iPhone 15 Pro Max's 5x Optical Zoom Lens Rumored to Expand to Both iPhone 16 Pro Models

[jz0309]

because some people hundreds years ago made that definition Optical zoom is accomplished by moving parts within a camera lens, for short term...now you can with ML and hardware lenses and multiple camera to achieve that same effect but a lower quality because,....physics one is a big professional camera and one is a tiny device like an iphone. The result is different because of the quality of the picture that is zoomed in thats all...but the quality of the picture is maintain in optical zoom compared to the digital zoom

So you admit it yourself that it is digital by whatever means…

 

[TonyC28]

You still need to crop or digital zoom for all focal lengths except for fixed lenses. Having 3 lenses is only mean you have 3 cameras, that's all.

True. There’s obviously some marketing going on here. So we’d agree there is some optical zooming going on, but only at one or two specific points, everything else is digital zooming?

 

[sunny5]

Hopefully by then we at least match what Samsung and other companies have been doing for years and the tele lens goes to 240mm. Or better yet, for once, beat the competition and go to 300 or 400mm. Or just forget all that and put one camera and one lens on the thing with a 1” spad sensor and blow everyone away.

Samsung already did that with 100 or 200mp sensor to do all things including digital zoom.

 

[MayaUser]

Physics does not change. Tell me, where is the optical zoom lens? Don't say 3 lenses + digital zoom. If you wanna argue about the new way to zoom in, then it still doesn't change the fact that it's not an optical zoom.

its a combo about lenses+ML and this new tech for 15 pro max that make the distance further
you dont want to understand that optical zoom is just an old definition for profesinoals cameras and not for digital smartphones that have AI and multiple cameras lenses and now a different tech for forwarding the space between
The end result matters nothing more...the rest are words that are invented by someone long time ago, like every other words
Have a nice day

 

[Cloudyskies22]

It has been confirmed, no price hike for the 16 Pro or Pro Max.

Pro will start with 256 GB for $1099 and Pro max will start with 512 GB at $1299..
(that's the new business model, start the base with more GB and charge "normal" prices)

you heard it heard here first ladies and gentlemen..

Nope, you’re right that the 16 Pro will start at 256GB for $1099, but the Pro Max will remain at 256GB for $1199.

My assertion? Apple is looking at introducing a third line of iPhones in the next year or 2.

iPhone/iPhone Plus
iPhone Pro/iPhone Pro Max
iPhone Ultra/iPhone Ultra Max

iPhone is the 1 device that people will pay a premium for now matter what. Look at the evidence we have presently: the iPhone Pro Max is selling greater than it ever has relative to the others. This is proof that people are will to spend exorbitant money for the most feature-rich phone.

This leads me to believe Apple will introduce the third line: iPhone Ultra which will include exceedingly expensive and cutting edge tech that is very early and therefore lower yield. For example, the iPhone Ultra could get microOLED displays 2 years before the iPhone Pro. It could get another camera, even faster screen refresh, brightness, etc.

Moreover, Apple just released the A17 Pro for the iPhone 15 Pro.

How about A18, A18 Pro, A18 Ultra? Remember, there is precedence for this in their M-series Chips as well.

 

[jcshas]

It would have been nice to have the same camera features across the iPhone Pro’s, but not a deal breaker for me. The Max is just too large of a phone for me.

 

[sunny5]

True. There’s obviously some marketing going on here. So we’d agree there is some optical zooming going on, but only at one or two specific points, everything else is digital zooming?

Yes. That's how it works and yet Apple claimed it as OPTICAL ZOOM which is a joke.

 

[lazyrighteye]

I say go for it. I was hesitant this year.. had the 11 pro, 12 pro, 13 pro, 14 pro..

last year, I even had the 14 pro max saved to buy but then changed my mind and got the regular.

Pulled the trigger this year and got the max. I am hoping to adapt to it and love it very quickly..

That's about the same boat I'v been in. Even had the 14 Pro Max loaded, but called an audible at go time and reverted back to 14 Pro. Anyway, didn't consider the Pro Max very long this year. But we'll see abut the 16. 😜

I'd love to hear back from you about your 15 Pro Max experience at some point. Enjoy!

 

[sunny5]

its a combo about lenses+ML and this new tech for 15 pro max that make the distance further
But its clear like you like to troll and argue like in the arm Silicon sections you do it here or you dont want to understand that optical zoom is just an old definition for profesinoals cameras and not for digital smartphones that have AI and multiple cameras lenses and now a different tech for forwarding the space between

LOL, I'm a professional photographer and I know how cameras and lenses work. You only explaining how digital zoom works no matter if it's an old fashion way or not. If you wanna argue about using 3 lenses + digital zoom is a new optical zoom, then I highly doubt about what you are doing because that's still a digital zoom, not optical zoom. Having multiple lens in one camera still didn't consider as an optical zoom a while ago.

Also, if it's an optical zoom, how come iPhone has multiple lenses when a zoom lens can cover all focal lengths? This already disapprove your theory about your claim.

Let me clear about this: using 2~3 prime lenses + digital zoom is NOT an optical zoom. It's still a digital zoom no matter how you explain as an old fashion way or not because it does not zoom in and out optically.

 

[phillypharm]

I guess with the slight size decrease of the 15 Pro, this is the closest we’ll get to an iPhone mini with modern tech lol. Makes my upgrade from the XR to the 15 Pro easier now if the 16 is going to upsize again.

