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I don’t care how many times they go back and forth on this rumor.

It’s too boring to care about in the first place.

I don’t care how advanced they are. It’s still a really insignificant change even compared to the somewhat lackluster Dynamic Island.

Boring, boring, boring buttons.
 
The same crying i hear around cars that swap AC buttons into a touch screen buttons...and i have to say...i use to change something to the AC twice per year...i mean come on.... Or those people who are complaining are having manual AC...or they dont have a car
Do you live in California? Often times I start my commute with the heat on and it’s in AC halfway through the drive.
 
„Apple has decided to make a last minute design update to the iPhone“

Anyone with a basic understanding of how Apple operates would never come to this conclusion. As usual they have multiple design/manufacturing options and at some well defined deadline just have to decide what the next iPhone will be. There is no last minute design update, just external speculation around what the final design/manufacturing choice will be. The analyst and rumors are the confusing part, not Apple.
 
I'm kind of conflicted about the mute switch...

One on hand, it works great and can't be accidentally turned on or off easily.

On the other hand, I'd like to be able to tell Siri to set to vibrate only- which you can't do with a hardware switch.

I'm not worried about accidental muting because I'm pretty sure Apple can program it to recognize accidental presses pretty easily.
What makes you think apple can ‘easily’ program anything these days? Their software is rubbish and has been for several years. Bugs over bugs, often left unchecked for months or more (see the HomeKit debacle). I’d rather have a mechanical switch, that is definitely more reliable.
 
I don't like the volume "rocker" idea and hope they keep those buttons separated for years to come.
 
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this has been one of the most confusing rumor cycles of recent memory…I'm gonna go on a limb and not trust anything and just wait till the September event.

even then, I cannot see the market for anyone who has a 12 or newer—titanium bezels and a periscope lens (the latter naturally limited to the Pro!) are the "best" features I can think of (thinner bezels, especially if they're curved, aren't a sell for me—the 4 is my favorite pre-X design), and the Action button feels like a sly Apple Watch upsell—"just get an AW, keep your phone on mute at all times, and harness the power of a multi-functioning button!"

hopefully they're smart enough to show ring/silent status directly in the DI. doesn't change that it's one of those tiny, aggravating changes that makes little-to-no sense.

ya local Apple simp is none-too-pleased 😆
 
Regarding the mute button I feel like there's two groups here. Those that use a case and those that don't.

Out of a case the current switch is fantastic. Reliable and unlikely to accidentally be triggered but also easy to use. Very easy to identify position including blindly checking the position without looking at the phone at all as you have easy access to the switch.

Then there are the case users that need to jam their finger into a small gap to toggle the switch. They can't blindly feel its position since they can barely reach it even when looking at it. They're going to have to visually check the switch position if they're unsure so any mute indicator could just as easily be on the display. They also aren't going to accidentally hit a button if the phone changes to that as the case adds a buffer so unintentional presses aren't a huge concern.

I might be generalising a bit and not all cases are equal, but it seems to me there is tradeoffs and that cases impact on ones ability to easily use the switch is a big factor in whether a button or toggle will be better.

Personally I'd welcome a change to a button, but hope that unintentional presses are well handled by whatever Apple puts in place. Also would like support for remapping the function from mute to something else for people that rarely ever disable mute anyway.
 
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My 2 cents not that it matters. I like the Mute switch we have now and do not want it changed. For no other reason than I prefer it this way. Seems to me Apple is more about taking things away lately than adding anything I’d ever want. Change just for change sake adds nothing.
 
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Regarding the mute button I feel like there's two groups here. Those that use a case and those that don't.

Out of a case the current switch is fantastic. Reliable and unlikely to accidentally be triggered but also easy to use. Very easy to identify position including blindly checking the position without looking at the phone at all as you have easy access to the switch.

Then there are the case users that need to jam their finger into a small gap to toggle the switch. They can't blindly feel its position since they can barely reach it even when looking at it. They're going to have to visually check the switch position if they're unsure so any mute indicator could just as easily be on the display. They also aren't going to accidentally hit a button if the phone changes to that as the case adds a buffer so unintentional presses aren't a huge concern.

I might be generalising a bit and not all cases are equal, but it seems to me there is tradeoffs and that cases impact on ones ability to easily use the switch is a big factor in whether a button or toggle will be better.

Personally I'd welcome a change to a button, but hope that unintentional presses are well handled by whatever Apple puts in place. Also would like support for remapping the function from mute to something else for people that rarely ever disable mute anyway.

I agree. The current mute switch is almost unusable with a case (even a simple/thin one). And the vast majority of people use a case, so the button makes sense as it will resolve the problem for those people.

I also really don't understand the people who keep complaining that they won't be able to tell by feel what the mode is, or they'll accidentally change it in their pocket. Obviously Apple is well aware of this and is why they've used a switch for so long, so they will clearly come up with a design that addresses those concerns.
 
