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David1986H

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I hope there were new batteries, not the same ones they used in 14 Pro, which lost 10% of its health after a year...
I really don’t get why some are in the 80% range already. My 14 plus still has 100% capacity.
 

Pupi

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The fact that the Pro models have longer ranges despite smaller batteries than the non-pro counterparts indicates indeed that there are efficiency gains in the A17 Pro.
 

PhillyGuy72

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I thought I was on my own - I’m at 89% battery health after a year.

My 14 Pro can’t last the full day. I upgraded from the 12 Pro to get a better battery. My phone is at 40% now 6 hours into a working day, where I am not using the phone often. I don’t mind since I’m at home and can charge it anytime, and I normally carry the MagSafe Battery Pack when I go to work.
No, this is a widespread issue. My 13 Pro Max has better health right now than many 14 owners.
(I get the pain, my 12 Pro Max had a horrific battery...at 83% when I traded that lemon in almost 2 year ago).

Hope Apple does address this for the iPhone 14 owners...who aren't upgrading.

Few videos out of many on YouTube
 

notabadname

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What happened to the massive benefits the move to 3 nm was suppose to give? No battery life changes, +10% CPU, +20% GPU. I was expecting a bigger impact

Makes me wonder about the M3
The increased performance gains that you list with the same battery life is because of the energy benefits from the 3 nm architecture. If you used the 3 nm chip to get the same (lesser) performance as the previous phone model year, then you would have your longer battery life in this year’s model for last year’s speed. The increased performance with the same battery life is the benefit the 3 nm provides.
 
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ApplesAreSweet&Sour

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What happened to the massive benefits the move to 3 nm was suppose to give? No battery life changes, +10% CPU, +20% GPU. I was expecting a bigger impact

Makes me wonder about the M3
We have to start using iPhones 15 to get a true estimate of what we’re dealing with.

Yes, mAhs/capacity is a big part of this. But it’s not entire picture, especially with how Apple does efficiency.

Could be worse or better than 13 and 14 Pros, there’s no telling just by these numbers. 🤷‍♂️
 
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cocky jeremy

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Almost 100 mAh more on the Pro Max. Weird that the battery life is the same. Shouldn't the 3nm chip make it automatically go up?
 

ApplesAreSweet&Sour

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I really don’t get why some are in the 80% range already. My 14 plus still has 100% capacity.
This alleged issue is not with 14 and 14 Plus.

It seems to mainly impact iPhones 14 Pro and 14 Pro Max, and it seems to be related to the AOD (although some are reporting massive wear on batteries despite turning it off).

I don’t know the scope of the issue. But it’s so big that several many tech media outlets and independent reviewers are reporting on it.

I think even MacRumors has posted about it.
 
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Mark.g4

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Almost 100 mAh more on the Pro Max. Weird that the battery life is the same. Shouldn't the 3nm chip make it automatically go up?

why 100mAh?

iPhone 14 Pro Max: 4323mAh
iPhone 15 Pro MAx: 4852mAh

529mAh

but if I misunderstood, I apologize, maybe you were talking about something else.
 

Boy261

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Really a smaller battery than last year in the 14 pro max. When will apple learn.

Scrap that I can’t read.
The same happened to me 😂, thought they had reduced de mAH, and i was like i know they are more efficient and a bit smaller but c’mon smaller battery?! Really?! , luckily its complete the opposite🥳.

Though apple tends to list the battery usage time as same between two generations but most of the time the phones that ended up with less mAh normally lasted a bit less. Happened with the 12 pros and the 14 pros.

I can see the 15 pro lineup specially the pro max lasting bit longer than the 14 pro max does
 

Dinozero

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I am actually really happy about this. Yes it's a small change, but the iPhone 14 was a small change to less than the 13, and they added the always on display, and even though the two phones are rated the same (13/14) in the real world people felt like the 14 battery didn't last a long.

Who knows.. Hear me out. *maybe* apple was experimenting with not allowing the batteries to have an invisible "cushion" to save some money. So, thinking like EV cars, maybe the iPhone 13 doesn't really allow you to charge to 100%, maybe it only allows you to charge to 95%. And this saves the battery life.

Then on the iPhone 14, with all the inflation and things. Maybe apple said "here's an idea, we'll reduce the battery size, but allow them to charge to 100%, because we have this smart software that will predict when they charge and it'll all even out."

But it didn't.. I have an iPhone 14PM since launch day, with AOD off, and it's at 92%.

It could also be due to the fact most of us use fast chargers, and wireless chargers now.. and neither is as good for our phones as those slow 5w bricks.
 

Lionel Messi

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Dec 2, 2013
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No, this is a widespread issue. My 13 Pro Max has better health right now than many 14 owners.
(I get the pain, my 12 Pro Max had a horrific battery...at 83% when I traded that lemon in almost 2 year ago).

Hope Apple does address this for the iPhone 14 owners...who aren't upgrading.

Few videos out of many on YouTube
Thanks for sharing. I thought it was an isolated issue. I’ll have a look at the videos to see what others are going through. It is crazy how bad the battery is. I would get the Pro Max for the bigger battery but I really can’t stand the larger size + weight. So I have to make do with the Pro.
 
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randyhudson

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> which suggested that the major efficiency improvements of the A17 Pro chip would bring battery life improvements

Did it suggest that? You might want to research the energy usage of smartphone components (hint, it's the display)
 

Denzo

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Uh oh this does not look so promising. We got to trust in 3-nm process though. The chip is cutting-edge.
Honestly I didn’t notice any difference between my 12 pro and 13 pro as they are both basically instantaneous.

It’s not just apple, chip makes uses numbers in the thousands to illustrate a big difference where I rarely would except even a 10% increase at this point in real life scenarios. More like 2-3% quicker safari opening speed.

Edit. Will also add my wife’s 13 pro max is at 81% battery and mine just got swapped it was at 86% but obviously I’m back to 100% post swap. It’s weird for me I’ve always been well in the 90s before an upgrade. (Not upgrading now as I don’t see the purpose which is a good thing). I’m not trying to upgrade unless something blows me away for my hard earned.
 

JPack

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why 100mAh?

iPhone 14 Pro Max: 4323mAh
iPhone 15 Pro MAx: 4852mAh

529mAh

but if I misunderstood, I apologize, maybe you were talking about something else.

Where the heck are you getting your 15 number?
 

vertsix

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Aug 12, 2015
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Bigger battery than 13 Pro Max. Hopefully it at least matches it in actual battery life.
 

now i see it

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The 15pm has a 100ma bigger battery than the 14pm - yet has the same battery run time estimate.
This year’s 3nm SOC seems to not be any more efficient than last year’s.
 
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