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The 15pm has a 100ma bigger battery than the 14pm - yet has the same battery run time estimate.
This year’s 3nm SOC seems to not be any more efficient than last year’s.

We’ll see once someone can do a battery test, of course, if they are testing a year old 14pm to a brand new 15pm the new one is gonna do better.

Hopefully Apple comes out with a usbc MagSafe battery pack soon.
 
We’ll see once someone can do a battery test, of course, if they are testing a year old 14pm to a brand new 15pm the new one is gonna do better.

Hopefully Apple comes out with a usbc MagSafe battery pack soon.
Most apps that one connects a phone to still reveal the “design capacity” and then the current capacity. That’s ultimately how the phone knows what current capacity is
 
Keeping your battery at 100% health is very easy if you know what to do.

Charge your iPhone to 80% maximum and then don't let it drop below 40-50%. You'll still be at 100% after a year.
Ah yes, baby my device to limit its effective battery capacity to 30% so I could save at best 10% capacity over a year, on a consumable, cheap and easily replaceable part.
 
So the battery capacity of the iPhone 15pro is bigger (even though only 2.3%) than the iPhone 14pro and it's using the new 3nm chip but Apple doesn't claim improved battery life? That would be a little disappointing if it turns out to be true... 2.3% of 23 hours should already be a good half hour extra runtime alone.

Would be surprising if the new 3nm process plus the (supposedly) more efficient 5g modem (Qualcomm X70/75) doesn't at least account for another 30 minutes, which in turn should account for a good extra hour of battery life in total. I'm curious what real world tests will show after all!
It’s also calculating more stuff in the background. For example portrait photos. Just watch the keynote.
 
Would of been too good to be true with those leaked battery specs. Still not bad, at least their not smaller.
 
Dude, are you for real? :D

Imagine myself traveling and taking some pictures... Oh **** my phone battery is at 40%! I have to turn it off! 🤣

Of course you can let it run below occasionally that's just the general advice. My battery was still at 100% after two years by following this method.

Saves me a lot of money in the long run.
 
Hopefully the batteries don’t degrade as fast as they do on the 14. I’m at 89% in less than a year. I’m also curious if those with higher than normal battery capacity loss mostly charge wirelessly instead of hardwired.

I charge nightly wirelessly (MagSafe Duo) and if I need a boost during the day, hardwired.
 
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I thought I was on my own - I’m at 89% battery health after a year.

My 14 Pro can’t last the full day. I upgraded from the 12 Pro to get a better battery. My phone is at 40% now 6 hours into a working day, where I am not using the phone often. I don’t mind since I’m at home and can charge it anytime, and I normally carry the MagSafe Battery Pack when I go to work.
I found that some apps are still ignoring background app update toggles.

Govee temperature app for example, will drain 50% of your entire iPhone 14 battery in 2 hrs.

I had to set a Shortcut automation to remind me to force quit the app whenever I exit it or it'll wreck my phone.

I've contacted support, and supplied a negative review, but they have yet to fix it. iPhone 14, 15 it will have no benefit on battery life of a bad app.
 
I honestly don’t understand Apple so focused on increasing performance while going for no battery life improvements. I think the vast majority of people would be happy w/ same performance as the 14 Pro but 1 hour more battery.
 
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The battery management on iPhones and other apple products is much more advanced than it used to be... this means that you can basically use it any way you want as long as its not extreme.. like leaving it charged to 100% and left in a hot car in the sun on a summers day... or left in a drawer at 0% for a year.

That the prices for battery replacements has recently been reduced is also a good thing...

A battery on an iPhone these days can easily last 3 plus years for most people before needing replacement. So in theory if you're getting 6 years or so of iOS updates... you just need to replace the battery once in its lifetime before other parts of the phone start to break etc

Then take it to Apple to have it recycled responsibly/ or traded in.
 
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Guys I have a question

Now I have a 13PM that I charge overnight with a 5W Apple charger.

I bought a 15PM so due to USB-C the 5W charger will not work anymore because the new cable is USB-C to USB-C.

It’s the 20W USB-C charger safe to use every day or it will degrade the battery faster?
 
Isn't that a plus that the quality stays high longer 🧐
Or Apple intentionally tweak the software to hide battery degradation from customer and use that to refuse battery replacement until AppleCare or limited warranty runs out. They can then charge money for battery replacement.
 
I found that some apps are still ignoring background app update toggles.

Govee temperature app for example, will drain 50% of your entire iPhone 14 battery in 2 hrs.

I had to set a Shortcut automation to remind me to force quit the app whenever I exit it or it'll wreck my phone.

I've contacted support, and supplied a negative review, but they have yet to fix it. iPhone 14, 15 it will have no benefit on battery life of a bad app.
Ah. Makes sense now. I’m sure there are some apps that do the same on my phone. Background app refreshes are disabled for 95% of the apps on my phone. I’ll make sure to quit apps more often! Thanks a lot!!
 
