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So that price hike too by $100 for the 16 pro as well

Remember Apple not always raised the price by 100 when they doubled the ssd
We will likely see a price increase due to 256gb, 5x camera and jump to 6.3”

The 15 PRO will continue to provide good value along with being a bit smaller/lighter than the 16 PRO. Fortunately, USB-C was not delayed any further to 16.
 
The iPhone 15 Pro Max is the only iPhones to support optical zoom but not by the old fashion way . it's equivalent to a 120mm lens used on a full-frame camera. Combined with the ultrawide camera's 13mm lens, the iPhone 15 Pro Max has a maximum optical zoom range of 9.2x. People blocked in the past where you cannot have at all a full optical zoom in an 8mm thick device, physics
 
17 Pro is gonna have whatever 16 Pro has, only better, so I'll wait for the 18 Pro, but then again that 19 Pro is right around the corner...
You are right. There is always something better around the corner. Personally I upgrade every 3-4 years so I can notice a significant improvement over the previous iPhones.
 
We will likely see a price increase due to 256gb, 5x camera and jump to 6.3”

The 15 PRO will continue to provide good value along with being a bit smaller/lighter than the 16 PRO. Fortunately, USB-C was not delayed any further to 16.
exactly, the price hike is not due to the ssd...Apple from 32 to 64 and also from 64 went to 128 and not increasing the price
 
Apparently you didn’t read the article but just the headline … the 16 Pro is supposed to be 6.3“ instead of 6.1“ specifically to fit the tetraprism camera.
Forgive me for being skeptical after they did the same thing on the 12.
 
So that price hike too by $100 for the 16 pro as well

Remember Apple not always raised the price by 100 when they doubled the ssd
It has been confirmed, no price hike for the 16 Pro or Pro Max.

Pro will start with 256 GB for $1099 and Pro max will start with 512 GB at $1299..
(that's the new business model, start the base with more GB and charge "normal" prices)

you heard it heard here first ladies and gentlemen..
 
Isn't the entire purpose of the new periscope lens to make it optical, regardless of distance?
No, the periscope design only affects the focal length, not a zoom ability. A telephoto lens has a long focal length which requires a long barrel physically. In order to reduce size and length while keeping the focal length, they used a periscope design so that they can fit a telephoto lens in smartphones. Also, zoom lenses are quite complicated than you think. Adding lenses doesn't really make it as a zoom lenses.

Samsung Galaxy Ultra's telephoto lens does not have any zoom lenses instead of prime lenses. At least, it has 100~200mp large sensor to crop significantly while maintaining the quality.

Tetraprism is another way to reduce the size and length of telephoto lens by reflecting lights multiple times.
 
The iPhone 15 Pro Max is the only iPhones to support optical zoom but not by the old fashion way . it's equivalent to a 120mm lens used on a full-frame camera. Combined with the ultrawide camera's 13mm lens, the iPhone 15 Pro Max has a maximum optical zoom range of 9.2x. People blocked in the past where you cannot have at all a full optical zoom in an 8mm thick device, physics
Optical zoom does not have a “old fashion way” … it is when lenses are moved in a way that they provide a range of focal length vs fixed iPhone 15PM dies NOT have optical zoom period.
 
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The 5x is fixed focal length, not zoom at all, everything in between 1x and 5x therefor is digital, simple as that

Thank you for explaining. That makes sense.

I am the least take-a-photo guy I know but it's still good to understand the characteristics and limit of the camera.

About the only time I ever use the zoom is if I want to read a sign that is too far away for my pretty rubbish eyesight (even with corrective glasses) to make out so a 5x fixed can't do any harm there I suppose except maybe when I sometimes use it in a bar or restaurant to take a photo of the specials menu/blackboard to save me getting up to go closer to read it. I wonder if the 5x fixed zoom will mean I sometimes won't be able to fit the whole board into a single 5x frame - now that really is a first world problem if I ever heard one!
 
