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iPhone 15 Pro Models Reportedly Max Out at 27W Charging Speeds Despite 35W Rumor
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Probably a typo?
Anyway - I suspect that the battery health and how well it handles fast charging also depends on what else you have running and what kind of cover you have. Sometimes mine (12 mini) get really hot when charging and it will pause charging. Not charging in direct sunlight of course and it’s at around 22C.
Close apps in background and removing the cover will help on this. But I’m pretty sure when the phone reaches the “I’m too hot to charge”, the battery health has taken a hit. Maybe it will also take a hit before that 🤷♂️
But if you do fast charging without an insulating cover and power hungry apps running in the background it might be more gentle on the battery health? Just a theory
By 2027 the iPhone 19 will have a user replaceable battery.
If a separate battery charger ever comes out we could 5W slow charge the spare while we use iPhone & other devices.
Only fast charging in the car during emergencies that we need 0-50% within 30 mins.
27w I can run my MacBook off. It’s plenty. I honestly don’t want more. These insane numbers some android phones have are flat out scary. It’s thermal runaway just waiting to happen.
It’s easier for people to understand I guess. If a phone draws more power during charging it should charge faster.
It’s more likely that one of two things happened:
1) Apple decided to enable the 35W Fast Charging function in a future update
2) Apple decided to keep the wattage the same due to heating and battery performance concerns they couldn’t mitigate in the design
1) Apple decided to enable the 35W Fast Charging function in a future update
2) Apple decided to keep the wattage the same due to heating and battery performance concerns they couldn’t mitigate in the design
I’d like to see an update of this
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Back then, anything over 18W gave essentially the same performance. I wouldn’t be surprised if there was the same curves today, just at a higher level.
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Yes, that's exactly my the first part of my point, I don't care about more W rating because it creates more heat, and until AAPL improves the thermals, I don't care about "35W" on the spec sheet because it's just going to move at a much lower rate after the first 2 min if it's not literally on an ice pack.
And, yes, you're technically correct that you can turn off throttling ("Optimized Battery Charging" is PR-speak for "throttling", in fact, a class action suit decided that one....), but, great, now I doing that at what cost, rapidly accelerating the degradation of my battery?
Get the thermals right and you don't put me in this position is my point. It seems that the 15 Pro Max may finally actually do that to some point with the improved thermal performance of Ti over SS, but glass is more of an insulator than a conductor, but vanity purposes/an aesthetic means we have glass backs on these phones, which could be a GREAT increased surface area for heat dissipation, instead, well, we have an *insulator* over a huge area...
And, yes, you're technically correct that you can turn off throttling ("Optimized Battery Charging" is PR-speak for "throttling", in fact, a class action suit decided that one....), but, great, now I doing that at what cost, rapidly accelerating the degradation of my battery?
Get the thermals right and you don't put me in this position is my point. It seems that the 15 Pro Max may finally actually do that to some point with the improved thermal performance of Ti over SS, but glass is more of an insulator than a conductor, but vanity purposes/an aesthetic means we have glass backs on these phones, which could be a GREAT increased surface area for heat dissipation, instead, well, we have an *insulator* over a huge area...
the point of my comment was that the person was claiming 27w fast charging made battery have problems and supposedly everyone knows about it. my comment makes the claim that i get unthrottled charging, using as many watts the phone can draw and i’ve had zero degradation. my test proves 27w fast charging does not degrade my battery. just updated to ios 17 and still 100% day 1 14 pro max .. i’ll provide a 10 day use picture also showing i use my phone and it doesn’t just sit idle all day.
I thought the glass back was necessitated for wireless charging (glass being more suitable than metal).
I've never been a fan of the glass back.
Thanks for your reply. Mentioning "150w" was misleading hence my previous post.
You’re charging at the maximum possible wattage and suffered from no battery degradation. This is great (while I think there’s a part of luck too in the sense that you probably have a better than usual battery).
Do you avoid going under 20%?
This would, to me, be the first cause of capacity drop, over than heating while charging since the iPhone adapts it’s charging speed according to it’s temperature so there is no serious overheating that would degrade the battery
PS: disallow Instagram’s background refresh for even more juice per charge 😜
i don’t use background refresh, so that’s on screen use. and no i don’t baby the battery in any special way, i charge when i think i might leave the house for any extended period of time , i will let it charge to 100% and stay connected while i sleep. i wasn’t trying to mislead by saying 150w, anyone who follows iphone tech would know the max draw on the phone is around 27w, the point of mentioning 150 is because most non tech enthusiasts would consider 20w “fast charging” but in my eyes 27w would be true fast charge. by saying 150 im insinuating that the only bottle neck in charging is the phone and not the adapter or cable. i enjoy max speed all the time .
I just withdrew my reservation for the 15 Pro Max. My 14 Pro Max charges too slowly comparing to any of my Android counterparts. I cannot believe it still peaks at 27W. And like some of you have said. It throttles while charging. It gets so hot that I would have to take the case off and rest it on a cool surface while charging. Otherwise the screen dims and gets too hot. Sometimes I have to put it in the fridge after charging and using simultaneously. Come on Apple. USBC is much welcomed. It’s late. But why is fast charging still not a thing? How many of us would use it to make a film? I will wait for real world tests to conclude.
I would not do that. The MagSafe charges hot. Even after a full charge. It remains warm. Battery doesn’t like to get hot and degrades.Isn't 27W charging still pretty fast though?
Most of the time I just lay my phone down on a slow, basic Qi charger while I'm asleep. It may take 3 hours to charge, it may take 7. It doesn't matter because it'll be done by the time I wake up
For those who have not used a phone with fast charging (no. iPhone 14 pro max is not fast). Or those who are still using a USBA to lightning cable. This thread is not relevant to you.
My Samsung fold 4 charges much faster than my 14 pro max and the fold 4 isn’t even considered a fast charging phone. No the battery hasn’t degraded. It hasn’t exploded. 2023 is the year where fast charging hurts the battery theory should die.
Apple you really have to step up your game.
My Samsung fold 4 charges much faster than my 14 pro max and the fold 4 isn’t even considered a fast charging phone. No the battery hasn’t degraded. It hasn’t exploded. 2023 is the year where fast charging hurts the battery theory should die.
Apple you really have to step up your game.
I do not use wireless charging as it uses more waste heat and waste energy than doing 5-12W wired slow charging.
Wireless charging is a novel "in the future" way of recharging. I see it as generating more ewaste as it eskews the old way of doing things.
Same here. Wireless is really great for AirPods and other small battery capacity devices. There are two scenarios that I would use MagSafe. It’s while driving, MagSafe is wonderfully designed for that purpose. The second would be a damaged or wet charging port. So I can still charge it with MagSafe. Never happened tho.
Wireless charging is also a great backup to recharging a device.
Similar to how backing up data via Lighting or USB-C 10Gbps is preferred over WiFi.
The iPhone's port can get damaged over time.
? Maybe you're responding to the wrong message. I was posting about how I use a really slow Qi charger, vs. a high-wattage MagSafe.
MUCH faster? Not according to iPhone Arena.
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the iPhone 14 Pro Max
Yet another iPhone 14 Pro Max vs iPhone 14 specs gap gets confirmed
The iPhone 14 maxes out at 25W.
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10 minutes difference is not THAT much faster (and the trickle charge from 99% to 100% is to preserve battery). And they both reach 50% in 25-35 minutes. The only way it could be MUCH faster is if you’re using a weaker charger for the iPhone?
They were charging it wrong. A Reality Distortion Field is required to get that much of a difference.