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That's why USB-C was the right move. It's the universal standard and offers so much more freedom. Not that i'll ever hook up an ethernet cable but if I wanted I could. Imagine trying to do this over Lightning :D There are so many more things you can do now iPhone has USB-C. This is a win for everyone. Thanks EU.


Of course but if you need to hook up to a stable connection that doesn't drain battery then this might be a good alternative. That said, I'm not sure many people will be doing it.
This wasn't a win for everyone. Many of these things are complete and total gimmicks. I have yet to find a feature that this forced change grants that makes me want to "thank" the EU. Personally, I'm more annoyed with them than anything else. They stick their noses in where they don't always belong in. I would have preferred they keep their power-hungry selves out of this, but of course governments need to make it look like they're doing something. Instead of a "win", this forced change has actually made it necessary for me to purchase yet ANOTHER cable.

So at least in my case...this isn't a win and I have absolutely zero desire to thank the EU. A **** off would be more accurate. I don't understand this fetish people have for USB-C...or the EU for that matter.

And by the way...you CAN do this with Lightning. It was even in the article. :rolleyes:
 
This could come in handy for testing network connectivity and speed without needing a laptop.
I tried it with the Belkin gigabit ethernet USB-C adapter but it didn't hit those speeds.
Maybe I missed it above, but which USB-C to ethernet adapter works at these higher speeds?
 
is it possible to reverse the connection via hotspot to a pc that has no wifi for example ?
I was trying to think of any reason I would care about this feature. The best thing wouldn’t even be a PC so much as a network device like a switch.
 
This wasn't a win for everyone. Many of these things are complete and total gimmicks. I have yet to find a feature that this forced change grants that makes me want to "thank" the EU. Personally, I'm more annoyed with them than anything else. They stick their noses in where they don't always belong in. I would have preferred they keep their power-hungry selves out of this, but of course governments need to make it look like they're doing something. Instead of a "win", this forced change has actually made it necessary for me to purchase yet ANOTHER cable.

So at least in my case...this isn't a win and I have absolutely zero desire to thank the EU. A **** off would be more accurate. I don't understand this fetish people have for USB-C...or the EU for that matter.

And by the way...you CAN do this with Lightning. It was even in the article. :rolleyes:

The problem is Lightning was kept alive way too long by Apple and entirely for the purpose of profit. What Apple should have done was just make the move to USB-C at the same time as they moved Macs to all USB-C. The iPhone 7 era would have been perfect and we wouldn’t have all these completely ridiculous USB-C to Lightning cables. The reason it was perfect is that’s when they dropped the headphone jack in addition to the Mac changes. All the adapters and crap we were getting anyway would have worked on both our Macs and phones.

It was the best technical move. But Apple loves its high profit devices and adapters and certifications and control. I get it from a corporate perspective but when Apple does so much environmental finger-wagging… it’s a bad look.

Interoperability is awesome. It’s nice that chargers and Ethernet and USB drives and whatever else can be shared across multiple devices. Now I can do it everywhere. In 2017 I couldn’t even do it across my Apple devices!
 
Have you considered upgrading your router?

As per several posts above WiFi 6E can give you greater than 1 Gb ethernet speeds.

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Nice. I’ll test it again at some point. I have Orbi mesh with WiFi 6 and it is the only mesh that seems to work out in my guest house. Tried to “upgrade” to nest WiFi pro and the distance was too great. May try the newest Orbi or wait for their wifi7 mesh and try again. If it works would be great.
 
this was already working back in 2019. i first tried it with an iPad pro, when i built a demo booth for MWC. then i instantly tried it with my iphone8 and an el-cheapo lightning-to-usbA dongle and the good old USB2.0 ethernet dongle i got with my gen1 MBA. worked flawlessly.
fun fact, it also works with an USB mouse as pointing device - but there's no visible mouse arrow. and USB keyboards work too.
 
The problem is Lightning was kept alive way too long by Apple and entirely for the purpose of profit. What Apple should have done was just make the move to USB-C at the same time as they moved Macs to all USB-C. The iPhone 7 era would have been perfect and we wouldn’t have all these completely ridiculous USB-C to Lightning cables. The reason it was perfect is that’s when they dropped the headphone jack in addition to the Mac changes. All the adapters and crap we were getting anyway would have worked on both our Macs and phones.

It was the best technical move. But Apple loves its high profit devices and adapters and certifications and control. I get it from a corporate perspective but when Apple does so much environmental finger-wagging… it’s a bad look.

Interoperability is awesome. It’s nice that chargers and Ethernet and USB drives and whatever else can be shared across multiple devices. Now I can do it everywhere. In 2017 I couldn’t even do it across my Apple devices!
In fairness, there were really…problems… in the 2015-2018 era of USB-C. Including Apple’s own power adapter, the 27 watt one with the 12 inch MacBook (I think), it shouldn’t be used with later PD devices because it doesn’t have the proper range of voltages, so don’t use it with newer devices, only the devices it came with. And we had USB-A to C cables that were not spec-compliant, and they could destroy your device, they could cause a fire, etc. And we still have problems with durability and whether the port gets looser over time. Happened to my MacBook Pro, some ports got too easy to disconnect and you could stop charging from a slight tug on the cable.

So I would say there were some teething problems in the early years and I can see staying away from it for the iPhone up to about 2018, but after that it should have adopted type-C from around 2019 to 2022 instead. But it’s good to finally have it. One cable for all!
 
As per several posts above WiFi 6E can give you greater than 1 Gb ethernet speeds.
with ethernet you get even more, as it is full duplex, whereas wifi is just half duplex. with wifi all wifi clients share the available bandwidth and airtime, so if you try to upload some big video file to a computer over a wifi network, that connects both devices, you'll get half the speed in best case scenario.
but a simple ethernet switch gives you wire speed performance between multiple clients.
apparently RTL8153 is supported and it would be great if someone could check it with a RTL8156 based usb3-ethernet dongle, as it supports 2.5Gbe too.
 