 

[smulji]

Nope, you’re right that the 16 Pro will start at 256GB for $1099, but the Pro Max will remain at 256GB for $1199.

My assertion? Apple is looking at introducing a third line of iPhones in the next year or 2.

iPhone/iPhone Plus
iPhone Pro/iPhone Pro Max
iPhone Ultra/iPhone Ultra Max

iPhone is the 1 device that people will pay a premium for now matter what. Look at the evidence we have presently: the iPhone Pro Max is selling greater than it ever has relative to the others. This is proof that people are will to spend exorbitant money for the most feature-rich phone.

This leads me to believe Apple will introduce the third line: iPhone Ultra which will include exceedingly expensive and cutting edge tech that is very early and therefore lower yield. For example, the iPhone Ultra could get microOLED displays 2 years before the iPhone Pro. It could get another camera, even faster screen refresh, brightness, etc.

Moreover, Apple just released the A17 Pro for the iPhone 15 Pro.

How about A18, A18 Pro, A18 Ultra? Remember, there is precedence for this in their M-series Chips as well.

The only way an iPhone Ultra model makes sense, to me, is if Apple introduces a foldable iPhone.

 

[CatalinApple]

This is why I might actually upgrade to the 15 Pro. It looks like this will be a) the last relatively compact Pro model and b) the last Pro model with a portrait camera.

I fear the same thing as you. I haven't ordered the iPhone 15 Pro yet because I am happy with my iPhone 13 Pro but I have a feeling that I will regret my decision next year when Apple will introduce the new iPhones at their annual Apple event. I wish they could do something without making the iPhone taller.

 

[Bigkool2inSC]

Pfft. My iPhone 11 has camera zoom capabilities.

Unfortunately, it involves me having to walk closer to the object I'm photographing, but it works well and doesn't consume additional battery.

and you get to burn a couple of extra calories while "zooming" in..

 

[TonyC28]

Yes. That's how it works and yet Apple claimed it as OPTICAL ZOOM which is a joke.

This is how it looks on the site now. I don’t find this to be misleading.

 

[sunny5]

This is how it looks on the site now. I don’t find this to be misleading.
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And you are being fooled by Apple. .5x, 1x, and 5x are prime lenses and 2x is a digital zoom. If it's an optical zoom lens, then the focal length suppose to be 24-120mm or 13-120mm instead of making 4 options. Having multiple cameras or lenses is not zoom at all and if you know how the optical zoom lens works, you will know that info is totally misleading.

 

[waquzy]

We will likely see a price increase due to 256gb, 5x camera and jump to 6.3”

The 15 PRO will continue to provide good value along with being a bit smaller/lighter than the 16 PRO. Fortunately, USB-C was not delayed any further to 16.

No one really cares about the USB-C, it’s irrelevant

 

[msackey]

Rumors already about the 16 series of iPhone? 😆

That said, why are Android phones able to have so much higher optical zooms than iPhones thus far? Has an article been written to compare and explain?

 

[waquzy]

Rumors already about the 16 series of iPhone? 😆

That said, why are Android phones able to have so much higher optical zooms than iPhones thus far? Has an article been written to compare and explain?

That’s because the masses don’t care about the optical zoom, hardly anyone uses it, apart from the geeks.

 

[robbyclark]

I heard the iPhone 16 will also have a new version of iOS....there has to be another non-news article here somewhere?

 

[msackey]

That’s because the masses don’t care about the optical zoom, hardly anyone uses it, apart from the geeks.

Seriously? Hmmm...!?

Optical zoom makes capturing things easy when they are far away. I find it hard to think this is more of a geeky feature than not.

 

[Mitsjke]

I guess Apple is still trying to figure out if people would pay $6.000 for a foldable display. We will see it somewhere in the iPhone 25.

 

[waquzy]

Seriously? Hmmm...!?

Optical zoom makes capturing things easy when they are far away. I find it hard to think this is more of a geeky feature than not.

No one uses it, I’ve only ever used it twice in 10+ years.

 

[jz0309]

LOL, I'm a professional photographer and I know how cameras and lenses work. You only explaining how digital zoom works no matter if it's an old fashion way or not. If you wanna argue about using 3 lenses + digital zoom is a new optical zoom, then I highly doubt about what you are doing because that's still a digital zoom, not optical zoom. Having multiple lens in one camera still didn't consider as an optical zoom a while ago.

Also, if it's an optical zoom, how come iPhone has multiple lenses when a zoom lens can cover all focal lengths? This already disapprove your theory about your claim.

Let me clear about this: using 2~3 prime lenses + digital zoom is NOT an optical zoom. It's still a digital zoom no matter how you explain as an old fashion way or not because it does not zoom in and out optically.

Except you forget that in the new world of AI/ML and cropping us “old fashioned” people have to learn that established terms/nomenclature does not mean anything anymore… you and I are at fault, not Apple and Samsung marketing /s

 

[msackey]

No one uses it, I’ve only ever used it twice in 10+ years.

Oh ok. Well, I guess since I do use optical zoom quite a bit, I must be "no one".

"Hello everybody! I'm nobody! Nice to meet you."

👻

 

[TonyC28]

And you are being fooled by Apple. .5x, 1x, and 5x are prime lenses and 2x is a digital zoom. If it's an optical zoom lens, then the focal length suppose to be 24-120mm or 13-120mm instead of making 4 options. Having multiple cameras or lenses is not zoom at all and if you know how the optical zoom lens works, you will know that info is totally misleading.

Ehh, maybe you’re right. In any event, the Max is too big for me.