the A15 from last year or a variant of it." The rumor has since been echoed by other sources like Taiwanese research firm TrendForce.

This differs from Apple's strategy to date of equipping all of the latest iPhones with the same chip. For example, the iPhone 13 mini, iPhone 13, iPhone 13 Pro, and iPhone 13 Pro Max are all equipped with the A15 chip.

Despite retaining "some old hardware," the non-Pro iPhone 14 models will "still have some overall performance boost over the iPhone 13 series," ShrimpApplePro said in a tweet. This is reportedly due to a new cellular modem and a new internal design, among other changes.

These other improvements could include more memory, with the all of the iPhone 14 models expected to feature 6GB of memory, 2GB more than the iPhone 13. The iPhone 14's new, more efficient modem is expected to be physically smaller, use less power, and offer a high level of performance. As such, ShrimpApplePro's claim that the iPhone 14 will still offer performance improvements seems likely.

Earlier this year, Gurman said that "beyond trying to make the Pro stand out," ongoing chip shortages may have contributed to Apple's decision to limit its upcoming chip to the iPhone 14 Pro models.

Article Link: iPhone 14 Still to Boast Performance Improvement Despite Sticking With A15 Chip
I only upgrade my phone about every four or five years when it starts to feel like is getting slower. I got an iPhone 13 so I'm all set for quite awhile.
 
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RAM was predicted to remain at 6GB this year. Hard to imagine significant gains, no matter the specs, in cameras over the 13 Pro. Also hard to imagine significant gains in battery life. No new tach on that front. Better radios, possible. New FaceID doesn’t mean much since the slightly decrease space vs the already shrunken 13 Pro notch doesn’t give us any more info up top. So meaningless. Like I said, sounds like a very minor year for upgrades. Even the design with look virtually identical with the new FaceID module being the only main design change. AoD is the only welcome update but that’s not a big deal. USB-C would be far more meaningful, but that’s not coming until 2023 at the earliest according to all rumors.
As always, the value of technical advancements can be very subjective.
  • Ram: Earlier rumors mentioned up to 8GB Ram. At minimum, also the smaller models will have 6GB this year (up from 4, i.e. 50% increase). And it could jump to a faster type (LPDDR5), have a wider bus and sip less power.
  • Camera: 48MP on the main cam (vs 12MP now), with an option to combine sensor pixels for better low-lighting pictures. Improved lens configuration. Front cam improved and with auto-focus. Enough upgrade reasons already for quite some people.
  • Battery life: Even noticeable improvements don’t necessarily require new battery tech. Savings can also come from better components with lower power consumption, such as e.g. Ram, CPU, radios, display etc.
  • AoD could be a big deal - if not for you, then for others. And the new screen is said to be able to go down to 1Hz (instead of 10Hz now), helping with battery and probably being a key factor for always-on.
You may expect some big and obvious jump like the switch to USB-C, but that’s probably much less of importance for people having either invested into the Lightning eco system or simply not using the port by default (or not caring at all, as long as the other end of the cable is standard USB-C).

As I said above: Different people appreciate different upgrades. But at the end of the day, even the improvements that you consider “minor“, add up over the course of a few generations. Just experienced that a couple of times in recent weeks with (amongst others) the picture/camera quality differences between an XS and a 13 Pro.
 
It’s a very concerning sign that Apple may be planning to increase the Pro models price even more.
maybe a-lot more..
 
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