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MacRumors, I'd love to see some speed tests of iPhone 15 vs. iPhone 15 Pro. According to your article, the non-Pro is exceeding the 480 Mbps speed limit of the USB 2 spec.
I ran Speedtest on my iPhone 15 Pro over ethernet adapter and reached 930Mbps down and about 40Mbps upload
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How did you get 941 upload? I can only get about 40Mbps upload on Xfinity broadband on my M1 iMac and my M2 MBA.
 
Dang, now I have to upgrade to a 15 so I can plug in my thunderbolt SFP+ adapter I use with my MBP and see if I can get 10 gig from the phone. I *only* have 2 gig Internet, but I could connect to some local resources and test throughput. Now I’m curious…. Well, I suppose I could try the same test with my iPad Pro. Maybe I’ll give that a try. In fact, I’m typing on my iPad Pro now and my fiber connection is on the same desk…. Give me 10 mins. :)

On edit. Double dang. Now I’m curious to try this with a new iPhone:

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2.5 gig does work though. I‘d never tried it until now because wifi6 is plenty fast for what I do with a mobile device:

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So this is on my last gen iPad Pro. So if I can get this speed on 2 gig Internet on this device, I’m sure the new iPhone can get at least this speed as well. I’m sure if I increase the number of streams, and therefore use multiple cores, I can get this number over 2 gig...but this is with default speedtest settings through the web version of Speedtest, not the app:

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I don't find this necessary if you have a WiFi 6e network. I ran a speed test using the Ookla Speed Test app on my iPhone 15 Pro Max and got 1.2Gbps, which is pretty much the maximum speed of my Internet connection and comparable to my computers that are hooked up via Ethernet to my 2.5Gbps Ethernet network. The WiFi on the current iPhone is blazingly fast.
 
That’s the radio link transmission rate, not the effective throughput. Try to measure download speeds on that connection.

Here is an example of actual measured throughputs:

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The Wifi 6 rate is close to what you can get over a gigabit ethernet link.

I’m going to say yes and no, with an asterisk around yes. This chart says “measured” throughput. However, it’s still not real world. Real world of of Wi-Fi 6 is definitely over 500, but usually shy of 700 for download. Upload though is typically a decent amount slower because you’re limited by the device uploading which typically doesn’t have multiple antennas in ideal locations, and most of the devices have much smaller antennas than the access point on a desk or ceiling. In addition, tweaks can be made to the channels to optimize throughput, but these same tweaks drastically reduce the signal’s ability to traverse obstacles, which means in production you tend to be a bit on the conservative side with the setup. As a real example, I’m on a Wi-Fi 6 device right now, about 4’ away, and I’m getting 608 mb, which is pretty typical and my network has had extensive tweaking.

Lastly, a wired Ethernet is also switched (in the vast majority of cases), so for all intents and purposes, you’re not sharing a pipe with other devices in the same way. Multiple fast wireless devices ”talking” at the same time drastically reduce throughput, where if I have a gig switch that has 10 gig uplink to core switches/firewall, you can have dozens of machines hammering both upload/download simultaneously without affecting the other devices on that lan/vlan.

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I don't find this necessary if you have a WiFi 6e network. I ran a speed test using the Ookla Speed Test app on my iPhone 15 Pro Max and got 1.2Gbps, which is pretty much the maximum speed of my Internet connection and comparable to my computers that are hooked up via Ethernet to my 2.5Gbps Ethernet network. The WiFi on the current iPhone is blazingly fast.
I’d bet you’d be able to get the full 2.5 gig of your interface if you were to configure the test with multiple streams. I‘d imagine iperf is available as an app. I’d be curious to see the throughput of a synthetic load with say 8 or 10 streams. I bet the new Pro Max would be able to hit line speed of any adapter up to 10 gig… or at least hit 6 or 8 gig. Again, theoretical speed based. The reason for this is a single speed is limited to a single processor core. If you load up multiple streams, you can take advantage of the additional cores and get higher speeds.
 
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I’d bet you’d be able to get the full 2.5 gig of your interface if you were to configure the test with multiple streams. I‘d imagine iperf is available as an app. I’d be curious to see the throughput of a synthetic load with say 8 or 10 streams. I bet the new Pro Max would be able to hit line speed of any adapter up to 10 gig… or at least hit 6 or 8 gig. Again, theoretical speed based. The reason for this is a single speed is limited to a single processor core. If you load up multiple streams, you can take advantage of the additional cores and get higher speeds.
Ookla tests Internet speeds, not intra-network. I have no easy way to test intra-network speeds.
 
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Ookla tests Internet speeds, not intra-network. I have no easy way to test intra-network speeds.
You can actually host the Ookla test locally (I compiled it and have it running on my firewall), or use iperf3. However, if you’re like me, it’s not really worth the time to set this test up. Wi-Fi is plenty fast on any iPhone over the past few generations for the vast majority of people, myself included. It’s cool though, particularly on my iPad, which I use sometimes as a ”workstation” to know that wired can work, particularly if I were to use my iPad at the data center instead of my Mac in the rare event I have to work on some equipment for my day job.
 
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Would be nice if the wired internet could be shared as hotspot.
It like would work. That’s an interesting idea. I was at a a rental house a couple months ago and couldn’t get my smoker to connect to the internet because the rental had an intranet that had to be logged in to. If what you said works, I could hook my iPad up to the Ethernet port of their router (assuming it wasn’t disabled), and share the Internet through my iPad, bypassing their intranet.
 
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