not zoom. 230mm fix.That's not what Samsung does. And their 10x is real optical zoom. No need to confuse people.
not zoom. 230mm fix.That's not what Samsung does. And their 10x is real optical zoom. No need to confuse people.
Weird for dummies only. "Tetra" means four. Four bends in a light path to make it physically shorter.As I understand Apple does use a periscope lens. They just decided to call it ""tetraprism lens" in line with their tradition to use weird proprietary terminology (super liquid retina anyone?) to pretend that they use some unique technology when in fact they use what everyone else uses (just with a lag).
It’s evident, certainly. Still, much better than the digital zoom of yore.The degradation is still evident. It certainly does not work as well as on TV crime shows, where some technician hits an "Enhance" button and a blur of pixels resolves into a license plate--or a portrait quality photo of the actor playing the crook.![]()
The iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max should't have different specs besides size and battery life! I don't want a bigger phone for the best features!
Yeah at that point wider (full frame) with lots of pixels + crop makes more sense.It’s 125mm full frame, which is basically the end of the portraiture focal lengths. Going beyond that photos of people start to get unflattering. Once you get past 200 you’re talking about sports and wildlife, neither of which a phone is useful for. And it’ll come at a massive cost to image quality.
Big zoom multipliers are for spec sheet comparisons, in the real world they’re not that useful and will come at a cost on every photo you take.
Fair points, though delivery could have been far less crass.Oh yeah it’s super easy, barely an inconvenience. Why should I believe the actual engineers when they say they needed the room of the bigger model when some rando on a web forum said they shoulda been able to do what he wanted? lol you dudes crack me up.
But like the original OIS feature which was a Plus exclusive, eventually they’ll get the miniaturization down and we’ll see it elsewhere. But this requires time and work. Always have a chuckle when non-engineers tell me things should be easy for us. Or when people fail to realize we improve techniques over time and that’s why things get better, smaller, faster.
my camcorder had 100x digital zoom. I'm not impressed.
Samsung and other phones with the extreme digital zoom just uses Ai to make up the picture. Optical is WAY better!
Honestly I was hoping for 10x optical zoom across both Pro’s or at least 5x optical on the Pro and 10x optical on the Max.Samsung has 10x optical. Apple 5x
widest angle is 13mm, tele - 120mm, so it's almost 10x of so called "zoom"It’s a great alternative to a typical Periscope camera setup … but I think it’s telling that Apple has reached their finite limit of space in the iPhone camera arrangement.
Kudo’s to Apple adding in Macro pictures that are clear without needing to add another camera. I was saying how crazy 4+ camera’s are getting on phones today. Ideally with periscope hood glass lens and this tech should be reduced down to 2!
Still I was hoping for 10x optical zoom for both and at least 5x/10x Pro/Max. Alas that’ll be next year.
I fully expect a major camera redesign next year. It’s telling Apple has reached their finite space in the iPhone models in the Pro and Pro Max.
"Real" zooms suffer from smaller aperture.I was saying how crazy 4+ camera’s are getting on phones today. Ideally with periscope hood glass lens and this tech should be reduced down to 2!
I have heard that, in the more recent iPhones, the sensor is taking multiple/continuous images that the processor is combining into a single image, and if you zoom in digitally, it puts more effort into the zoomed in area. This is something that cannot be achieved by just cropping in post - you don't have access to all those other images the phone used.Digital zoom is a waste of time that can basically be achieved by cropping in post, ...
OMG. What about wide angle zoom lenses like Tokina AT-X PRO SD 14-20mm F2?"Real" zooms suffer from smaller aperture.
So there has to be "normal" focal length fixed lens for low light.
And for ultra-wide since zoom can't reach that wide...
Maybe 2 periscopes (ultra-wide & ultra tele) in addition of one fixed normal lens would be possible, but Apple doesn't want to give that much volume and cost for cameras...
think apple are planning longer optical range for 16 pros. They aren't going to debut it with the best they can think of in one upgrade. Not the apple way.Honestly I was hoping for 10x optical zoom across both Pro’s or at least 5x optical on the Pro and 10x optical on the Max.
Huge opportunity missed unfortunately. Seems more R&D went o the action button, titanium 5 alloy, ANC during calls on iPhone itself before optical zoom.
here's a more detailed test to watch in HDIphone 15 pro max zoom test looks pretty good honestly
I really don’t understand the technicalities of camera’s so this is like speaking alien to me. As such the f stop doesn’t make sense to me why lower didn’t give less than either. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯widest angle is 13mm, tele - 120mm, so it's almost 10x of so called "zoom"
"Real" zooms suffer from smaller aperture.
So there has to be "normal" focal length fixed lens for low light.
And for ultra-wide since zoom can't reach that wide...
Maybe 2 periscopes (ultra-wide & ultra tele) in addition of one fixed normal lens would be possible, but Apple doesn't want to give that much volume and cost for cameras...