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Meanwhile, Android users get 60.
I know Apple does not want to play catchup, but now they are just falling behind industry standards.
I hate it.
It might be that the higher speed forces faster battery degradation.
Personally, since I trade in every year, I dont mind this.
However, if I were apple and given all the battery gate scandals and lawsuits- I dont blame them,
 
Just use a power brick not capable of fast charging.
That's not actually the point, the point is the W rating is useless and functional outcomes matter more, and that's what I am getting at. At 15W (not fast charging), the iPhone is still thermally throttling charge rates to protect battery life.

The point is I'd rather Apple actually get the actual feature/function right than specs, I don't want the damn thing throttling at 15W, but it does, because the thermals are a disaster in the 14.
 
Yeah, why would anybody buy an iPhone when Android is so vastly superior? Oh wait, there's almost 1.5 billion iPhones out there now so somebody is buying them I guess.
The iPhone has less than 30% worldwide market share so majority of people do decide to get an Android phone. My girlfriend's Xiaomi 12s Pro came with a 120W charger while my iPhone Pro Max 12 cannot even do 1/4 of that. The Xiaomi is objectively better in this regard and she did care about this aspect. I have to use a Redmi phone as a secondary phone since Apple blocks me from installing some apps I need but not available in my local app store (developer's decision, but the fact I was able to fix the issue on my Android phone while Apple blocked me).
 
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I think they're creating an environment for the Redmi owner to replace their phones faster.

Seeming they're a smaller player their branding can take a hit in quality and reliability.
They replace the battery, not the phone...
 
The iPhone has less than 30% worldwide market share so majority of people do decide to get an Android phone. My girlfriend's Xiaomi 12s Pro came with a 120W charger while my iPhone Pro Max 12 cannot even do 1/4 of that. The Xiaomi is objectively better in this regard and she did care about this aspect. I have to use a Redmi phone as a secondary phone since Apple blocks me from installing some apps I need but not available in my local app store (developer's decision, but the fact I was able to fix the issue on my Android phone while Apple blocked me).
Other phone manufacturers offer cheap phones for those who want to go on their $.35/minute plan and only want to pay $150 for their phone outright. Apple does not offer anything like that. It should be expected that a single manufacturer that doesn't sell cheap phones outright has less than 30% of the market share.
 
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this statement is false, i’ve been using my day 1 , 14 pro max with anker 150w charger literally every day. and my battery health is 100%

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I have a day 1 14 Pro and use MagSafe almost every time and my battery health is at 88% lol. If anything I think MagSafe is bad for batteries, perhaps because of the additional energy lost to heat?

I have no freaking idea how you have 100% left. Do you not use your phone much? I’m switching to 15 Pro Max so maybe the additional capacity makes it less likely to dip low enough to put strain on the battery?
 

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I care less about W rating on charging and more about effective results. If at 27W the damn thing throttles (which mine does quite a bit, and I live in a relatively cool climate, and even go so far as to throw the phone on an ice pack when charging, esp when wireless charging, about the only way to get it to charge at max the whole charging curve), I really don't actually want the 35W charging (because that's just spec sheet fun), I want the thermals to improve to maximize the 27W output first along the whole charging curve without having to ensure it's on an ice pack or in a very, very cold room shielded from all possible sources of light/heat.

Hell, take my 27W away but give me 15W but with thermals that keep the throttling at bay.

Hopefully Ti's (on paper) heat dissipation advantage over SS gets us something here (although the internals remain Al....the frame/Ti join does seem to be non-fastener related and is friction welded it appears, which also in theory is good for thermal conductivity).

Higher wattage = more heat.

By throttling, are you referring to the "Optimized Battery Charging" feature? If so, you can turn it off to charge to 100% every time.
 
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Meanwhile, Android users get 60.
I know Apple does not want to play catchup, but now they are just falling behind industry standards.
I hate it.
Mine does 120watt. 0-100 in 25 mins and it's not even warm when charging. It's hard to go back to slower charging now.
 
Yeah, why would anybody buy an iPhone when Android is so vastly superior? Oh wait, there's almost 1.5 billion iPhones out there now so somebody is buying them I guess.

What kind of reversed logic is that? You cannot ask for improvements for a product you like, because what?
Even if I were to follow your flawed logic, Android has more than a 70% market share, so even by that standard, you failed to prove anything.
 
Honestly 20W is already enough for me, especially since I usually charge my 13 wirelessly at 7watts (which helped keeping my battery to the max capacity for 2 years).
 
How does the (slightly) smaller battery capacity of the pro series effect daily usage after all?
 
this statement is false, i’ve been using my day 1 , 14 pro max with anker 150w charger literally every day. and my battery health is 100%

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*with a 20w-capable cable.

Also 150w is the total, shared wattage of the 4 different ports your charger have.
It would deliver 22,5w max if plugged in the usb-a port.
100w max if plugged in the usb-c port and no other device plugged at the same time.
And your phone would just draw 27w anyway so…
 
Can you explain to be how you did this? I used a 30 W charger on my iPhone
15 pro and I have 87%.
I have a simple question and how do you have a iPhone 15 Pro? These phones are not released to consumers yet. I am reading between the lines that you have a iPhone 14 Pro. I also have a introductory iPhone 14 Pro and my battery is still at 100% and that is the first iPhone I have had that is still at 100%. I don’t know about my early iPhones has the 3 GS through the 7 I never paid any attention to the battery as long as I could go all day I ignored it.
 
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