I honestly don’t understand Apple so focused on increasing performance while going for no battery life improvements. I think the vast majority of people would be happy w/ same performance as the 14 Pro but 1 hour more battery.
A day longer before a recharge is what I want. Imagine having the battery life of a 2000 Nokia 3310 in a Pro Max phone.
 
Or Apple intentionally tweak the software to hide battery degradation from customer and use that to refuse battery replacement until AppleCare or limited warranty runs out. They can then charge money for battery replacement.
I think the issue is the better battery management and battery chemistry, along with optimisations in processor energy usage mean that batteries are generally lasting longer.. are in better health for a longer time. I think it means most iPhones and other devices don't hit that 80% battery health level much within the normal Apple Care timeframe..

But there is the option to keep Apple Care going until cancelled or Apple pull it, which I have done on my iPad Air 4.

At least Apple battery replacement costs are not horrendously bad... I think other companies charge you far more to have sealed batteries replaced.
 
Guys I have a question

Now I have a 13PM that I charge overnight with a 5W Apple charger.

I bought a 15PM so due to USB-C the 5W charger will not work anymore because the new cable is USB-C to USB-C.

It’s the 20W USB-C charger safe to use every day or it will degrade the battery faster?
I believe the iPhone 15 Pro Max could be charged with a USB Type A to Type C cable. Mind you, it's going to take about 3-4 hours to complete a full charge if the phone has under 10% battery charge, though.
 
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A day longer before a recharge is what I want. Imagine having the battery life of a 2000 Nokia 3310 in a Pro Max phone.
Just wait for them releasing iPhone editions with long-term support... where the main features are larger batteries and longer term software support.. guaranteed 8 or 10 year support. The industry is heading in this direction, consumers, governments are waking up to the fact that the current situation cannot sustain rapid turnover of energy intensive and scarce resource manufacturing.

iPhone LTS

It could be targeted at business and consumers, with editions released at 3 to 4 year intervals. I mean its been happening to the iPhone SE.

Then have an edition that is refreshed more frequently for those needing more power or features etc
 
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Guys I have a question

Now I have a 13PM that I charge overnight with a 5W Apple charger.

I bought a 15PM so due to USB-C the 5W charger will not work anymore because the new cable is USB-C to USB-C.

It’s the 20W USB-C charger safe to use every day or it will degrade the battery faster?

To use the 5W charger with 15PM get a USB-A to USB-C cable.

It will take 5 hrs to charge if the 13PM is of any indicator. Good way to charge when sleeping.

I'd look for a 27-35W car fast charger if you want to do 0-50% within 30 mins.

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Just wait for them releasing iPhone editions with long-term support... where the main features are larger batteries and longer term software support.. guaranteed 8 or 10 year support. The industry is heading in this direction, consumers, governments are waking up to the fact that the current situation cannot sustain rapid turnover of energy intensive and scarce resource manufacturing.

iPhone LTS

It could be targeted at business and consumers, with editions released at 3 to 4 year intervals. I mean its been happening to the iPhone SE.

Then have an edition that is refreshed more frequently for those needing more power or features etc
iOS Security Updates stretches out to 8 years already.

But due to wear and tear a device that often gets banged up with keys & coins in pockets and being dropped to hard flooring will likely not survive intact to 8 years.
 
iOS Security Updates stretches out to 8 years already.

But due to wear and tear a device that often gets banged up with keys & coins in pockets and being dropped to hard flooring will likely not survive intact to 8 years.
That's true... it depends on how you treat it and which case you use :)

But to include software updates that not only address security, but squeeze in features that are needed to keep the device competent for use on the web, connectivity and other OS convenience features. The key thing here for businesses would be apple saying we will support this device with OS updates until XX and hardware and battery servicing will be available until XX etc
 
That's true... it depends on how you treat it and which case you use :)

But to include software updates that not only address security, but squeeze in features that are needed to keep the device competent for use on the web, connectivity and other OS convenience features. The key thing here for businesses would be apple saying we will support this device with OS updates until XX and hardware and battery servicing will be available until XX etc
Let us take macOS on Macs.

Software Updates end after the 1st 8 years then Security Updates continue an additional near 2 years.

So the Mac is good to be used for approx 10 years. In terms of die shrinks that's jumping from a 22nm to 5nm device.

As it is right now Apple's iOS implementation is good. Not having the latest features that will slow down older hardware is good too.

If the user is unwilling or unable to replace approaching 8 years then are they really the market for the latest and greatest?

As I pointed out earlier devices in our pockets do not last that long and those with the means will replaced sooner than 8 years.

Would it be worth any company's time to support hardwared that originally numbered in the hundreds of millions when they dropped to mere hundreds 8 years later?

I've heard of someone proposing that there be a fee for extended support. Would people that cannot afford a new device be willing to pay for extended support or even understand what it means? Remember, they'd need to raise enough revenue to pay a software dev that costs them about $100k annually.

It is today's equivalent of Apple spending any money to support 32bit-only 2006 Intel Macs. It makes zero sense to do so.
 
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