iPhone 15 Models Still Limited to 7.5W on Qi Chargers, Fast Charging Has Not Improved

[Paddle1]

Right. Same for the Lightning-port iPad Pros, which also supported USB3 (even though nobody talks about it when trying to justify the "need" to switch to USB-C).

From what I heard Lightning didn't have the bandwidth to properly support USB3 so they had to do some kind of hacky workaround with the pins. They tried it one year on the iPad Pro then ditched it for USB-C on the next one and never brought it to the iPhone.

 

[compwiz1202]

To be fair, they don’t usually announce the minor 2-3W bumps in wired charging speed, people usually discover it after launch.

Yea just need to use an app or physical meter to detect charging wattage.

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

The A17 Pro is the first chip iPhone chip with USB3 HCI. The USB 2 speeds are based on the A16 having USB 2 hardware support.

Presumably when an iPhone model has something newer than the A16, it will also have something newer than USB 2 support.

Right, so why does the top of the line, premium, 2023 iPhone Pro, have USB 3.1, a 10 year old tech, running at 10 Gbps, when my 2021 MBP has 40 Gbps?

I want a phone to pair with my laptop. I don't mind paying a premium price for top quality. But this? This is a joke. It has the premium price, but lacks the premium features.

 

[Jamie0003]

Right, so why does the top of the line, premium, 2023 iPhone Pro, have USB 3.1, a 10 year old tech, running at 10 Gbps, when my 2021 MBP has 40 Gbps?

I want a phone to pair with my laptop. I don't mind paying a premium price for top quality. But this? This is a joke. It has the premium price, but lacks the premium features.

10gbps is plenty for 90% of use cases….

 

[sideshowuniqueuser]

10gbps is plenty for 90% of use cases….

Let me just repeat. This is a PRO phone with a PRO price tag.

 

[_Spinn_]

This is too bad. Maybe the iPhone 16 will support faster charging via Qi2

 

[minimoo]

10gbps is plenty for 90% of use cases….

Let me just repeat. This is a PRO phone with a PRO price tag.

Exactly. They could leave all the "90% of use case" to iPhone 15 range.

They use all fancy words but their recent path doesn't quite match the words they use.

Emphasising carbon neutral policy then put USB-C data cable with 2.0 speed in Pro models packaging where absolutely most "Pro" users would ditch and generate more carbon waste?

Despite PRO marketing strategy, USB 2.0 speed limitation on iPhone 15 range is still a joke, it's 2023. That's 480Mbps and under 100MB/s transfer speed in 2023 ? Really ? For Pro models, especially as in 2023, it would make more sense if it has Thunderbolt 3. 10Gbps seems good enough but doesn't sound "Pro" at all. I know the Pro range is kinda marketing gimmick and I have no problem with that but there is certain degree of expectation when you spend such amount of money on a device. If you recall old days, people used to complain more about Apple products equipped with features that 90% of people will never use. But now the Pro models are behind on everything really.

This almost makes me sick as 20+ years of Apple user (actually longer if I count my first Apple IIe . This is rather disgusting. They should focus more on core value of the product and user experience over those carbon neutral BS and PC, etc.

 

[Dble07]

MagSafe still being so much slower than USB-C (Wired) continues to be a major let down. Wireless charging seemed to open up so many opportunities but I almost never use it except for at the bed side where know I'll have the whole night to charge and may want to grab or put back as easily as possible. But during the day when charging rarely would want to put on MagSafe to charge quickly before going out, because charges so slowly vs the cable, and plugging in a cable only takes an extra second vs on a pad. Same with the MBP and MagSafe Power. Was so excited to finally have that but have used it 0 times, because again want to charge as fast as possible and because since it's not usb-c would be an extra cable I'd have to carry for only one use. Wish they could develop a usb-c cable with magsafe built in but so far no luck. Someday hopefully they will feel confident offering magsafe at full speeds and we can all have a truly wireless life in general.

Given the fact that the majority of the smartphone market share is limited to 15 watts as well, I don’t quite understand why you are making such a firm post on the subject. The physics behind wireless charging has its limitations, and thus it is understandable to not see huge wattage changes in a short period of time. Also given the ease of wireless charging, does it really matter if you are completely charged when you take it off the charger. MagSafe in the bedroom, car, and office(and maybe one in the living room) and you can easily maintain your charge level or better throughout the day. And what do you mean usb-c with MagSafe built in? As in usb-c to usb-c plus a puck all in the same cable? I think you are asking a lot. My personal interpretation of the benefits of magsafe:
-MagSafe wired puck in an area of the house where I might use and charge my phone at the same time
-MagSafe dock in the bedroom
-MagSafe mount in the car
-MagSafe dock on my desk
I would never carry a MagSafe cord(puck) with me. I carry a 9 foot usbc for emergency use, which rarely gets used. If I am out and about and need a fast charge it will because I can’t afford to be near a power source for an extended period of time. I will use a wired connection for such cases because wired will most likely always be faster than wireless. Same in networking. Everytime there is an upgrade to WiFi speeds, there is still wired connections that are faster.