I use the switch button without even looking at it and I can realize if my phone is muted or not in the cinema or in bed or in a meeting. Now I will have to see a screen indicator to know if it is muted.or not. Clever...
Cars had touch sensitive controls for radio and they looked very Futuristic and nice, but they are a pain to use and require a lot of attention to use. Knobs, buttons and switches have their place, as well as touch sensitive controls. The mute switch is an example of "perfection". Don't destroy it!
 
I think we’re going to end up with a MacBook Pro situation. They will take away features for several years then bring them back after years of complaints.
 
I think we’re going to end up with a MacBook Pro situation. They will take away features for several years then bring them back after years of complaints.
and pat themselves on the back that it's a huge leap forward.
Like the keyboard on my 2023 MBP 15 is any better than my 2011 MBP... nope.
(although I dumped water on it this morning and all appears.. okay)
 
Pfff.. this is exhausting… unified button… dual buttons... unified button…
if only I would receive money every time I read a story like this…
 
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Apple has decided to make a last minute design update to the iPhone 15 Pro and iPhone 15 Pro Max, and the two devices will not feature the unified volume button that has been rumored for the last several weeks, according to Unknownz21. Instead, the iPhone 15 Pro models will have a two-button design for the volume module, which will look similar to the two-button design on the iPhone 14 Pro models.

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While Apple is planning to revert back to two buttons instead of the planned unified volume button, there will still be a change to the mute switch. Rather than a switch, Apple will use a physical button. Internally, this button has been referred to as the "ringer button" or the "action button," and rumors have suggested that it could be a customizable button that is similar to the Apple Watch Ultra Action button.

Up until earlier this week, Apple was still working on a unified, solid-state volume button that offered haptic feedback rather than a physical button mechanism. Apple abandoned the solid-state button design on Tuesday, and Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo says the change was due to "unresolved technical issues."

At the time, Kuo said that Apple would revert back to a "traditional physical button design," but it was not clear if Apple would continue to use the unified button that it had designed or if the company would swap back to a two-button design. Unknownz21's sources today learned that Apple will opt to revert to two buttons, delaying the unified button design until the iPhone 16 Pro.

Earlier today, MacRumors shared renders of what the iPhone 15 Pro models would have looked like with the unified volume button design. This is the design that Apple planned on using for most of the iPhone 15 Pro development period, and it is just this week that the change was made to shift back to the old design.

Unfortunately, we were working on these renders before we got the news about the solid-state button change, and we did not hear about Apple's revised plans for the buttons until after the renders were published. The renders we shared are now representative of the solid-state button design that Apple planned to use for the iPhone 15 Pro, which will not be the final design.

The renders offer a look at what the design might have been had Apple stuck with solid-state technology, and they feature the button design that Apple is likely to adopt for the iPhone 16 Pro models. Though delayed for now, Apple is continuing to work on haptic buttons, and the company is expected to implement the technology in next year's Pro iPhone models.

Apple will use standard mechanical buttons for both the iPhone 15 and iPhone 15 Pro models, but as mentioned before, the mute button that is in the renders remains accurate. Apple is expected to use a mute button instead of a mute switch for the iPhone 15 Pro lineup. These design changes are able to be made because the devices are still in the Engineering Validation Test stage and have not reached final production.

Apple did create some iPhone 15 Pro models that have solid-state buttons and the volume button design that we shared, and these will be used internally for testing to ensure the technology is ready for the iPhone 16 lineup.

Renders, case makers' dummies, CADs, and other leaked information that has depicted a unified volume button is now out of date due to Apple's late design shift. Late stage design changes are unusual for Apple, but do happen when there are issues with a feature that can't be worked out in time for launch.

The AirPower, for example, was nixed entirely after Apple could not get it to work as intended. Back in 2011, there were widespread rumors of a teardrop design for the iPhone 5 that did not pan out after Apple went with a different design, and with the third-generation iPod touch, Apple added a camera during the design stages and then removed it from the final product.

There are a number of new features still rumored for the iPhone 15 Pro models, such as a titanium frame, a faster A17 chip, periscope lens technology (iPhone 15 Pro Max only), thinner display bezels, and a USB-C port instead of a Lightning port.

Article Link: iPhone 15 Pro Now Expected to Feature Two-Button Design for Volume, Mute Switch Still Replaced by Button







This is so stupid it hurts.

Replacing a hardware switch that does works perfectly and tells you if the function is active or not even without watching it just to reduce production costs, moreover on a "premium" product.

This "innovation" will make millions of phones ring in unappropriate situations. Great job!
 
If something works fine, let's just change it and make it worst, Apple.

Just like happened with the the sleep7wake button: when it was on the top of the phone it was impossible to activate it without intention. No, let's put it on the side, so whe you want to rise or decrease the volume with one hand you're 99% taking a unwanted screenshot.
 
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