Optical zoom does not have a “old fashion way” … it is when lenses are moved in a way that they provide a range of focal length vs fixed iPhone 15PM dies NOT have optical zoom period.
If you view the iPhone’s 3 lenses as a single “camera system”, can’t one argue that an optical change is taking place to achieve a zoom effect?
 
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The iPhone 15 Pro Max is the only iPhones to support optical zoom but not by the old fashion way . it's equivalent to a 120mm lens used on a full-frame camera. Combined with the ultrawide camera's 13mm lens, the iPhone 15 Pro Max has a maximum optical zoom range of 9.2x. People blocked in the past where you cannot have at all a full optical zoom in an 8mm thick device, physics
Wow, that's call DIGITAL zoom. You literally explained how digital zoom works. Having multiple cameras does not really mean it's a zoom lens. Do you know how the optical zoom lens work?
 
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I'm with the masses on not really using the zoom anyway - on my 12PM it's crap!
On the 14pm the 3x is a lot better same sensor.. mostly software trickery and lens maybe. On the 14pm the 3x is really good compared to the 13 pm
 
Optical zoom does not have a “old fashion way” … it is when lenses are moved in a way that they provide a range of focal length vs fixed iPhone 15PM dies NOT have optical zoom period.
because some people hundreds years ago made that definition Optical zoom is accomplished by moving parts within a camera lens, for short term...now you can with ML and hardware lenses and multiple camera to achieve that same effect but a lower quality because,....physics one is a big professional camera and one is a tiny device like an iphone. The result is different because of the quality of the picture that is zoomed in thats all...but the quality of the picture is maintain in optical zoom compared to the digital zoom
 
Wow, that's call DIGITAL zoom. You literally explained how digital zoom works. Having multiple cameras does not really mean it's a zoom lens. Do you know how the optical zoom lens work?
i know how optical zoom works on a traditional professional camera, but its clear you dont know how an optical zoom works at a smaller scale of course because physics on a smartphone like this one
Optical zoom on a old traditional camera is bye moving the lens and magnify the picture...
 
I have been so tempted to go Pro Max since it debuted. That is my biggest back and forth every cycle. I've not yet been able to shake the idea that Pro Max will present more usability issues than solutions. And I've not yet been willing to commit to one, for a full 12 months, to find out how warranted this concerns may prove (or not). I may freaking love it. But just haven't been able to fully commit to find out. Yet.
I say go for it. I was hesitant this year.. had the 11 pro, 12 pro, 13 pro, 14 pro..

last year, I even had the 14 pro max saved to buy but then changed my mind and got the regular.

Pulled the trigger this year and got the max. I am hoping to adapt to it and love it very quickly..
 
It has been confirmed, no price hike for the 16 Pro or Pro Max.

Pro will start with 256 GB for $1099 and Pro max will start with 512 GB at $1299..
(that's the new business model, start the base with more GB and charge "normal" prices)

you heard it heard here first ladies and gentlemen..
Confirmed, eh? We got a time traveler in the house, folks.
 
i know how optical zoom works on a traditional professional camera, but its clear you dont know how an optical zoom works at a smaller scale of course because physics on a smartphone like this one
Physics does not change. Tell me, where is the optical zoom lens? Don't say 3 lenses + digital zoom. If you wanna argue about the new way to zoom in, then it still doesn't change the fact that it's not an optical zoom.
 
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Hopefully by then we at least match what Samsung and other companies have been doing for years and the tele lens goes to 240mm. Or better yet, for once, beat the competition and go to 300 or 400mm. Or just forget all that and put one camera and one lens on the thing with a 1” spad sensor and blow everyone away.
 
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Optical zoom is accomplished by moving parts within a camera lens. The glass elements inside of a zoom lens move back and forth creating different relative focal lengths. When zooming in, the focal length increases and the opposite is true when zooming out
This is your traditional camera optical zoom
 
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